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FoghornDeadhorn · 05-09-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fog

All of the battleships are fine. Well, besides the Maelstrom, Rokh, Hyperion, and Abaddon, if we're going there.

Fixed.

Mist · 05-09-2007, 08:14 PM

I dunno, the Hyperion is not as bad as it looks. It has a nice tank and a huge capacitor.

Khorum · 05-09-2007, 08:16 PM

Yeah after the nanoship nerf the BS's are a little closer to sanity. The phoon must've taken a bigger hit though, I haven't seen a reduction in Domi numbers (been up since those empire heists actually, and those WERE nanodomis) but I haven't seen many phoons since the nerf.

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Originally Posted by Mist

I dunno, the Hyperion is not as bad as it looks. It has a nice tank and a huge capacitor.

The only good thing about the Hyperion is its looks.

Fog · 05-09-2007, 08:19 PM

That ship looks so goddamn cool it could have 500 armor and no turret hardpoints and people would still fly it.

Mist · 05-09-2007, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Khorum

Yeah after the nanoship nerf the BS's are a little closer to sanity. The phoon must've taken a bigger hit though, I haven't seen a reduction in Domi numbers (been up since those empire heists actually, and those WERE nanodomis) but I haven't seen many phoons since the nerf.

The only good thing about the Hyperion is its looks.

I mean not as bad as the stats look. I've heard of people flying them fairly successfully.

Dildo Faggins · 05-09-2007, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fog

That ship looks so goddamn cool it could have 500 armor and no turret hardpoints and people would still fly it.

Ive considered crosstraining to gallente to fly a hyperion. It is a nice looking ship. It does fine in fleet engagements too, so its not entirely useless, but its extra price kills the fun for a lot of people.

Tolanin · 05-09-2007, 08:32 PM

hyperion is a missioning ship for everyone who didnt realize that the domi is better at it.

NolwenSolRo · 05-09-2007, 09:39 PM

I agree on their being problems w/ the teir 3's for fleet combat:

Maelstrom: Little more dmg than a Tempest. Slightly better tank. Too f'in expensive. (+ looks IMO) Tempest still better overall IMO.

Rohk: Woot I can hit at 250km like pre rev! Ah shit. I can't oudamage a rail Dominix

Bonus for being the only real fleet option for Caldari.

Abbadon: Gotta use a cap booster and rigs to fire for any sustained amount of time. Sucks when other amarr fleet ships don't need to use one and can carry loot / useful things like spare ammo for other ppl etc.

Hyperion: Not bad at all. Megathron's just better at it and cheaper.

Hal2005 · 05-10-2007, 01:26 AM

FT.com / Home UK / UK - Gamers hone hypercapitalist skills online

It's really interesting when you realize the appeal of this game.

Vatoreus · 05-10-2007, 01:54 AM

I wonder, if you could use running a major corporation on EVE on a resume...

consensus probably says no.

Tirinal · 05-10-2007, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hal2005

FT.com / Home UK / UK - Gamers hone hypercapitalist skills online

It's really interesting when you realize the appeal of this game.

Well, at least it breaks the trend of stories about Second Life sheltering pedophiles.

But yeah, playing (and distorting) the market can be vast amounts of fun. It's very probably the only part of EvE pve that doesn't blow chunks. When I was but a wee Caldari lad with 150k ISK and <2m SP to my name, I decided I would rather take my own life with a wheat thresher than shoot explodey pellets at another gerbil-thing for bounty money. So I trained Industrial I, parked myself in Jita and fired up Excel.

By two months' time I had made several hundred million, lost twice that amount on speculation, had filled countless spreadsheets with inane number scribbling, and had wasted many a paid hour at work. It was glorious. Everything interconnected, every player wired to a central node, shadowy digits chasing each other across dark corners of the universe and an entire world in the cusp of your hand.

(Totally not a geek.)

Saban · 05-10-2007, 02:14 AM

Im starting up a production corp on my alt and people keep telling me theres no money in capital ship construction.

Trying to figure out what the hell people are doing for money, at least the people who dont have fancy T2 bpos.

Manticore · 05-10-2007, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tolanin

I dont think the domi is any better than the scorp as a T1 BS, they just do totally different things... fact that domi is decent in missions and a good solo pwnmobile is made up for by the fact that its a terrible fleet ship.

you can set up a dominix for various tasks and shine at it, a thing you can't do with a scorpion other than fit it as one mean mother fucking ECM platform or as a baitship tanked to hell

Vorph · 05-10-2007, 07:55 AM

Another question for people who do Covert Ops-y shit (exploration mainly, I don't really want to fight with it at all as I will be rigging it and loading it up with T2 stuff I will probably not be able to afford to lose):

I was thinking yesterday that if I go down the Gallente path, I might be best off taking their Frigates to V and using a Taranis for my interceptor. But that would mean that I'd have to use a Helios rather than a Cheetah for Covert Ops in order to save a lot of training time. On paper, the Helios looks rather impressive, since it lacks the largely useless (from what I understand) third high slot and gains an extra medium. The big drawback seems to be speed on the Helios, though it seems like they can both break 2500m/s without too much trouble. So, Helios just as viable, or no?

Bizanich · 05-10-2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Saban

Im starting up a production corp on my alt and people keep telling me theres no money in capital ship construction.

Trying to figure out what the hell people are doing for money, at least the people who dont have fancy T2 bpos.

Level 4 missions.
Complexes.
Ratting in 0.0.
Exploration.
Market manipulation. A corpmate spotted a price inconsistency on a tech 1 module, selling for 80,000 isk difference in two different spots. That's not a lot individually, but when you buy/build 1000 of the said modules, it adds up when you sell...80 million if he just buys and moves them, more if he builds them. Add the fact that this is done while primarily afk....
Invention (prices have dropped a lot, but still good coin to be made).
Scamming!

05-09-2007, 08:14 PM	#1877 (permalink)
Mist Extremely Busy DPS Provider Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,375 -56 Internets	I dunno, the Hyperion is not as bad as it looks. It has a nice tank and a huge capacitor. __________________ Nyxs - Overgeared Rogue LFGuild.

05-09-2007, 09:39 PM	#1883 (permalink)
NolwenSolRo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Austin Posts: 87 +0 Internets	I agree on their being problems w/ the teir 3's for fleet combat: Maelstrom: Little more dmg than a Tempest. Slightly better tank. Too f'in expensive. (+ looks IMO) Tempest still better overall IMO. Rohk: Woot I can hit at 250km like pre rev! Ah shit. I can't oudamage a rail Dominix Bonus for being the only real fleet option for Caldari. Abbadon: Gotta use a cap booster and rigs to fire for any sustained amount of time. Sucks when other amarr fleet ships don't need to use one and can carry loot / useful things like spare ammo for other ppl etc. Hyperion: Not bad at all. Megathron's just better at it and cheaper. __________________

05-10-2007, 02:14 AM	#1887 (permalink)
Saban Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,962 +16 Internets	Im starting up a production corp on my alt and people keep telling me theres no money in capital ship construction. Trying to figure out what the hell people are doing for money, at least the people who dont have fancy T2 bpos. __________________ ] Saban - Paladin, Dark Iron Keelhaul - Everquest, FV Server.

05-10-2007, 07:55 AM	#1889 (permalink)
Vorph Never Go Full Retard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 5,623	Another question for people who do Covert Ops-y shit (exploration mainly, I don't really want to fight with it at all as I will be rigging it and loading it up with T2 stuff I will probably not be able to afford to lose): I was thinking yesterday that if I go down the Gallente path, I might be best off taking their Frigates to V and using a Taranis for my interceptor. But that would mean that I'd have to use a Helios rather than a Cheetah for Covert Ops in order to save a lot of training time. On paper, the Helios looks rather impressive, since it lacks the largely useless (from what I understand) third high slot and gains an extra medium. The big drawback seems to be speed on the Helios, though it seems like they can both break 2500m/s without too much trouble. So, Helios just as viable, or no? __________________

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05-09-2007, 08:19 PM	#1879 (permalink)
Fog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,633 +6 Internets	That ship looks so goddamn cool it could have 500 armor and no turret hardpoints and people would still fly it.

05-09-2007, 08:32 PM	#1882 (permalink)
Tolanin h8 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,867 -17 Internets	hyperion is a missioning ship for everyone who didnt realize that the domi is better at it.

05-10-2007, 01:26 AM	#1884 (permalink)
Hal2005 Investment buffer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: --- Posts: 715	FT.com / Home UK / UK - Gamers hone hypercapitalist skills online It's really interesting when you realize the appeal of this game.

05-10-2007, 01:54 AM	#1885 (permalink)
Vatoreus WAAAAAAAGH! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mt. Pleasant, TX Posts: 3,122 -4 Internets	I wonder, if you could use running a major corporation on EVE on a resume... consensus probably says no.