FoH guide to EVE Online

[Tripamang]

Originally Posted by Fog

I definitely get notifications in my log (but the log is pretty shitty for lots of reasons.)

Yea it only happens on my main, my other characters all get the notification. Theres no filtering setup, so I'm clueless as to why it happens. For the most part I don't care :P As of late I'm not flying ships that get called primary.

Most of the time when you're trying to warp it's already too late, it's pretty much how I lost my blackbird the other day. By the time I had realized I was warp scrammed I had about enough time to jam the interceptor before my ship went pop. What can ya do though?

[Fog]

Originally Posted by Tripamang

Yea it only happens on my main, my other characters all get the notification. Theres no filtering setup, so I'm clueless as to why it happens. For the most part I don't care :P As of late I'm not flying ships that get called primary.

Most of the time when you're trying to warp it's already too late, it's pretty much how I lost my blackbird the other day. By the time I had realized I was warp scrammed I had about enough time to jam the interceptor before my ship went pop. What can ya do though?

What did you think the interceptor was doing if not warp scrambling you : P

[Tripamang]

Originally Posted by Fog

What did you think the interceptor was doing if not warp scrambling you : P

A force twice our size jumped into us sitting on a gate, they called a scorpion pilot primary and were wasting away at it. I figured their lone interceptor would be scramming their primary, much to my dismay they were scramming me and when the call to warp out happened the scorpion got out and I did not :P

More or less a lack of common sense on the interceptor pilots behalf made them lose a juicy T2 fitted scorp and got to pop my T1 fitted blackbird. What can ya do though? :P

[Kazgrim]

Just got my Thorax a bit ago (a new character), and getting my skill to Drone V. What's another good drone skill to train? Someone mentioned Drone Interfacing or something like that. That a good one?

Not sure how much time you have invested in that new character but if you want to specialize in drones it may be worthwhile to start a Gallente pilot, the option for Military>Special Forces starts with 600k in Drones, in the following skills:
Drone Navigation V
Drone Sharpshooting IV
Drones V
Scout Drone Operation IV

It's probably not a worthwhile option for you since you've already trained Drones to V on your existing character and thats a decent chunk of time invested already, but you never know.

The breakdown for basic drone skills to learn:

Drones: # of drones you can control per lvl
Scout Drone Operation: Allows you to use Light (5m3) and Medium (10m3) combat drones, adds 5km/lvl to drone control range (control range is for all drones, not just lights)
Heavy Drone Operation: Allows you to use Heavy (25m3) combat drones, 5%/lvl to damage of Heavy Drones
Drone Interfacing: 20%/lvl damage/mining yield
Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing: allows you to use ewar drones (each type has its own additional skill prereqs), adds 3km/lvl to drone control range (all drones, requires Elec. Warfare IV)
Combat Drone Operation: 5%/lvl to damage for light and medium drones
Drone Sharpshooter: 5%/lvl to drone optimal range
Drone Durability: 5%/lvl to drone shield/armor/hull hit points
Drone Navigation: 5%/lvl to orbit/mwd speed

Bolded skills are what I'd consider must haves listed in the approximate order you should learn them in, though a specialist will probably want to do Drone Interfacing before Heavy's. note: Ewar drone interfacing is a ways off but the extra control range is decent enough to warrant the skill investment in the prereq for a drone specialist, even if you don't intend on using Ewar Drones.
Italicized skills are marginal upgrades to your drones, again in roughly the appropriate order. They have wider ranges for prereqs involving your own gunnery/navigation/etc skills, learn them eventually but no rush. Outside of Combat Drone Operation their use is situational anyway (and thats only useful if you are using light/med drones)

That just about covers basic drone stuff. After heavy drones comes Sentry Drones and Fighters, but by that time you'll already know what's what. Beyond Combat drones there are speciality drones for Mining, Nos, shield/armor rep, webs, and EWar (ECM, target disrupters, sensor damp, and painters) and there's skills to support those. The Tier 2 Versions of your basic combat drones require the appropriate _Racial_ Drone Specialization skill. ie T2 light drones require Drones V, Scout Drones V, racial spec I. Mediums are the same just Racial spec II. Heavy's require Drones V, Heavy Drones V, Racial Spec IV.

[FoghornDeadhorn]

....Ewar drone interfacing increases drone control range by 3km for all drones? I'll be goddamned, I never knew that.

< Obviously not a drone specialist. However NO ONE should bypass drone skills unless they play a non-Gallente small ships specialist and never want to move above cruiser/or they are a pure industry (non-mining!) slash hauling character.

[Fog]

Originally Posted by FoghornDeadhorn

....Ewar drone interfacing increases drone control range by 3km for all drones? I'll be goddamned, I never knew that.

It definitely does. Sort of surprising, but the skill is clear and it works.

[Kazgrim]

A force twice our size jumped into us sitting on a gate, they called a scorpion pilot primary and were wasting away at it. I figured their lone interceptor would be scramming their primary, much to my dismay they were scramming me and when the call to warp out happened the scorpion got out and I did not :P

More or less a lack of common sense on the interceptor pilots behalf made them lose a juicy T2 fitted scorp and got to pop my T1 fitted blackbird. What can ya do though? :P

forgot to reply to this earlier. Interceptors are fast tackle ships. Their job is to get shit tackled right now and keep them tackled until the rest of the fleet can get them locked, at which time someone else (several) should have already landed their own web/scrams while the interceptors go off to tackle the next target. In fact, if they're fitted correctly for the job they probably won't have the capacitor to sit there and baby sit the primary anyway, unless its such an overwhelming force primaries insta-pop the moment they're locked. Scorp was called primary obviously but I gurantee you your blackbird was called secondary (Such is the life of Caldari ECM ships ), which is why the ceptor had you tackled. It sounds to me that the interceptor pilot was doing his job perfectly, and because of that they got a kill (you). It was the cruisers/bc/bs of the fleet who lost their scram on the primary that let him get away.

message paid for by the United Alliance of Interceptor and Interdictor Pilots. We're always getting blamed for shit that's not even our fault and never get any props.

[merkur]

Lotta good info in here. Guys convinced me to play EVE. Been pew-pew'in some PA guys that wardeced EVE-UNI. Fun times. See yall in teh FOH channel.

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Doh, 1st post, hah, kinda a waste

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[Manticore]

its their third wardec of e-uni this year but this time it smells a lot like they got payed to attack us
yesterday they had around 7-8 bs lurking around our HQ and trying to bait members to attack them, using varied tactics ranging from having one sit outside a station while the rest of their gang was hiding in a safe spot/in another system ready to gang warp to him and also to try and use login traps that we didn't fell for
sadly we didn't have the guys with the big guns available partly cause of a 0.0 ops so they weren't engaged
however, these behaviour of trying to camp our HQ for quite some time is unusual for privateers unless they got hired by someone to do so

[Fog]

Originally Posted by Manticore

its their third wardec of e-uni this year but this time it smells a lot like they got payed to attack us
yesterday they had around 7-8 bs lurking around our HQ and trying to bait members to attack them, using varied tactics ranging from having one sit outside a station while the rest of their gang was hiding in a safe spot/in another system ready to gang warp to him and also to try and use login traps that we didn't fell for
sadly we didn't have the guys with the big guns available partly cause of a 0.0 ops so they weren't engaged
however, these behaviour of trying to camp our HQ for quite some time is unusual for privateers unless they got hired by someone to do so

Does Privateers "do" contracts? I didn't even think their corporations worked together, I thought the alliance was just a formality.

[Manticore]

Originally Posted by Fog

Does Privateers "do" contracts? I didn't even think their corporations worked together, I thought the alliance was just a formality.

they also accept contracts from anyone to fight any corp/alliance anywhere in empire, its part of how they are able to fund so many wardecs at once

the overall organisation of corps within privateers is chaotic as many of them just join for some fun and leave as quick as they came but they also got some corps that work together quite well, mainly the ones with members that have several million SP

[merkur]

Well it's defintly fun times. With the uni, anyhow. It's good practice to put all these pvp tactics we've been given into practice.

I'm actually looking forward to it lasting, since they canceled the last wardec.

First time I've come across recon ships and the like, I'm actually learning alot. I don't mind the occasional gate camp, or running from a PA fleet, it's all a new experience to me.

[Manticore]

Originally Posted by merkur

I'm actually looking forward to it lasting, since they canceled the last wardec.

they cancelled it because e-uni had their 3th anniversary celebration the next week and were asked to put the wardec down or delay it

[Rhaze]

what exactly are the privateers and what do they do ?

[Tirinal]

They're a loose-knit alliance of players that wardec anyone not in an npc corp or otherwise overly competent. Then they blob hubs in empire space, instagibbing high-value targets attempting to trade or pass through while banking on stuff like undock lag and container debumping to work in their favour. Everyone universally loathes them since Jita is so essential to selling certain items and being forced to use npc corp alts to transfer goods is a massive pain in the ass.