Green Monster Games (Curt Schilling) - Page 5

CylusSoulreaver · 09-11-2006, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebuchadnezzar

And as a sidenote, Tor needs to hurry up and release more of Erikson's novels in the states.

I usually end up ordering em from Amazon.ca or .uk, heh. Costs more but haven't been let down yet *shrugs*

Thoruk · 09-11-2006, 05:49 AM

The Dark Tower series was fantastic. I don't know if that classifies as fantasy though. I think it deserves its own designation as "fucked up." I loved S.R. Donaldson in his Thomas the Covenant the Unbeliever though. I don't think he would translate well into a MMO though.

Aethn Anvel · 09-11-2006, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Utnayan

Put them back down. RA Salvatore has been a sell out for the last few years.

I wish Schilling luck though. Hopefully he will understand what needs to be done in this genre.

Utnayan hasnt had anything to bitch about for a few weeks, this should keep him happy until the next round of expansions are released next week and he can feed is imaginary ego trying to tear them down.

Lenardo · 09-11-2006, 07:55 AM

If i was going to get a writer for a fantasy OR scifi mmo, i'd try to get David Weber.

one of his series - atleast the first book(mutineer's moon- you can read it for free on baen.com) i heard- is going to get animated for a miniseries.- it was going to be a full series, but the anime company that wanted to do it, wanted to change too much of the story for Mr. Weber to sign off on- he wants it to remain fairly true to the story.

the man writes decent/good fantasy and does VERY good Sci-Fi.(most of his sci-fi ends up on the NYT best seller's list)

another person i'd consider for a sci-fi type mmo would be john ringo. i don't think he has written much fantasy- though he does have one book series that is mostly fantasy, but it's a futuristic sci-fi type (science with body mods, shape shifters, elves, etc. it is a what happens if the "power" gets turned off type of story)

Kreugen · 09-11-2006, 08:12 AM

George R.R. Martin's setting would certianly work.

Clericnon2boxed · 09-11-2006, 08:32 AM

Best SF author I ve read in a while is Vernor Vinge, highly recommended.

As for MMO suitable 'settings', well Shadowrun and Battletech are the top ones I would pick.

Faltigoth · 09-11-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kreugen

George R.R. Martin's setting would certianly work.

I would pay out the nose for a Martin-setting MMO. It would almost have to be PvP / territory control based, which is not normally my thing, but I would play it anyway. I might be way off in thinking this, but I think that Age of Conan is a 'litmus test' for how well a Martin themed MMO would do; the settings are sort of similar, with the lack of normal fantasy races and the emphasis on PvP.

Zhakrin · 09-11-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Faltigoth

I would pay out the nose for a Martin-setting MMO. It would almost have to be PvP / territory control based, which is not normally my thing, but I would play it anyway. I might be way off in thinking this, but I think that Age of Conan is a 'litmus test' for how well a Martin themed MMO would do; the settings are sort of similar, with the lack of normal fantasy races and the emphasis on PvP.

personally i see Martin's world as more of a RTS or turn based strategy type game. It would kick some serious ass, especially with politics/diplomacy angles for working towards winning the throne.

Man0warr · 09-11-2006, 09:35 AM

Salvatore has alot of other really good books not dealing with Drizzt you know. He didn't really have a choice, Wizards saw the money and made him keep writing about Drizzt, i'm glad they let him write about Artemis and Jarlaxle some more and next month the 3rd book of that series comes out. The Cadderly 5 book series is also really good. War of the Spider Queen series is really good too though Salvatore doesn't have much more than an advisory role.

As for other authors, well most are just as guilty as Salvatore. Eddings has done much the same and Jordan has been dragging his series on since like Book 5.

Only authors that I have liked everything they have put out is Weis/Hickman, Richard Knaak (especially Legend of Huma), and Douglas Niles.

As far as authors being sell-outs, they are going to do whatever their publisher pays them to do. Just like you do what your boss tells you to at work. Money talks.

Overgauss · 09-11-2006, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Frax

This is his second game company, he is a major partner in a company called Multi-Man Publishing that makes addons and scenarios for Advanced Squad Leader.

WTB ASLSK#3 and The Devil's Cauldron PST.

Edit:
Oh yeah, And Fire in the Sky, Nobunaga, and Feudal Lord

muninn · 09-11-2006, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kreugen

George R.R. Martin's setting would certianly work.

This setting would definitely require permanent character death and the ability to be 1-shotted by anyone, regardless of level. Oh, and all NPC's must occasionaly just switch factions without warning.

Awesome books though, once you realize nothing positive is going to happen for about 3000 pages.

Nebuchadnezzar · 09-11-2006, 07:55 PM

I see aSoIaF working more as a Total War game that an MMO. Actually, I pray nightly that it will happen one day.

Moontayle · 09-11-2006, 08:21 PM

A couple of years ago I was in the process of submitting a proposal to WOTC for an Open Call they held (Maiden of Pain book, guy who got it wrote complete shit that I wouldn't press upon my worst enemy). Part of this had me browsing their book forums and getting the lay of the land, as it were. One post was talking about the most annoying characters you'd run across in an FR novel. One guy said it was the two dwarves in the Cantical series (Ivan and Pikel). Bob popped in a couple of posts later, dropped a couple of lines of emo and then left. The next two pages of posts were basically of people going 'WTF?'. Asking around with a few people who'd been there a while basically summed it up with "Bob doesn't take criticism very well". I hope in the intervening years since then that he's been able to temper that a bit. Criticism in the MMO industry is thick enough to slice off and serve to your house guests.

Salvatore used to be good. He used to be very good. I read everything he wrote, Forgotten Realms or not. However, the turning point for me was the 3rd book in the demon series. The one where half the time it's Pony doing the Drizzt emo bit and the other half was Elbryan doing the Drizzt emo bit. Right...

ChewieTobbacca · 09-11-2006, 08:34 PM

I personally thought Salvatore's best book (at least concerining Drizzt) was the one about Drizzt's youth and exile (forget the trilogy's name).

aSoIF has been considered for mods for Rome Total War.. in fact, with Medieval 2 Total War not too far away, and the improved engine and similar setting, I see it coming soon.

Kuro · 09-12-2006, 07:53 AM

a Song of Fire and Ice MMO would involve you hitting level 60 and being instantly killed out of nowhere, and the character deleted.

09-11-2006, 09:35 AM	#69 (permalink)
Man0warr Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,011 +0 Internets	Salvatore has alot of other really good books not dealing with Drizzt you know. He didn't really have a choice, Wizards saw the money and made him keep writing about Drizzt, i'm glad they let him write about Artemis and Jarlaxle some more and next month the 3rd book of that series comes out. The Cadderly 5 book series is also really good. War of the Spider Queen series is really good too though Salvatore doesn't have much more than an advisory role. As for other authors, well most are just as guilty as Salvatore. Eddings has done much the same and Jordan has been dragging his series on since like Book 5. Only authors that I have liked everything they have put out is Weis/Hickman, Richard Knaak (especially Legend of Huma), and Douglas Niles. As far as authors being sell-outs, they are going to do whatever their publisher pays them to do. Just like you do what your boss tells you to at work. Money talks. __________________ Manowarr - 70 Hunter Illidan - Saga (Retired) Battlesaur Robotindisguise - The Rathe (Retired) Hime - 80 Brigand - Antonia Bayle (Retired) Manowarr - Deathwhisper - The Regulators

09-11-2006, 07:55 PM	#72 (permalink)
Nebuchadnezzar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,462 +0 Internets	I see aSoIaF working more as a Total War game that an MMO. Actually, I pray nightly that it will happen one day. __________________ I eat grass like an ox and shat like a fox.

09-11-2006, 08:21 PM	#73 (permalink)
Moontayle Romo is a manwhore Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,428	A couple of years ago I was in the process of submitting a proposal to WOTC for an Open Call they held (Maiden of Pain book, guy who got it wrote complete shit that I wouldn't press upon my worst enemy). Part of this had me browsing their book forums and getting the lay of the land, as it were. One post was talking about the most annoying characters you'd run across in an FR novel. One guy said it was the two dwarves in the Cantical series (Ivan and Pikel). Bob popped in a couple of posts later, dropped a couple of lines of emo and then left. The next two pages of posts were basically of people going 'WTF?'. Asking around with a few people who'd been there a while basically summed it up with "Bob doesn't take criticism very well". I hope in the intervening years since then that he's been able to temper that a bit. Criticism in the MMO industry is thick enough to slice off and serve to your house guests. Salvatore used to be good. He used to be very good. I read everything he wrote, Forgotten Realms or not. However, the turning point for me was the 3rd book in the demon series. The one where half the time it's Pony doing the Drizzt emo bit and the other half was Elbryan doing the Drizzt emo bit. Right... __________________ WoW - Lieutenant-Commander Ignitz, 70 Gnome Warrior, Shadow Council, Devstyle, Retired

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09-11-2006, 05:49 AM	#62 (permalink)
Thoruk Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 115 +0 Internets	The Dark Tower series was fantastic. I don't know if that classifies as fantasy though. I think it deserves its own designation as "fucked up." I loved S.R. Donaldson in his Thomas the Covenant the Unbeliever though. I don't think he would translate well into a MMO though.

09-11-2006, 07:55 AM	#64 (permalink)
Lenardo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,143 +5 Internets	If i was going to get a writer for a fantasy OR scifi mmo, i'd try to get David Weber. one of his series - atleast the first book(mutineer's moon- you can read it for free on baen.com) i heard- is going to get animated for a miniseries.- it was going to be a full series, but the anime company that wanted to do it, wanted to change too much of the story for Mr. Weber to sign off on- he wants it to remain fairly true to the story. the man writes decent/good fantasy and does VERY good Sci-Fi.(most of his sci-fi ends up on the NYT best seller's list) another person i'd consider for a sci-fi type mmo would be john ringo. i don't think he has written much fantasy- though he does have one book series that is mostly fantasy, but it's a futuristic sci-fi type (science with body mods, shape shifters, elves, etc. it is a what happens if the "power" gets turned off type of story)

09-11-2006, 08:12 AM	#65 (permalink)
Kreugen Fires of Heaven Ancient Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,524 +23 Internets	George R.R. Martin's setting would certianly work.

09-11-2006, 08:32 AM	#66 (permalink)
Clericnon2boxed Up Syndrome Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bärlin Posts: 1,334 -1 Internets	Best SF author I ve read in a while is Vernor Vinge, highly recommended. As for MMO suitable 'settings', well Shadowrun and Battletech are the top ones I would pick.

09-11-2006, 08:34 PM	#74 (permalink)
ChewieTobbacca Sir Robin Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,481	I personally thought Salvatore's best book (at least concerining Drizzt) was the one about Drizzt's youth and exile (forget the trilogy's name). aSoIF has been considered for mods for Rome Total War.. in fact, with Medieval 2 Total War not too far away, and the improved engine and similar setting, I see it coming soon.

09-12-2006, 07:53 AM	#75 (permalink)
Kuro Support Beam Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,334 -2 Internets	a Song of Fire and Ice MMO would involve you hitting level 60 and being instantly killed out of nowhere, and the character deleted.