Vanguard mini-videos -- you got 'em! - Page 9

Lorrac · 08-31-2006, 03:54 PM

It's not so much the need of realistic cow routines but rather complex AI's (fun!) vs pathed crrap (boring). Kind of got the feeling brad n folks would have loved to have the former but available server harwarde nowadays made them settle for the latter. Oh well.

Wizerud · 08-31-2006, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Duppin

Considering the massive amount of bullshit slung at you on these boards, I don't think anyone is going to fault you for taking a dig or two back from time to time, whether it's your "job" or not.

He's just being honest, like Ut asked him to be

Weritech · 08-31-2006, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerrith

Yes, the clipping is really close at the settings I was using. It's actually something we've been discussing changes to, as there are situations right now where you see too much, and situations where you see too little.

Please seperate clipping for terrain from that of charcters somehow. It's one thing for an inert tree or pile of rocks to pop into view, another entirely for an angry mob.

frott · 08-31-2006, 04:18 PM

I'm going to try the game no matter what... don't need selling, will not get burned out pre-release, no need for over-information.

This doesn't do anything for me because the word and opinions of most people I've read who've had nothing good to say about the game are about as useful to me as wet toilet paper in Hell, so if "this looks way better than I imagined!" you need to fix your imagination.

Simoran · 08-31-2006, 04:40 PM

What happens if you have the distance clipping plane near and the mob clipping plane far? Hah, bug

Bizanich · 08-31-2006, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Aradune Mithara

I *should* be professional all of the time, but it was late, and I am human.

I disagree. I think acting human and responding like you did with Neric would create a much more fanatical fanbase. Read the Eve Devblogs and see what I mean

.

If it wasn't the Internet, I'd agree, but....

Frax · 08-31-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Aradune Mithara

I *should* be professional all of the time, but it was late, and I am human.

'professional' is just an image, being honest is >>>> professional even tho it won't glad hand the corporate types :P

Sithro · 08-31-2006, 05:08 PM

Just wanted to say.

Thanks for the video, Brad. And keep slugging at Neric, etc. It makes you more respectable in my eyes. :P

Zehn - Vhex · 08-31-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Duppin

See, I /hate/ that shit.

If I want to play an FPS, I'll play an FPS. MMORPG combat is a different animal for me, and a lot of other people, and I would much rather be more concerned about using my abilities effectively (and require more decision making to go into that) than be worrying about strafing and jumping and crap.

Not everyone is a rhesus monkey with ADD like you are

And not everyone takes 5 seconds to make a decision like you adle-brained alzheimer patients. <3

Lost Ranger · 08-31-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

And not everyone takes 5 seconds to make a decision like you adle-brained alzheimer patients. <3

They really should find a happy medium between the two. I personally couldnt stand the rogues who jump around me while we dueled or whatever it made me think I was playing counter strike and was annoying as hell.

At the same time I dont want another game as slow as EQ1. Only class I could play in EQ1 was a bard because it was so active. So if they had a MMO that was somewhere between EQ bard, and WoW rogue I think everyone can be somewhat happy.

Jait · 08-31-2006, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by frott

I'm going to try the game no matter what... don't need selling, will not get burned out pre-release, no need for over-information.

This doesn't do anything for me because the word and opinions of most people I've read who've had nothing good to say about the game are about as useful to me as wet toilet paper in Hell, so if "this looks way better than I imagined!" you need to fix your imagination.

Wet toilet paper in Hell might be very useful sir.

But I totally agree with everything else you said

biteablegravy · 08-31-2006, 07:50 PM

It looks like the subtle way to encourage grouping is by making fights last an obscene amount of time solo. I would definitely understand if this was something 'yellow' or even 'green', but a grey mob really shouldn't take that long (my opinion) with yellow damage included.

I've read all about the slow moving combat, allowing you to input chains and maneuver, and it all sounds like a great idea. But ~35secs to kill something significantly lower level seems a bit extreme.

Hopefully this is something that's still being tweaked out?

Ham n Cheese · 08-31-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by titan_atlas

I take with a grain of salt the humor meter of a man with a panda bear breaking an album as his avatar.

uh.. okay? I'm not sure if you're implying that you think my avatar is supposed to be funny or you just don't like pandas and records.

Big W Powah! · 08-31-2006, 08:26 PM

Brad, you deserve to be able to defend yourself and your game. Its your labor of love. Honestly, seeing humanity and honesty about this whole situation, instead of some CS rep line is very refreshing.

THANK YOU for dispelling the rumors, its whats needed if you truely want Vanguard to stand out.

kcxiv · 08-31-2006, 09:30 PM

Looks pretty good. I just hope i can enjoy the game. I been playing EQ for a long while. I still enjoy it, but if a game thats better comes out and i like it i will make the switch. WoW to me was a piece of shit.

Anyways, i just hope i could enjoy it.

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08-31-2006, 03:54 PM	#121 (permalink)
Lorrac Invaders Spaced Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: the land of 16% VAT Posts: 1,394 -4 Internets	It's not so much the need of realistic cow routines but rather complex AI's (fun!) vs pathed crrap (boring). Kind of got the feeling brad n folks would have loved to have the former but available server harwarde nowadays made them settle for the latter. Oh well.

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frott Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,392 +0 Internets	I'm going to try the game no matter what... don't need selling, will not get burned out pre-release, no need for over-information. This doesn't do anything for me because the word and opinions of most people I've read who've had nothing good to say about the game are about as useful to me as wet toilet paper in Hell, so if "this looks way better than I imagined!" you need to fix your imagination.

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Simoran Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 70 -1 Internets	What happens if you have the distance clipping plane near and the mob clipping plane far? Hah, bug

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biteablegravy fuckin 02ers Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 98 -3 Internets	It looks like the subtle way to encourage grouping is by making fights last an obscene amount of time solo. I would definitely understand if this was something 'yellow' or even 'green', but a grey mob really shouldn't take that long (my opinion) with yellow damage included. I've read all about the slow moving combat, allowing you to input chains and maneuver, and it all sounds like a great idea. But ~35secs to kill something significantly lower level seems a bit extreme. Hopefully this is something that's still being tweaked out?

08-31-2006, 09:30 PM	#135 (permalink)
kcxiv Sim Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central Valley, Cali Posts: 4,150 +0 Internets	Looks pretty good. I just hope i can enjoy the game. I been playing EQ for a long while. I still enjoy it, but if a game thats better comes out and i like it i will make the switch. WoW to me was a piece of shit. Anyways, i just hope i could enjoy it.