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[Asmadai]

Being the most polished and 'complete' MMO to date when it was released still doesn't change the fact THAT IT WAS UNPOLISHED AND INCOMPLETE.

The degree in which it sucked means DICK here. The fact of the matter is that it WASN'T DONE.

Now, the funny part is, take all the posts that have pointed out the incompleteness of WoW upon it's release, and then consider who Utnayan is. Now know that he actually plays WoW...after spewing 7 pages of bullshit at McQuaid about how his game will be unfinished come launch. The irony is enough to kill a man, seriously.

[Camerous]

Originally Posted by Korbal

What the FUCK? WoW was by FAR the most well done and polished major MMO released to date. Of course there are going to be some problems, but that is to be expected with the nature of MMO's. I feel bad for Vanguard when all you faggots have such impossible standards.

Again another retarded WoWfanboi rears his stupid head. Eq2 had one of the most if not THE most polished releases. I played the night it was released and never one crashed or experienced a bug that caused me not to be able to continue progressing my toon.

Everyone who says WoW had a polished and great release are just plain fucking stupid or chuggin Blizzard cock or both.

[Bolero]

In ranting against Ut, I was not defending the game. He is still a nutjob, even if I agree with him. The screenshots look merely decent, but the gameplay (endgame?) is still an unknown. Right now the engine sucks and I wouldn't touch it with a 50 foot pole. Give me 45fps minimum on a 7800gtx at 1680x1050 with decent settings or I wont buy. I really hope they do some work with the engine.

The problem with the screenshots is that they look so incredibly generic. Where is the innovation? Humanoids with boring weapons and armor in a boring and lifeless area. I can overlook that if the gameplay is good, but right now the gameplay is an unknown. These stills don't really give us much information. I would like to see some more gameplay videos.

Look at the other mmorpgs coming on to the market. They all have a catch. Warhammer has pvp focus and a fast engine, LOTRO has a great, well known setting. Conan has gore and a different approach to the early levels. What is Vanguards catch? It certainly isn't the graphics or the engine. That leaves... the gameplay, which we don't know much about and seems to change every week.

At this point if Brad really wants to leave a good impression about Vanguard on this board, he should change his approach. All of these lifeless screenshots are just fluff. We need the meat. Gameplay vids, endgame design, class balance design, customer support plans (hi2u SOE), etc. Right now it just aint happenin.

[Cad]

Originally Posted by Camerous

Again another retarded WoWfanboi rears his stupid head. Eq2 had one of the most if not THE most polished releases. I played the night it was released and never one crashed or experienced a bug that caused me not to be able to continue progressing my toon.

Everyone who says WoW had a polished and great release are just plain fucking stupid or chuggin Blizzard cock or both.

The software that shipped at WoW release was highly polished and 99% bug-free for what we did for the first 4-5 months of the game.

The servers sucked ass and whoever planned for 20 servers on release of this game I hope they've been anally violated by a large black man.

[Camerous]

Originally Posted by Cad

The software that shipped at WoW release was highly polished and 99% bug-free for what we did for the first 4-5 months of the game.

The servers sucked ass and whoever planned for 20 servers on release of this game I hope they've been anally violated by a large black man.

Are the servers not part of the game? I think that yes they are.

And I will agree with you about the software being polished but the fact is it was UNFINISHED. That is the whole point of this little thing...UT is going on and on about VG is not gonna be complete and blah blah blah when in fact he never posted a single thing, that I am aware of, about how incomplete WoW is. That right there just proves that he is biased and completely off the deep end about SoE and Brad. Anything he could say, besides the few points I agreed with him on, are totally useless and will be ignored. I am begining to think he works for Sigil and this is a clever marketing ploy to make us all try it just to spite Ut lol.

[Neric]

Originally Posted by Sithro

And Ut and Neric's comical bitching has probably convinced more people to buy the game than Brad and co could ever do.

We actually get paid by Sigil for this promotion, but don't tell anyone.

Originally Posted by Oriflame

Heh, SoE botched EQ, not Brad. Most people who play, or have ever played, state that the best time in EQ was when he was still at the reigns.

This must be a case of selective perception. I may remind you of the fact that when Brad left SoE, the playerbase was cheering! Remember the vision (tm)?

The reason why Brad's popularity recovered from the Luclin disaster was that EQ got much worse at the end of PoP. It was back then when people started to wonder if this would all have happend under his guidance also. Since nobody, not even Brad, could ever screw up a game like that, the answer was "no" and from then on Brad was the hero again.

[Utnayan]

Originally Posted by Aradune Mithara

Und fuer meine Deutscher Freunde, das Releasedatum ist nicht Winter 2006. Vielen dank. Hoffentlich, aber mein Deutsch ist ja sehr schrecklich, es ist schon klar, auf Deutsch und auf Englisch: Vanguard's Releasedatum ist dieses Winter. Wir haben nicht die Jahre gesagt, und nicht der Motat und nicht der Tag. Es tut mir leid, aber unser Freund Utnayan ist nicht richtig auf Englisch oder auf Deutsch und eigentlich nicht auf Französisch auch. Ich hoffe, daß er herauf das Mögen Vanguard irgendwie fertigwird und das er eine glücklichere Person wird.

btw, did you hear anything else? Like any info on the game? How is it showing? People's reactions?

1> Thanks for correcting the issue. You gain a little bit of crediblity now that you aren't rushing this to the holiday rush. Better, but it still isn't going to be long enough - but better.

2> No I have not heard anything positive. Let me show you some animations from a different game - maybe you can hire these guys?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1LeE...elated&search=

^^ I just watched that again and shit my pants. THAT'S a next generation MMORPG. And you know what McQuaid? To my knowledge that isn't even BETA yet. And they are not afraid to show that. You've had 5 years and all you've got are shitty screenshots and a shit trailer which shows robotic like animation? You want to talk about McQuaid getting owned? That right there shows how inferior Vanguard is.

Yuo still have not answered any of the glaring questions:

Animations: When did this supposed new system go into place, and why did they not have an impact on current animations.

Classes - Cutting classes already. What else will be cut?

High end content: How much of this will you have ready at launch?

To those ripping on McQuaid for Luclin, even I will say that is unfair. Luclin was Butler's fault. The guy couldn't produce his way out of a paper nut sack, and it shows here with this product as well. You guys thought Luclin was bad... just wait.

Butler couldn't schedule a time to get his teeth cleaned and make the appointment.

As far as the rest of the Ut Haters - bring it on bitches. I'll yell over the vanboi bullshit anyday - and while Rich Vogel keeps lavishing the stupidity of some people here and how easily you are sidetracked by worthless shit, I'll keep going against that and look for some solid factual answers that have still not been stated, while some of you idiots keep passing around the deflection pipe. Or better yet, keep posting Aion trailers in every single marketing thread McQuaid creates to show how much he is behind in today's game design, methods, procedures, and most importantly, product.

[Maxxius]

Eh guess my 2 cents. The only screenshot I like is the prayer room. The outdoor ones really do look too pastelish and fuzzy. Also the two human characters just look awkward in their combat stance. But then again this is just my impression, take it for what it is worth. I don't feel like getting into the anti VG debate since I think it is silly at this point now. Either the game will be good or it will suck, time will tell. I just won't be jumping on the bandwagon.

[Laerazi]

I think it's pretty clear now that you're a mindless fuck who's fast to believe anything remotely negative about Vanguard, true or false, and blow it out of proportion. Have fun with that.

[Utnayan]

Originally Posted by Laerazi

I think it's pretty clear now that you're a mindless fuck who's fast to believe anything remotely negative about Vanguard, true or false, and blow it out of proportion. Have fun with that.

Shut the fuck up faggot. You're on the opposite end of the spectrum. Go back to watching that video I posted, and cry yourself to sleep tonight knowing you'll be cheering for the 1984 Minnesota Vikings. "Go Les Steck... I mean go go Brad! Fix those animations baby and bring them up to par with the AOL Neverwinter Nights Online Gold Box series.

PS: You're a little whiney faggot fanboi.

[Etadanik]

I think we've gone over this before, but Aion is NCSoft inhouse = Lineage 2 developers = mad Asian style graphics. No American/European house can compete with that, at least on the surface, but there have always been disadvantages to Lineage 2's approach to the graphical pipeline, such as a lack of customizability and looking better in videos/screenshots than they do in-game by a long shot.

A better comparison to Vanguard would be Age of Conan, which has better graphics (imo), but not so much that VG would be hopelessly outclassed so long as those animations are improved.

[Samflam]

I think that movie you linked looks awesome, Vanguard doesn't look like it's my style and I think WoW is an awesome game and I still think you're a fucking idiot.

[holymight]

Originally Posted by Utnayan

^^ I just watched that again and shit my pants. THAT'S a next generation MMORPG.

Your calling a NCSoft MMO truely next gen? I guess you haven't played their other MMOs then.

[Laerazi]

When the fuck did I say the animations were good? I'd like answers too, but I'm not going to be a whiney cunt and spew misinformed bullshit and random accusations until a dev comes along to correct me.

PS: You're a little whiney faggot anti-fanboi.

[Itzena]

Originally Posted by Korbal

What the FUCK? WoW was by FAR the most well done and polished major MMO released to date. Of course there are going to be some problems, but that is to be expected with the nature of MMO's. I feel bad for Vanguard when all you faggots have such impossible standards.

I don't because they're almost certainly going to have to eat all their words after the VG launch.