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Old 08-23-2006, 12:28 PM   #136 (permalink)
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The only thing I'd care about is Aradune actually talking here. What he does right now is in no way different to Gold farmers spamming their " come to my site" message.
Except...he is making a..MMO? And they are..breakin the law? Oh you mena by advertising they are the same? Ya fuck Brad and Coke and Tide..oh wait...everyone advertises...to rag on one person for doing it is kinda stupid..but hey Qui you have always fit that bill.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:28 PM   #137 (permalink)
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Yeah the min reqs are gonna shit on any kinda of big opening Sigil could hope for.

I think my machine barely meets them and I'm sure as hell not gonna run to newegg to upgrade for a game that isn't getting the best reviews so far.

I think Sigil's covert strategy for eliminating the secondary market in Vanguard is to make sure you don't have any money left after you upgrade your machine enough to play it.
I've seen it running on a computer I built for someone:

Sempron64 3100+ (oc'ed to 2.25GHz)
ATI X800GTO2 (16 pipes and oc'ed to 600/600)
1GB RAM (because socket 754 boards are gay and only have 2 slots)

= 1280x800 @ Very High, with sliders reduced to Medium defaults, no AA, no AF, and no HDR (if Valve can implement SM2.0 HDR, every other company's excuse for not doing it is bullshit). Approximately 20fps in most non-town areas. A simple upgrade to 2GB RAM would put it in the 25-30fps range, I'm certain. That's prior to Sigil doing their own optimization, so imo it will be very playable on that computer come release.

That was about $400 in hardware 8 months ago, for the cpu, motherboard, and video card. Other parts like HD, RAM, PSU, case, and dvd burner were recycled. Prices on everything except RAM have dropped quite a bit since January. People who can't put ~$600 into a gaming PC should go buy fucking Wii's and stop holding the rest of us back.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:28 PM   #138 (permalink)
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I have to agree with Ut and Neric. The Vanguard pics compared to the ones Neric posted are absolute shit. I've never seen screenshots of LotR until just now (didn't even know an MMO was in the making for it), but I saw them and went "Woah! What game is that?!" I wanted to go there. I've seen dozens of SSs for VG and it just doesn't have any visual appeal or atmosphere. I'de rather play an MMO set in the backdrop of a landfill. It's pathetic.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:28 PM   #139 (permalink)
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The only thing I'd care about is Aradune actually talking here. What he does right now is in no way different to Gold farmers spamming their " come to my site" message.
Except that FoH is actually a MMORPG fan forum and not a Gold Farmer fan forum. At least that's why I am here, and why I like to hear what Brad has to say - while I don't like to hear what a Gold Farmer or UT might have to spam.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:31 PM   #140 (permalink)
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I have to agree with Ut and Neric. The Vanguard pics compared to the ones Neric posted are absolute shit. I've never seen screenshots of LotR until just now (didn't even know an MMO was in the making for it), but I saw them and went "Woah! What game is that?!" I wanted to go there. I've seen dozens of SSs for VG and it just doesn't have any visual appeal or atmosphere. I'de rather play an MMO set in the backdrop of a landfill. It's pathetic.
Didn't know there was a LotRs MMO coming out even though there have been threads about it on here as well as people ragging on the developers again and again through numerous threads? Ya ok. Got a bridge you are trying to sell too?
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:32 PM   #141 (permalink)
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Vorph has a point.

I think another reason behind most people being so shocked at the spec's for the game is that probably most people looking to play VG are playing WoW, a game that probably has not and will not require them to update any of their current hardware.

Those who've been upgrading their comp for other games aren't feeling the burn as bad for obvious reasons. I don't think i'll have to do anything for Vanguard except maybe add another gig of RAM or so, which i've been meaning to do anyway.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:34 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Didn't know there was a LotRs MMO coming out even though there have been threads about it on here as well as people ragging on the developers again and again through numerous threads? Ya ok. Got a bridge you are trying to sell too?
I don't read every thread on this board. I just read topics of interest from time to time. I honestly didn't know there was an LotR MMO. So what?
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:35 PM   #143 (permalink)
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WOW a dwarf on a griffon!?! I haven't seen one of those since about 3 years ago in DAoC. Think I'll go create a game with two moving blocks and a bouncing ball in which you can change the background color and call it a 10th generation consule game.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:39 PM   #144 (permalink)
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I don't read every thread on this board. I just read topics of interest from time to time. I honestly didn't know there was an LotR MMO. So what?
Just find it hard to believe that anyone who even reads this boards 1 day a week wouldn't know about LotRs mmo...but hey maybe not. Oh in case you missed it there is a Conan game coming out too!!
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:39 PM   #145 (permalink)
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People who can't put ~$600 into a gaming PC should go buy fucking Wii's and stop holding the rest of us back.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:40 PM   #146 (permalink)
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Except that FoH is actually a MMORPG fan forum and not a Gold Farmer fan forum. At least that's why I am here, and why I like to hear what Brad has to say - while I don't like to hear what a Gold Farmer or UT might have to spam.
Here, let me save you the next 3 months of reading:

Here is another 5,002 exclusive screenshots over 56 thread creations.

We have some interesting things coming down the pipe. I cannot tell you - the marketing guys would get pissed at me. I can only say that they are awesome. Boy, just wait until I can say something, even though I am the head of the company and they cannot tell me what to do.

Oh wait. Here is another screenshot. This one will show the sand. Just wait until we add bump mapping. That won't make launch, but hopefully soon! (TM)

Gameplay videos will be coming out after we launch the game. That's kind of a thing we here at Sigil cannot wait for you to see. But we think animations, gameplay, and the feeling of wiping your ass with a cold card credit card is something that should be experienced first hand.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:41 PM   #147 (permalink)
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I don't read every thread on this board. I just read topics of interest from time to time. I honestly didn't know there was an LotR MMO. So what?
Then you probably also don't know that Turbine photoshops their screenshots and the game does not actually look like that.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:41 PM   #148 (permalink)
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Except...he is making a..MMO? And they are..breakin the law?
lol what "Law" are you talking about?

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Except that FoH is actually a MMORPG fan forum and not a Gold Farmer fan forum. At least that's why I am here, and why I like to hear what Brad has to say - while I don't like to hear what a Gold Farmer or UT might have to spam.
You don't have to be a Gold farmer fan even if you buy from them, but at least Brad could reply to questions here instead of popping a thread once a week here and disappearing again.

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Old 08-23-2006, 12:43 PM   #149 (permalink)
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Then you probably also don't know that Turbine photoshops their screenshots and the game does not actually look like that.
Point being? VG could do the same thing to their screenshots and they would still look like shit. You can't polish a turd.
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Going to add some feedback on the shots here.

The posture in the dual screenshots seem really stiff. Why do all the PC's seem like they can't bend very well? I get this 'barbiesque' type of feel whenever I look at action shots in the game.
I really like the overhead shot of the grass, the textures worked. The ones in the prayer room did not. I have a feeling this has something to do with the lack of shadows (it is, afterall, a candlelit room, not outside).

Please please put in antialiasing. The screenshots of other games look so much better because they are smooth, and pleaseing to the eye. Your screenshots are jagged and lack 'something' which I can partially attribute to AA.

In the PvP screenshot, is that person you are dualing a woman? It is so hard to tell in VG. I want to see more skin.

I really, really like the icons for each class in the group panel on the top left hand side of the screen. They remind me of T-King. I also like the icons for armor. Not so in-love with the icons for combat, (do you really need that many visuals of a sword?).
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