Leaked mage talents/skills from expansion alpha. - Page 10

yknits · 08-24-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cybsled

Didnt someone say they rolled some -aggro into the dest/affliction tree talents that already exist? Whoever took those SS should have left out the shit thats the same (conflag, dp) and actually put up SS of the altered talents.

It got nerfed in 1.12...for most epic'd out warlocks, it is doing roughly 200-250 less damage/heal. Also why should it be nerfed? Mages get a metric fuckton of instant escape abilities. Warlocks will still only have DC and their fears unless you spec heavy into destruction...that ae stun isnt a core ability, you realize this?

I have to admit that I am excited about some of the changes. SOME. Then again they kind of reflect some of the changes I posted in my comprehensive warlock overhaul. I dont know if they saw it or even read it but there are definately some similarities and effort put into these talents.

Tho dark pact NEEDS to become activate/deactivate at 2 second tic pulse. That little ability change would make that talent pretty god damn nice.

Giving us an ability to lower threat every 2 min is fine. Take away the fucking shard requirement. It's not like they are actually going to give us mobs to get shards from anyway. They expect us to farm for an hour before each raid just to play our fucking class. First clue should be the guilds who REQUIRE warlocks to bring 40ish shards.

Not sure how the mages feel about their talents but they look pretty sweet to me.

I think the paly talents look pretty good overall as well, though I havent gone over any other class than warlock with a fine tooth comb yet.

No mention of fixing enslave demon.

As for warriors... I really hope they make Prot warriors into threat-meatshield machines. Give defiance like 20% more threat than it already gives. Make the 31 point talent generate about 10% more aggro than it does.

Then give the prot warriors a talent to increase their "level" in battle. For example at lvl 60 they show up as lvl 63 or 64. Lowering crushing blows.

At lvl 70 maybe make their "level" 80 to mobs.

Im just spouting crap off but I hope they get some real good love.

frott · 08-24-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Esmo

Why do you think Priests are going to become obsolete in TBC? If anything, I think we'll become even more valuable as Blizz decides to take the Shaman and Paladin farther away from healing roles.

PVP.

While I will enjoy the arena as a shadow priest, if I wanted to be a healer I'm pretty sure paladin is the way to go. In fact, the more they take paladins away from healing the more valuable their heals become in PVP. Give them a ton of non-healing centric survival/buffing talents innately and then just buff the shit out of their healing through gear, hell, even cloth, and see what happens.

My own PVP belief is that healers should be nearly invincible until the classes they're supporting are downed first, none of this "lol drill teh priest" shit that happens now. I think WoW pvp could take a nice lesson from the abilities of a Monk in GW... or any of a number of games that afford healers this luxury...

Who rules preventative healing? Power word shield? Pff. Paladins by far.

Clericnon2boxed · 08-24-2006, 04:18 PM

Looking at all those new quite nice talents I'd wish they would give 2 talent points per level past 60.

kromor · 08-24-2006, 05:25 PM

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Sanctified Crusader, requires 40, 1 point
In addition to the normal effect, your Judgement of the Crusader will increase the critical strike chance of all attacks made vs the judged target by an additional 2%

If this is legit/real, then the Retribution tree will finally have something other than a talented buff that's raid friendly.

I hope Blizzard either calls these notes fake or confirms them quickly.

Nehrak · 08-24-2006, 06:13 PM

Or better yet, posts full spell/talents on the website. :P Probably won't happen until late in development (near release) of the expansion, though.

Cybsled · 08-24-2006, 07:04 PM

They're not fake I'm quite sure.

On the other hand, that doesn't mean they will make final release untouched. I suspect many of the talents and spells will undergo tweaks and changes as more balance testing is done.

Fendryl · 08-24-2006, 07:05 PM

I'm quite disappointed with the FnF Hunters.... chop chop guys =)

Draz · 08-24-2006, 08:15 PM

Yes, Where are the hunter talents at?

MinionOfCthulhu · 08-25-2006, 01:53 AM

theawddone · 08-25-2006, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MinionOfCthulhu

Good one.

venom · 08-25-2006, 02:39 AM

Non-ImageShack.

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Ziggurat · 08-25-2006, 02:42 AM

I think those are the most fake looking talents in the history of fake faking fakery

Zest · 08-25-2006, 02:44 AM

Word on the street is that Priest talents aren't done yet... but apparently they get a ghetto Shadowburn (no shard, but heals back up after a few seconds), a Shadow heal (Regrowth without the HoT effect style) and Brainwash makes a comeback.

Zamar · 08-25-2006, 02:52 AM

Endless rage + crit furious throw = dead mage...

The protection talents seem nicer, some spell resistance finally, but the arms / fury talents are tempting as well...

Deris · 08-25-2006, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Zest

Word on the street is that Priest talents aren't done yet... but apparently they get a ghetto Shadowburn (no shard, but heals back up after a few seconds), a Shadow heal (Regrowth without the HoT effect style) and Brainwash makes a comeback.

i.e we're still fucked for pvp healing.

08-24-2006, 07:04 PM	#141 (permalink)
Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 10,278 +49 Internets	They're not fake I'm quite sure. On the other hand, that doesn't mean they will make final release untouched. I suspect many of the talents and spells will undergo tweaks and changes as more balance testing is done. __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

08-24-2006, 07:05 PM	#142 (permalink)
Fendryl HikaSlayer Extraodinaire Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 153 +0 Internets	I'm quite disappointed with the FnF Hunters.... chop chop guys =) __________________ Fendretta <Devierum>

08-25-2006, 01:53 AM	#144 (permalink)
MinionOfCthulhu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 390 +2 Internets	__________________ Finally! Now is the time where my true might shines, like many angry sunbeams of rage!

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Clericnon2boxed this way Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: El Dorado Posts: 1,790	Looking at all those new quite nice talents I'd wish they would give 2 talent points per level past 60.

08-24-2006, 06:13 PM	#140 (permalink)
Nehrak It just don't mean a thing. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Home Posts: 1,118	Or better yet, posts full spell/talents on the website. :P Probably won't happen until late in development (near release) of the expansion, though.

08-24-2006, 08:15 PM	#143 (permalink)
Draz (P^_^)-P Q-(^_^Q) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 663 -56 Internets	Yes, Where are the hunter talents at?

08-25-2006, 02:39 AM	#146 (permalink)
venom Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 197	Non-ImageShack. [IMG]nolinkz.com[/IMG]

08-25-2006, 02:42 AM	#147 (permalink)
Ziggurat Oldschool Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 345 +5 Internets	I think those are the most fake looking talents in the history of fake faking fakery

08-25-2006, 02:44 AM	#148 (permalink)
Zest Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 815	Word on the street is that Priest talents aren't done yet... but apparently they get a ghetto Shadowburn (no shard, but heals back up after a few seconds), a Shadow heal (Regrowth without the HoT effect style) and Brainwash makes a comeback.

08-25-2006, 02:52 AM	#149 (permalink)
Zamar Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 144 -1 Internets	Endless rage + crit furious throw = dead mage... The protection talents seem nicer, some spell resistance finally, but the arms / fury talents are tempting as well...