T3 Gear Laughable in TBC. - Page 22

Kodylan · 08-01-2006, 03:47 AM

Yeah the older epics are a bit too rare in zg imo. We did it twice this weekend to equip some recruits that rerolled alliance from horde while our meet was going on and we had terrible drops tonight. Jin'do coughed up the goods though dropping the staff and mace in the same kill - fairly decent I guess. I think we've only seen one pair of the boots off the tiger boss and such.

Anyway, the newer loot is a good thing though and gives a glimpse of what TBC encounters will probably be itemized like. It carries over into Naxx as well, I can't really say I have many gripes about the newer itemization and item design at all. HOWEVER, killing Gothik the first time and getting a mail frost resist helm and one set piece eats ass. If anything that resist gear should have its own drop slot and be similar to the bag in ZG - only a chance to drop instead of 100% of the time.

Chaid · 08-01-2006, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodylan

HOWEVER, killing Gothik the first time and getting a mail frost resist helm and one set piece eats ass. If anything that resist gear should have its own drop slot and be similar to the bag in ZG - only a chance to drop instead of 100% of the time.

Had a similar experience with our first Faerlina kill.

A separate loot table for resist items is the way to go. That way when it drops, it's "hey cool, we got some extra loot" instead of "fuck resist gear, give us real loot instead".

Tuco · 08-01-2006, 07:37 AM

Going to be interesting to see if we will change our minds about resist gear once we learn what the Kel'Thuzad/Sapphiron encounters are like.

It could be very possible that we will be required to have everyone in nearly full resist gear to progress past these mobs.

Or it could be like me spending a weekend farming for NR gear on my priest and never using it in AQ =P

Kasonic · 08-01-2006, 07:42 AM

I saw Jeklik's Crusher, Thekal's Grasp, Band of Servitude, and Jin'do's Hexxer in one run last week. The last run we got the same drops minus the Crusher. Sucks to be you I guess.

From the short video I saw of the Kel'Thuzad encounter, the beginning at least is another zerg, which didn't seem to require any FrR.

Soygen · 08-01-2006, 07:50 AM

Kinda', sorta' off topic, but how much of Naxx is left to be cleared?

Tuco · 08-01-2006, 07:53 AM

3 bosses ( four horsemen/sapp/KelThuzad).

Dues Vox and Death and Taxes are the ones that far. Four Horsemen is taking quite a while(possibly longer than any other boss so far), but I'm betting sapphiron will take even longer, and Kel'Thuzad yet longer. My reasoning is that it may require you to farm frost gear to gear our everyone in it.

GiR · 08-01-2006, 08:13 AM

Wasn't Ikkinz the prerequisite for Uqua? God I fucking hated Uqua.

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Originally Posted by chu

We still clear AQ40 each week. It only takes a single night and if you're lucky to get a lagfree night, the zone is actually quite enjoyable (minus the gazillion packs after the emps of course).

Remove the gibpacks and AQ's fine!

Szlia · 08-01-2006, 08:23 AM

Nope as long as you could zone into Kod'Taz you could go all the way to Uqua though another zone (Yktt'a ??). The single group Ikkinz trials were a prereq for the 2 (or 3) Ikkinz raid trials.

Soygen · 08-01-2006, 08:26 AM

Yeah, it was later changed to just Ikkinz 4 raid and Uqua required for Qvic. Fuck I hated that expansion's zone names.

karisa · 08-01-2006, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sigurdur

That's what's required to be a good GM, anyone can be a shitty GM, look up on zul'jin, with the amazing GM who has revolutionized raiding by doing things like banning Feign Death on raids and giving Sulfuras' to druids. This guild is in BWL right now.

Hi,

The conversation you just gayed though was about how Grand Masters in chess are not attainable for 99.99% of people, even if they try really hard and devote a lot of time to it. While end game raiding lewts are available to anybody who loves mashing buttons for hours on end and can follow orders.

Yours faithfully,

Karisa

Murr · 08-01-2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sigurdur

If the expansion ships with nothing but 5/10-mans, and the top tier of them are tuned so hard that the casuals cry tears of blood, I'll giggle with joy as I clear them every lockout.

What if they have Decimate? Then you will die to every mob

Cybsled · 08-01-2006, 10:54 AM

I dont see the horsemen going down anytime soon. They are pretty WTF powerful.

Tuco · 08-01-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybsled

I dont see the horsemen going down anytime soon. They are pretty WTF powerful.

Do you know what anyone's progress is on them?

Wodin · 08-01-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuco

3 bosses ( four horsemen/sapp/KelThuzad).

Dues Vox and Death and Taxes are the ones that far. Four Horsemen is taking quite a while(possibly longer than any other boss so far), but I'm betting sapphiron will take even longer, and Kel'Thuzad yet longer. My reasoning is that it may require you to farm frost gear to gear our everyone in it.

Has Ret dropped Loatheb? I saw one of their priests wandering out of the LHC hearth point with a 4-stack of Mark of Mograine, so they're obviously working on the Four.

Tuco · 08-01-2006, 11:17 AM

Ret's progress is sekret sauce.

08-01-2006, 08:23 AM	#323 (permalink)
Szlia Conquest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,644 +25 Internets	Nope as long as you could zone into Kod'Taz you could go all the way to Uqua though another zone (Yktt'a ??). The single group Ikkinz trials were a prereq for the 2 (or 3) Ikkinz raid trials. __________________ -retrosabotage-

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Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 10,284 +49 Internets	I dont see the horsemen going down anytime soon. They are pretty WTF powerful. __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

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08-01-2006, 03:47 AM	#316 (permalink)
Kodylan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,261 -1 Internets	Yeah the older epics are a bit too rare in zg imo. We did it twice this weekend to equip some recruits that rerolled alliance from horde while our meet was going on and we had terrible drops tonight. Jin'do coughed up the goods though dropping the staff and mace in the same kill - fairly decent I guess. I think we've only seen one pair of the boots off the tiger boss and such. Anyway, the newer loot is a good thing though and gives a glimpse of what TBC encounters will probably be itemized like. It carries over into Naxx as well, I can't really say I have many gripes about the newer itemization and item design at all. HOWEVER, killing Gothik the first time and getting a mail frost resist helm and one set piece eats ass. If anything that resist gear should have its own drop slot and be similar to the bag in ZG - only a chance to drop instead of 100% of the time.

08-01-2006, 07:37 AM	#318 (permalink)
Tuco Forum Janitor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 10,723 +75 Internets	Going to be interesting to see if we will change our minds about resist gear once we learn what the Kel'Thuzad/Sapphiron encounters are like. It could be very possible that we will be required to have everyone in nearly full resist gear to progress past these mobs. Or it could be like me spending a weekend farming for NR gear on my priest and never using it in AQ =P

08-01-2006, 07:42 AM	#319 (permalink)
Kasonic dumb Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,627 +1 Internets	I saw Jeklik's Crusher, Thekal's Grasp, Band of Servitude, and Jin'do's Hexxer in one run last week. The last run we got the same drops minus the Crusher. Sucks to be you I guess. From the short video I saw of the Kel'Thuzad encounter, the beginning at least is another zerg, which didn't seem to require any FrR.

08-01-2006, 07:50 AM	#320 (permalink)
Soygen 100% Pure Soy Monk Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 7,448 +107 Internets	Kinda', sorta' off topic, but how much of Naxx is left to be cleared?

08-01-2006, 07:53 AM	#321 (permalink)
Tuco Forum Janitor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 10,723 +75 Internets	3 bosses ( four horsemen/sapp/KelThuzad). Dues Vox and Death and Taxes are the ones that far. Four Horsemen is taking quite a while(possibly longer than any other boss so far), but I'm betting sapphiron will take even longer, and Kel'Thuzad yet longer. My reasoning is that it may require you to farm frost gear to gear our everyone in it.

08-01-2006, 08:26 AM	#324 (permalink)
Soygen 100% Pure Soy Monk Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 7,448 +107 Internets	Yeah, it was later changed to just Ikkinz 4 raid and Uqua required for Qvic. Fuck I hated that expansion's zone names.

08-01-2006, 11:17 AM	#330 (permalink)
Tuco Forum Janitor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 10,723 +75 Internets	Ret's progress is sekret sauce.