Cross server bgs (re: group 11)

Exmonk · 07-15-2006, 01:13 AM

I know FoH is on Black Dragonflight now, but here is #'s for Hyjal and my server of Cenarius.

Battlegroup 11
Cenarius Ratio: 73%A/27%H
Cenarion Circle Ratio: 64%A/36%H
Hyjal Ratio: 62%A/38%H
Lightbringer Ratio: 67%A/33%H
Uther Ratio: 66%A/34%H

What was Blizz smoking?

WarderX · 07-15-2006, 01:50 AM

Bwahahahahahaha

what. the. fuck.

Dandain · 07-15-2006, 02:21 AM

Oh man, this 1.12 patch is the most hilarious shit ever.

Itzena · 07-15-2006, 02:35 AM

Oh noes, one part of the game sucks for the Alliance.
Quick, nerf windfury again!

Ameraves Loyalheart · 07-15-2006, 02:35 AM

My guild (well I don't play anymore) is on Khadgar, who is grouped with Black Dragonflight and these are the numbers somebody from the guild got.

Quote:

Realm Online TZ Type Alliance Horde A/H Activity Ratio Overall
Andorhal 03/06 EST PVP 3,831 (52%) 3,533 (48%) 1 : 1 7,364
Anetheron 03/06 EST PVP 4,325 (77%) 1,268 (23%) 1 : 1.1 5,593
Archimonde 12/04 CST PVP 6,854 (52%) 6,317 (48%) 1.5 : 1 13,171
Black Dragonflight 04/06 EST PVP 4,016 (67%) 2,019 (33%) 1 : 1 6,035
Dalaran 12/04 EST PVE 15,265 (69%) 7,011 (31%) 2.1 : 1 22,276
Dalvengyr 04/06 EST PVP 7,501 (52%) 7,043 (48%) 1.4 : 1 14,544
Dentarg 03/06 EST PVP 3,741 (42%) 5,207 (58%) 1 : 1 8,948
Duskwood 03/06 EST PVE 12,082 (77%) 3,626 (23%) 1.5 : 1 15,708
Executus 03/06 EST PVP 2,509 (46%) 2,899 (54%) 1 : 1.2 5,408
Haomarush 03/06 EST PVP 3,530 (51%) 3,380 (49%) 1.1 : 1 6,910
Khadgar 12/04 EST PVE 11,257 (65%) 6,000 (35%) 2 : 1 17,257
Mal'Ganis 12/04 CST PVP 9,441 (45%) 11,508 (55%) 1 : 1.3 20,949
Norgannon 04/06 EST PVE 10,237 (70%) 4,390 (30%) 2.2 : 1 14,627
Scilla 03/06 EST PVP 3,573 (44%) 4,518 (56%) 1 : 1 8,091
Steamwheedle Cartel 03/06 EST RP 13,352 (62%) 8,108 (38%) 1.9 : 1 21,460
Thrall 04/06 EST PVE 11,933 (52%) 11,013 (48%) 1.7 : 1 22,946
Turalyon 03/06 EST PVE 8,763 (66%) 4,492 (34%) 1.6 : 1 13,255
Ysera 03/06 EST PVE 6,534 (61%) 4,105 (39%) 1.2 : 1 10,639
Ysondre 03/06 EST PVP 1,795 (32%) 3,849 (68%) 1 : 1.1 5,644
Zuluhed 03/06 EST PVP 3,286 (52%) 3,049 (48%) 1.3 : 1 6,335

Totals
Alliance:
143,825

Horde:
103,332

Ratio:
58.19% Alliance : 41.81% Horde

Numbers came from http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php

Lambourne · 07-15-2006, 03:45 AM

It's actually even worse on the EU servers. There's over 40 EU servers with an alliance to horde ratio in excess of 2:1, and about half of those are over 2.5:1. (see server list sorted by ratio.

This change might actually make the queues worse if you are now on a server with a reasonably low A:H ratio, and you get lumped with some of those >2.5:1 servers.

An actual fix may be to let alliance and horde group up and guild with each other, and whenever 20 people sign up for WSG, throw them against each other.
The "war" between horde and alliance isn't exactly a core element of the game anymore (certainly not on PVE servers anyway). It reminds me of the 'evils only!' guilds EQ had at one point in it's (early) life, it's might be fun from a roleplaying point of view but in the end it's just not practical.

Itzena · 07-15-2006, 04:44 AM

An actual fix would be to stop fucking nerfing Horde Blizzard, you fucking cretins.

Murioz · 07-15-2006, 12:43 PM

Either that or just taking one of the horde populated servers off of each other BG group and tossing it in group 11.

Yermum Onceme · 07-15-2006, 12:51 PM

Nobody wants to play horde. That's the REAL problem.

Rezz · 07-15-2006, 05:15 PM

Ugly races, gimped pvp/pve and trolls don't have fucking shoes.

Canceled and waiting for tbc to roll around so I can make a draenei and not be gayed up like horde is.

Tuco · 07-15-2006, 05:21 PM

Blizzard has been touting inter-server BGs as the cure for woes. It's so ludicrous.

The only answer this late in the game is inter-faction BGs.

Etadanik · 07-15-2006, 05:24 PM

To be fair, Blizzard wasn't the ones who started touting the idea. I recall a certain movement on this very board (and the corresponding movement on WoW General) positing that cross-server BGs are the way to go.

Exmonk · 07-15-2006, 05:29 PM

Yes but balancing servers a bit better would be nice?

Dynalisia · 07-15-2006, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exmonk

Yes but balancing servers a bit better would be nice?

And you have the ultimate solution I'm sure?

Olio · 07-15-2006, 08:30 PM

They're most likely grouped by backend database server cluster. At the very least they are grouped by being in the same data centers. I doubt they'll grab arbitrary servers and throw them into 11 to balance things out.

07-15-2006, 01:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Exmonk Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 154 +0 Internets	Cross server bgs (re: group 11) I know FoH is on Black Dragonflight now, but here is #'s for Hyjal and my server of Cenarius. Battlegroup 11 Cenarius Ratio: 73%A/27%H Cenarion Circle Ratio: 64%A/36%H Hyjal Ratio: 62%A/38%H Lightbringer Ratio: 67%A/33%H Uther Ratio: 66%A/34%H What was Blizz smoking?

07-15-2006, 02:35 AM	#4 (permalink)
Itzena SOS-dan #76564674 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Near a big fucking castle, the UK Posts: 5,875 -19 Internets	Oh noes, one part of the game sucks for the Alliance. Quick, nerf windfury again! __________________

07-15-2006, 03:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
Lambourne There can be only win Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 'yurp' Posts: 184 +2 Internets	It's actually even worse on the EU servers. There's over 40 EU servers with an alliance to horde ratio in excess of 2:1, and about half of those are over 2.5:1. (see server list sorted by ratio. This change might actually make the queues worse if you are now on a server with a reasonably low A:H ratio, and you get lumped with some of those >2.5:1 servers. An actual fix may be to let alliance and horde group up and guild with each other, and whenever 20 people sign up for WSG, throw them against each other. The "war" between horde and alliance isn't exactly a core element of the game anymore (certainly not on PVE servers anyway). It reminds me of the 'evils only!' guilds EQ had at one point in it's (early) life, it's might be fun from a roleplaying point of view but in the end it's just not practical. __________________ < United Kingdoms > EQ: Antonius Bayle - WoW: EU-Terenas - AoC: EU-Dagon

07-15-2006, 04:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
Itzena SOS-dan #76564674 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Near a big fucking castle, the UK Posts: 5,875 -19 Internets	An actual fix would be to stop fucking nerfing Horde Blizzard, you fucking cretins. __________________

07-15-2006, 12:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Murioz Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 31 -1 Internets	Either that or just taking one of the horde populated servers off of each other BG group and tossing it in group 11. __________________ Jakkii -- 60 Warrior

07-15-2006, 01:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
WarderX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,593 +1 Internets	Bwahahahahahaha what. the. fuck.

07-15-2006, 02:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
Dandain Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 284 +1 Internets	Oh man, this 1.12 patch is the most hilarious shit ever.

07-15-2006, 12:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Yermum Onceme Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PA Posts: 1,523 +0 Internets	Nobody wants to play horde. That's the REAL problem.

07-15-2006, 05:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
Rezz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,255 -1 Internets	Ugly races, gimped pvp/pve and trolls don't have fucking shoes. Canceled and waiting for tbc to roll around so I can make a draenei and not be gayed up like horde is. __________________ Jesus on the dashboard, Whenever it feels right.

07-15-2006, 05:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
Tuco Forum Janitor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 8,080 +14 Internets	Blizzard has been touting inter-server BGs as the cure for woes. It's so ludicrous. The only answer this late in the game is inter-faction BGs. __________________ Arthur's Hall: A Forum for men.

07-15-2006, 05:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
Etadanik Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,643 +0 Internets	To be fair, Blizzard wasn't the ones who started touting the idea. I recall a certain movement on this very board (and the corresponding movement on WoW General) positing that cross-server BGs are the way to go.

07-15-2006, 05:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
Exmonk Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 154 +0 Internets	Yes but balancing servers a bit better would be nice?

07-15-2006, 08:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
Olio Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 384 -1 Internets	They're most likely grouped by backend database server cluster. At the very least they are grouped by being in the same data centers. I doubt they'll grab arbitrary servers and throw them into 11 to balance things out.

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