World PvP preview [WoW]

Drauk · 07-13-2006, 04:34 AM

http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/718/718310p1.html

Welcome to un-instanced battlegrounds.

Zehn - Vhex · 07-13-2006, 04:41 AM

Well..kinda lame I guess. The silithus thing is meh'ish, not really an objective so much as "Collect 30 thorium nod....syllithist nodes and get a buff!"

After the first few weeks of the EPL thing, the only time the towers will ever change ownership is when an uberguild decides to wafflestomp them quick for a pre-raid buff then it'll go back to whatever faction has population dominance.

Caz · 07-13-2006, 04:49 AM

sounds pretty lame

kuldiin · 07-13-2006, 04:52 AM

Havent played in ages, but used to love the fights around crossroads, stranglethorn etc.

Not talking about the rogue ganking gayness, but the 10vs10 type battles all around the areas.

Battlegrounds were just boring, and cant say I missed it when I cancelled

Caz · 07-13-2006, 05:00 AM

decent post here http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...=1#post9035382 I tend to agree with the OP but faction bonuses would have to be put in place to not cater to one faction that can just zerg everything to death.

Too bad, you can't just fly into a madhouse like it was back in the day flying into TM. I'm not saying it won't, but running around collecting "dust" and other lame shit, in one of the furtherest away zones, sounds incredibly uneventful.

spentmotiff · 07-13-2006, 05:57 AM

I don't know, for me it sounds like a...start.

They have mentioned that they are going to expand on world PvP in TBC and hopefully we see more implementation in the new zones.

All in all, it sounds pretty cool though and will give the PvPers something different then running the same 3 BGs. I guess it will depend on how much honor is given for holding the objectives to see how popular it becomes.

I agree with the people who would have liked to see it tied with a faction though, and additional PvP rewards. Besides that, I like the idea of a zone-wide buff.

DisgruntledOrangatang · 07-13-2006, 06:08 AM

hey its better than nothing and frankly I dont see whats wrong with it, if you chose to participate then you gain something, if you dont you lose nothing. Nor does your faction lose anything if they lose control of these areas. So really its a decent start. They need to add objectives all over the world though, even in low level zones. Part of the fun is being low lvl and seeing these massive battles take place right near you, and part of the motivation sometimes for going there is to defend low lvls of you faction because wtf are these 60 guys pwning lowbies just trying to lvl. I really hate how they water it down to that level that stuff like that won't happen.

Faith · 07-13-2006, 06:11 AM

Yes its a start. Anything beside instanced BGs is an improvment.

Lenaldo · 07-13-2006, 06:19 AM

Didn't read it... but is there honor bonuses for being involved in these events? if not they will be completely desolate after the first week.

Abalieno · 07-13-2006, 06:23 AM

Blizzard will NEVER get PvP right.

There. I've said it. They started with horrible design (post-launch with the Honor system, before it was great), and they will never get out of that hole they digged.

Qhue · 07-13-2006, 06:28 AM

digged?

Grimmlokk · 07-13-2006, 06:36 AM

He meant dugged.

Gid · 07-13-2006, 06:42 AM

The first thing that struck me was the strange choice of two very out-of-the-way zones. I was expecting something much more wide ranging and covering a lot of the zones that people actually use rather than just travelling through on their way to an instance. Silithus in particular is a pain to get to.

Ukerric · 07-13-2006, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

Well..kinda lame I guess. The silithus thing is meh'ish, not really an objective so much as "Collect 30 thorium nod....syllithist nodes and get a buff!"

In case the screenshot wasn't a dead giveaway, the real question for the Silithus gathering is:

- Is the alliance collector NPC called "Duke Leto" and the horde one "Rabban", or is it the reverse?

Dyscord · 07-13-2006, 06:59 AM

The dust must flow!

I think the overall design decision on these comes from trying to spread out the pvp. They aren't aiming for the massive battlelines of TM days. This is probably more about 5 on 5 small pitched battles around the zone.

Quite frankly, we need another TM. Ever since they idiotically decided to remove guards from AV without implmenting some sort of 'locked in' capture order, there aren't any 'big battle' kind of areas.

But seriously, I don't give a damn about what they're doing to world pvp. For the love of god tell us you're completely removing the current honor system. Telling us about world pvp but not about the honor system is like telling a cancer patient about how they're going to cure his indigestion.

07-13-2006, 04:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
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07-13-2006, 06:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
DisgruntledOrangatang Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,399	hey its better than nothing and frankly I dont see whats wrong with it, if you chose to participate then you gain something, if you dont you lose nothing. Nor does your faction lose anything if they lose control of these areas. So really its a decent start. They need to add objectives all over the world though, even in low level zones. Part of the fun is being low lvl and seeing these massive battles take place right near you, and part of the motivation sometimes for going there is to defend low lvls of you faction because wtf are these 60 guys pwning lowbies just trying to lvl. I really hate how they water it down to that level that stuff like that won't happen. __________________ "Talk all you want, but when I say I'm going to kill you, there's nothing you can do but die"

07-13-2006, 06:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
Abalieno Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 397 +0 Internets	Blizzard will NEVER get PvP right. There. I've said it. They started with horrible design (post-launch with the Honor system, before it was great), and they will never get out of that hole they digged. __________________ -HRose / Abalieno cesspit.net

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Grimmlokk The Clam before the Storm Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,078 +46 Internets	He meant dugged. __________________ Hey man, I guess it's worth it if I can help one little white girl learn the difference between a black man and a refrigerator. - Walter

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07-13-2006, 04:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
Zehn - Vhex Lord of the Dance Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,796 +166 Internets	Well..kinda lame I guess. The silithus thing is meh'ish, not really an objective so much as "Collect 30 thorium nod....syllithist nodes and get a buff!" After the first few weeks of the EPL thing, the only time the towers will ever change ownership is when an uberguild decides to wafflestomp them quick for a pre-raid buff then it'll go back to whatever faction has population dominance.

07-13-2006, 04:49 AM	#3 (permalink)
Caz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 22 +0 Internets	sounds pretty lame

07-13-2006, 04:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
kuldiin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 171	Havent played in ages, but used to love the fights around crossroads, stranglethorn etc. Not talking about the rogue ganking gayness, but the 10vs10 type battles all around the areas. Battlegrounds were just boring, and cant say I missed it when I cancelled

07-13-2006, 05:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
Caz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 22 +0 Internets	decent post here http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...=1#post9035382 I tend to agree with the OP but faction bonuses would have to be put in place to not cater to one faction that can just zerg everything to death. Too bad, you can't just fly into a madhouse like it was back in the day flying into TM. I'm not saying it won't, but running around collecting "dust" and other lame shit, in one of the furtherest away zones, sounds incredibly uneventful.

07-13-2006, 05:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
spentmotiff Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 861 +1 Internets	I don't know, for me it sounds like a...start. They have mentioned that they are going to expand on world PvP in TBC and hopefully we see more implementation in the new zones. All in all, it sounds pretty cool though and will give the PvPers something different then running the same 3 BGs. I guess it will depend on how much honor is given for holding the objectives to see how popular it becomes. I agree with the people who would have liked to see it tied with a faction though, and additional PvP rewards. Besides that, I like the idea of a zone-wide buff.

07-13-2006, 06:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
Faith Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 430 -2 Internets	Yes its a start. Anything beside instanced BGs is an improvment.

07-13-2006, 06:19 AM	#9 (permalink)
Lenaldo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,441 -21 Internets	Didn't read it... but is there honor bonuses for being involved in these events? if not they will be completely desolate after the first week.

07-13-2006, 06:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
Qhue Tunare's most surly gnome Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sunny Upstate NY Posts: 1,498	digged?

07-13-2006, 06:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
Gid Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 77 +0 Internets	The first thing that struck me was the strange choice of two very out-of-the-way zones. I was expecting something much more wide ranging and covering a lot of the zones that people actually use rather than just travelling through on their way to an instance. Silithus in particular is a pain to get to.

07-13-2006, 06:59 AM	#15 (permalink)
Dyscord Harvey Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Command Carrier Posts: 2,181 +38 Internets	The dust must flow! I think the overall design decision on these comes from trying to spread out the pvp. They aren't aiming for the massive battlelines of TM days. This is probably more about 5 on 5 small pitched battles around the zone. Quite frankly, we need another TM. Ever since they idiotically decided to remove guards from AV without implmenting some sort of 'locked in' capture order, there aren't any 'big battle' kind of areas. But seriously, I don't give a damn about what they're doing to world pvp. For the love of god tell us you're completely removing the current honor system. Telling us about world pvp but not about the honor system is like telling a cancer patient about how they're going to cure his indigestion.