New VG vid - Page 4

Eomer · 07-03-2006, 11:06 AM

I can't confirm this since I got the boot from beta for posting here, but I'm pretty sure that video was made with the old animation technology (and I'm not even sure if the new tech is in the game yet). The poor animation is a known and acknowledged issue.

Kasonic · 07-03-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Esmo

Currently that do not plan on that kind of functionality. Brad dislikes the amount of flexibility WoW's UI provides. Basically - he wants less sandbox and more theme park influenced design for the UI. About all Sigil wants people to be able to do is change parameters/settings - no addons at all.

How amazingly lame. You can keep WoW's customizability while keeping a constant UI visual theme; most WoW ones do anyway.

MrKrueger · 07-03-2006, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasonic

How amazingly lame. You can keep WoW's customizability while keeping a constant UI visual theme; most WoW ones do anyway.

I always thought that Vanguard's UI customization would be along the level of EQ1's. You could make it look pretty much anyway you wanted, but generally, everyone will have the same functionality more or less. Not like WoW's where there are AddOn's that automate certain functions, or change how other functions work, etc.

Soygen · 07-03-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MrKrueger

I always thought that Vanguard's UI customization would be along the level of EQ1's. You could make it look pretty much anyway you wanted, but generally, everyone will have the same functionality more or less. Not like WoW's where there are AddOn's that automate certain functions, or change how other functions work, etc.

Pretty sure that's what it's going to be like.

Etadanik · 07-03-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MrKrueger

I always thought that Vanguard's UI customization would be along the level of EQ1's. You could make it look pretty much anyway you wanted, but generally, everyone will have the same functionality more or less. Not like WoW's where there are AddOn's that automate certain functions, or change how other functions work, etc.

And that's the way it should be. There is no fucking reason why you should have to download a THIRD PARTY UI in order to play the game at the level everyone else is. That the default UI is not even a viable option due to its lack of functionality is just plain laziness on the developer's part and should in no way be excused as "adding customizability for teh players!11!!" Yeah, if you allow the players to design your game, you're adding customizability alright. But then why should we pay you?

And as Blizzard's attempts to mitigate the effects of Decursive shows, it's even detrimental to the developers when you have to take into account third party programs (some of which are on the level of hacks/cheats) in order to balance your game.

Nazbuk · 07-03-2006, 12:49 PM

I'm not trying to knock on the game but it looked like Shadowbane. Don't get me wrong. I liked Shadowbane, but...I mean really. Why don't they just release the game as is so they can start making money off the nitch market this is going to be.

Roxy · 07-03-2006, 01:23 PM

too much brown!!

Neric · 07-03-2006, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mir

TKing doesnt work anymore. Brad explained, I think here even, It was something about how it wasnt working anymore with TKing not being in house at the Sigil studios, but he wasn't willing to relocate so they had to stop working together.

Lol, how ridiculous! I wonder where he was located when he designed the old UIs which were certainly "good enough".

nyx · 07-03-2006, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nazbuk

I'm not trying to knock on the game but it looked like Shadowbane. Don't get me wrong. I liked Shadowbane, but...I mean really. Why don't they just release the game as is so they can start making money off the nitch market this is going to be.

What are you smoking? Shadowbane indeed...

FohMD · 07-03-2006, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer

I can't confirm this since I got the boot from beta for posting here, but I'm pretty sure that video was made with the old animation technology (and I'm not even sure if the new tech is in the game yet). The poor animation is a known and acknowledged issue.

You got kicked from beta for blabbing on this board?!? Yikes!

(There goes yet another one of Utnayan's/Neric's/Rayne's theories.)

Nazbuk · 07-03-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nyx

What are you smoking? Shadowbane indeed...

That's just my impression. I think it does. With worse sound effects. But whatever. I can't wait for this game to come out in hopes it will cleanse my server of some of the emo trash that likes pain and suffering in an MMO.

Soygen · 07-03-2006, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nazbuk

That's just my impression. I think it does. With worse sound effects. But whatever. I can't wait for this game to come out in hopes it will cleanse my server of some of the emo trash that likes pain and suffering in an MMO.

I'm not a big fan of Vanguard's visuals, but to say it looks like Shadowbane borders on laughable. Me thinks you need to go look at some Shadowbane screenshots and refresh your memory.

Azeth · 07-03-2006, 02:26 PM

looks fine

<--- will owe them $15/month once it's released

Esmo · 07-03-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Azeth

looks fine

<--- will owe them $15/month once it's released

I'm curious what their price structure will be now with SoE in the picture (not that we knew before...).

nogi · 07-04-2006, 12:32 AM

i think it is a poor thing to design the player+group windows almost identical to wow. never would have done that. it is just a detail and for the game itself it means nothing really but for ppl that see it (and know wow) it sets the mind to like "it is ripping off stuff".

07-03-2006, 12:49 PM	#51 (permalink)
Nazbuk MC 900 Foot Jesus Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Birmingham Posts: 861	I'm not trying to knock on the game but it looked like Shadowbane. Don't get me wrong. I liked Shadowbane, but...I mean really. Why don't they just release the game as is so they can start making money off the nitch market this is going to be. __________________ Nazbuk "Just once I'd love to see a modern-day Square RPG where the women don't look like 12-year-old, quasi-Asian schoolgirls and the men don't look like 12-year-old, quasi-Asian schoolgirls." -Millie

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07-03-2006, 11:06 AM	#46 (permalink)
Eomer You mean I can change this? Neat! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,763 +26 Internets	I can't confirm this since I got the boot from beta for posting here, but I'm pretty sure that video was made with the old animation technology (and I'm not even sure if the new tech is in the game yet). The poor animation is a known and acknowledged issue.

07-03-2006, 01:23 PM	#52 (permalink)
Roxy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 34 +0 Internets	too much brown!!

07-03-2006, 02:26 PM	#58 (permalink)
Azeth Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 91 +0 Internets	looks fine <--- will owe them $15/month once it's released

07-04-2006, 12:32 AM	#60 (permalink)
nogi Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 15 +0 Internets	i think it is a poor thing to design the player+group windows almost identical to wow. never would have done that. it is just a detail and for the game itself it means nothing really but for ppl that see it (and know wow) it sets the mind to like "it is ripping off stuff".