AQ season recap - Page 3

WarderX · 06-20-2006, 08:43 AM

When I posted this last night I could have sworn I made it a poll. Infact, i'm almost positive I did... odd... Maybe I fell alseep in between those two things.

Sorry if the OP seems pointless.

Gauss · 06-20-2006, 08:46 AM

I think everyone in a raiding guild subconsciously realizes that going into Naxxramas tonight basically will end in a night of frustration because of every raiding guild on the server cramming into the place. What choice do we have though, really? Oh, and as to the question first posed in this thread: We're putting AQ/BWL on haitus until we can determine whether going there is worth it, depending on how fast we progress in Naxx, so there is a chance we will not be running AQ/BWL again

Elidrin · 06-20-2006, 08:51 AM

I wouldn't shed a tear if I never stepped foot back in AQ for the duration of my WoW career. But it would be foolish to not clear it on a regular basis, even with Naxx out, atleast for a while.

Dyscord · 06-20-2006, 08:52 AM

BWL will remain a viable raid zone untill the expansion. It takes only 2 and a half hours to clear it if you're top shelf, it nets over 30g worth of cash from the bosses, and the loot is still highly desireable.

AQ however. Is ass. In every aspect of the word. ASS ASS ASS ASS. Even with every mob on complete farm status, we still can't clear it in one night (although we seem to be cursed and keep wiping to ouro by the end of the first day). Its probably because after the emps its an hour or so of mindnumbing incredibly hard trash pulls that are harder than the first bosses of the zone. Either way, there's simply something about the zone that is incredibly painful. The encounters *should* be fun. But they're not. The loot *should* be good. Its DEFINATLEY not. Everything about the zone just doesn't... feel right. I feel a lot happier even zoning into MC to clear it for the billionth time than I do zoning into AQ.

Simply put, almost everything about the zone leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Cybsled · 06-20-2006, 09:02 AM

The AQ boss fights are, for the most part, pretty solid. C'Thun is definately my favorite.

The reason I dread AQ, though, is

a) Long ass runs after you wipe...CThun especially, I've fucking fallen asleep while on /follow because it took so damn long even on mounts. Although supposedly thats fixed in 1.11

b) Trash that takes forever to clear. Post Emps is the worst. For the love of Jaina's unborn half-orc child, reduce the amount of bug packs. Honestly, you don't need alot of trash. The challenge of beating the first couple trash pulls turns into tedium when you have to repeat it another 10 times.

Man0warr · 06-20-2006, 09:12 AM

We have cleared AQ in 1 night, we didn't wipe once though, thats the key. Took us about 4 hours.

Wiping is what causes AQ to take so long, especially on Ouro/C'thun, fuck running back

Elidrin · 06-20-2006, 09:33 AM

We also clear AQ in one night. BWL will be a viable zone I guess for guilds that haven't been raiding all that long. For well established progression guilds it's been turned into the Alt/App zone.

Fendryl · 06-20-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Elidrin

We also clear AQ in one night. BWL will be a viable zone I guess for guilds that haven't been raiding all that long. For well established progression guilds it's been turned into the Alt/App zone.

Ya but with Ragnoros still having T2 legs, your alt/apps can pretty much give up any hope for 8 pc T2. They really need to make a way to go straight to Ragnoros, add a new BWL encounter, or just add T2 legs to BWL tables somehow.

Kodylan · 06-20-2006, 10:05 AM

The reason there's so much trash between twin emps and ouro is it's the trash for two bosses.

Elidrin · 06-20-2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fendryl

Ya but with Ragnoros still having T2 legs, your alt/apps can pretty much give up any hope for 8 pc T2. They really need to make a way to go straight to Ragnoros, add a new BWL encounter, or just add T2 legs to BWL tables somehow.

Believe me, I understand what you're saying. Having T2 legs on the end boss of an instance full of T1 drops is ridiculous.

Esmo · 06-20-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Elidrin

Believe me, I understand what you're saying. Having T2 legs on the end boss of an instance full of T1 drops is ridiculous.

It's not as fast as Ony but for an AQ40 guild it only takes 2 hours to get to Rag. 2 hours once a week for your apps isn't all that bad. Having said that, I would not mind at all if pants were moved from Rag to BWL.

Turn one of the trash pulls between Firemaw and Ebon into a leg-dropping boss.

bosch · 06-20-2006, 11:48 AM

My guild re-rolled from alliance to horde on a new server.

We're up to Vael. My concern is that I hope we don't need to go into AQ40 to get experience or gear in order to break into Naxx....(not to mention AQ isn't even open yet). My hopes are that we can farm BWL enough to break into Naxx and we won't need AQ at all.

Tuco · 06-20-2006, 02:17 PM

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We're up to Vael. My concern is that I hope we don't need to go into AQ40 to get experience or gear in order to break into Naxx....(not to mention AQ isn't even open yet). My hopes are that we can farm BWL enough to break into Naxx and we won't need AQ at all.

Once you get BWL on farm mode, you may as well get AQ on farm mode too.

But yeah, if a guild theoritically had BWL on farm mode for 8 months or so, AQ wouldn't be crucial to doing Naxx.

chu · 06-20-2006, 03:03 PM

Any guild that has players that actually pvp will not stop doing aq40. They'd be retarded to do it as it offers some of the best pvp gear in the game.

DisgruntledOrangatang · 06-20-2006, 04:05 PM

What they should do is offer a quest from the hydraxian waterlords where if you can get 5 people to exalted, you can use some summoing portal shit in MC to summon in an army of hydraxian warriors that in about 5 minutes clear everything out (including bosses, and no loot drops of course) minus domo and rags.

06-20-2006, 08:46 AM	#32 (permalink)
Gauss Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 942 +9 Internets	I think everyone in a raiding guild subconsciously realizes that going into Naxxramas tonight basically will end in a night of frustration because of every raiding guild on the server cramming into the place. What choice do we have though, really? Oh, and as to the question first posed in this thread: We're putting AQ/BWL on haitus until we can determine whether going there is worth it, depending on how fast we progress in Naxx, so there is a chance we will not be running AQ/BWL again __________________ Gauss <Retribution>, Zikel Aion

06-20-2006, 08:51 AM	#33 (permalink)
Elidrin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 556	I wouldn't shed a tear if I never stepped foot back in AQ for the duration of my WoW career. But it would be foolish to not clear it on a regular basis, even with Naxx out, atleast for a while. __________________ Avelle Midgardsormr Avelle < Risen > Ner'Zhul - Retired Elidrin 65 Ranger Lanys T'Vyl - Retired

06-20-2006, 09:02 AM	#35 (permalink)
Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 10,282 +49 Internets	The AQ boss fights are, for the most part, pretty solid. C'Thun is definately my favorite. The reason I dread AQ, though, is a) Long ass runs after you wipe...CThun especially, I've fucking fallen asleep while on /follow because it took so damn long even on mounts. Although supposedly thats fixed in 1.11 b) Trash that takes forever to clear. Post Emps is the worst. For the love of Jaina's unborn half-orc child, reduce the amount of bug packs. Honestly, you don't need alot of trash. The challenge of beating the first couple trash pulls turns into tedium when you have to repeat it another 10 times. __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

06-20-2006, 09:12 AM	#36 (permalink)
Man0warr Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,601	We have cleared AQ in 1 night, we didn't wipe once though, thats the key. Took us about 4 hours. Wiping is what causes AQ to take so long, especially on Ouro/C'thun, fuck running back __________________ Manowarr - Ranger - Dominus Letum

06-20-2006, 09:33 AM	#37 (permalink)
Elidrin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 556	We also clear AQ in one night. BWL will be a viable zone I guess for guilds that haven't been raiding all that long. For well established progression guilds it's been turned into the Alt/App zone. __________________ Avelle Midgardsormr Avelle < Risen > Ner'Zhul - Retired Elidrin 65 Ranger Lanys T'Vyl - Retired

06-20-2006, 08:43 AM	#31 (permalink)
WarderX Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,593 +2 Internets	When I posted this last night I could have sworn I made it a poll. Infact, i'm almost positive I did... odd... Maybe I fell alseep in between those two things. Sorry if the OP seems pointless.

06-20-2006, 08:52 AM	#34 (permalink)
Dyscord Harvey Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Command Carrier Posts: 2,181 +38 Internets	BWL will remain a viable raid zone untill the expansion. It takes only 2 and a half hours to clear it if you're top shelf, it nets over 30g worth of cash from the bosses, and the loot is still highly desireable. AQ however. Is ass. In every aspect of the word. ASS ASS ASS ASS. Even with every mob on complete farm status, we still can't clear it in one night (although we seem to be cursed and keep wiping to ouro by the end of the first day). Its probably because after the emps its an hour or so of mindnumbing incredibly hard trash pulls that are harder than the first bosses of the zone. Either way, there's simply something about the zone that is incredibly painful. The encounters should be fun. But they're not. The loot should be good. Its DEFINATLEY not. Everything about the zone just doesn't... feel right. I feel a lot happier even zoning into MC to clear it for the billionth time than I do zoning into AQ. Simply put, almost everything about the zone leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

06-20-2006, 10:05 AM	#39 (permalink)
Kodylan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,261 -1 Internets	The reason there's so much trash between twin emps and ouro is it's the trash for two bosses.

06-20-2006, 11:48 AM	#42 (permalink)
bosch Huntard Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 141 +1 Internets	My guild re-rolled from alliance to horde on a new server. We're up to Vael. My concern is that I hope we don't need to go into AQ40 to get experience or gear in order to break into Naxx....(not to mention AQ isn't even open yet). My hopes are that we can farm BWL enough to break into Naxx and we won't need AQ at all. __________________ Bosch - Fusion Boscher - Eve

06-20-2006, 03:03 PM	#44 (permalink)
chu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,465 -63 Internets	Any guild that has players that actually pvp will not stop doing aq40. They'd be retarded to do it as it offers some of the best pvp gear in the game.

06-20-2006, 04:05 PM	#45 (permalink)
DisgruntledOrangatang Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,399	What they should do is offer a quest from the hydraxian waterlords where if you can get 5 people to exalted, you can use some summoing portal shit in MC to summon in an army of hydraxian warriors that in about 5 minutes clear everything out (including bosses, and no loot drops of course) minus domo and rags. __________________ "Talk all you want, but when I say I'm going to kill you, there's nothing you can do but die"

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