Its good to be a game dev? - Page 2

Jerkinder · 05-30-2006, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Surlok TP

I love how the whole EA thing is such an atrocity, I have been working as a Framer/Carpenter/Finishing wood worker, for the past 10 years. The whole EA thing is pretty tame compared to the treament I recieved from some of my past employeers.

No one really gives a shit about tradesfolk though, as we are all apperently in-bred morons who only do this stuff cause we dropped out of high school or are ex-cons or some other such BS. Happens to someone who went to college for X number of years and everyone flips out. Happens to a guy that spent an equal amount of time doing hard labour to learn his trade and everyone just shrugs it off.

and the irony is, he lives in vancouver... and there are commercials on both tv and radio about how great it is to be in the trades... i guess it would be good if you are the boss

Northerner · 05-30-2006, 12:59 AM

I know a number of tradespeople that seem to make pretty damn good cash and don't get fucked half as badly as a some developers do. Everyone is biased of course but I can think of two ex-IT guys (both with degrees) who gave that shit up for welding and oilsands work respectively. Neither seem to mind the 12 hour days when you are actually getting paid for them.

Not saying that the grass is greener, just that everyone gets screwed one way or the other.

Dyvim · 05-30-2006, 09:46 AM

I'd be willing to bet that the people whining about how sucky it is to be a game developer at a company like EA or Blizz haven't worked in the games industry beyond a possible 2 month stint in QA.

Tabris · 05-30-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Surlok TP

No one really gives a shit about tradesfolk though, as we are all apperently in-bred morons who only do this stuff cause we dropped out of high school or are ex-cons or some other such BS. Happens to someone who went to college for X number of years and everyone flips out. Happens to a guy that spent an equal amount of time doing hard labour to learn his trade and everyone just shrugs it off.

Don't be a dumb fuck and unionize then.

Bizanich · 05-30-2006, 12:04 PM

So, is crap like this good for a game's rep/players/overall enjoyment factor, or is it a laughable display of unprofessionalism?

Serious query.

Samus Aran · 05-30-2006, 12:18 PM

There's no such thing as bad publicity.

Itzena · 05-30-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gryphe

There's no such thing as bad publicity.

Just ask SOE about all the 'free publicity' they got for the NGE revamp of SWG!

Samus Aran · 05-30-2006, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Itzena

Just ask SOE about all the 'free publicity' they got for the NGE revamp of SWG!

You're probably right...though I suspect those who didn't like the change would have left with or without the articles about the revamp.

I really just wanted to show off my new sig.

Rythonn · 05-30-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gryphe

I really just wanted to show off my new sig.

Haha priceless... good catch sir.

Iannis · 05-30-2006, 07:59 PM

It was hidden in a made-up language that (I don't think) the creators ever released keys to. Amateur cryptographers deciphered it. Those dudes who actually enjoy to do the cryptquotes in the comics. Those dudes who thought 11th Hour was better than the origional. Used to be I would have argued with my last breath against people like that existing, but then I met one.

Given all that personally I think it's just funny. Nothing about it strikes me as unprofessional. 99.9% of the people who look at those things are never going to "get the joke". It wouldn't even occur to 99.8% of the people who look at those things that there's a joke to be got.

Utnayan · 05-30-2006, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rythonn

Haha priceless... good catch sir.

What's funny is it is the truth.

Some of you faggots really do not have a clue who really is in charge of some of the games that get a green light or get fucked in the ass. I am surprised Gryphe, my new little puppy trailing me around the forum now, didn't throw it in 50 point bold font to boot.

Wake the fuck up kids. Because that quote, in a lot of gaming companies at the moment, is unfortunately true. You have people without any game design experience in charge of production schedules. You have people without any game design experience in charge of what will get the go ahead for development and what won't. Basically, you have upper management who come from completely different industries and do not understand one cotton picking thing about game development, the market, or anything else - with their Masters degrees in Business Administration with a concentration in Masterbation - and have little to no common sense about what will really sell a game, what developmental ideas should go into a game, and how to treat their employees.

Gathering of Developers tried to improve upon it, and unfortunately they had a hard time. Either way, game workers who are behind the development need someone to back their ass one of these days before people that make really good games say fuck it and move on into developing GPS software.

Samus Aran · 05-30-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Utnayan

I am surprised Gryphe, my new little puppy trailing me around the forum now, didn't throw it in 50 point bold font to boot.

Would you "get it" if I did?

aychamo_aycono · 05-30-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Surlok TP

I love how the whole EA thing is such an atrocity, I have been working as a Framer/Carpenter/Finishing wood worker, for the past 10 years. The whole EA thing is pretty tame compared to the treament I recieved from some of my past employeers.

No one really gives a shit about tradesfolk though, as we are all apperently in-bred morons who only do this stuff cause we dropped out of high school or are ex-cons or some other such BS. Happens to someone who went to college for X number of years and everyone flips out. Happens to a guy that spent an equal amount of time doing hard labour to learn his trade and everyone just shrugs it off.

I actually have tons of respect for you guys. My parents built a house recently and I went every single day to see the progress, etc. And it is amazing how everything goes together. I wouldn't think that I could *ever* build a square door, and they frame an entire house in just a few days.

And especially the finishing woodwork. They had very extensive detail work done (14' carved doors, etc), and the artistry and perfection it takes to do that is indeed a talent and not something that I think I could *ever* learn. I'm lucky to cut a piece of wood using a straight edge and a jig saw.

Rythonn · 05-30-2006, 11:38 PM

The irony is killing me.

Magnum PI · 05-31-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by aychamo_aycono

...that is indeed a talent and not something that I think I could *ever* learn. I'm lucky to cut a piece of wood using a straight edge and a jig saw.

When the time comes Dr. I want you to do my vasectomy.

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05-30-2006, 12:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
Northerner Shiny Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Calgary Posts: 994 -11 Internets	I know a number of tradespeople that seem to make pretty damn good cash and don't get fucked half as badly as a some developers do. Everyone is biased of course but I can think of two ex-IT guys (both with degrees) who gave that shit up for welding and oilsands work respectively. Neither seem to mind the 12 hour days when you are actually getting paid for them. Not saying that the grass is greener, just that everyone gets screwed one way or the other.

05-30-2006, 12:04 PM	#20 (permalink)
Bizanich Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,598 +0 Internets	So, is crap like this good for a game's rep/players/overall enjoyment factor, or is it a laughable display of unprofessionalism? Serious query.

05-30-2006, 12:18 PM	#21 (permalink)
Samus Aran Sons of the Storm Heal Bitch Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 771 +1 Internets	There's no such thing as bad publicity.

05-30-2006, 07:59 PM	#25 (permalink)
Iannis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Butt Hugging Moose Jockey Posts: 4,968 +0 Internets	It was hidden in a made-up language that (I don't think) the creators ever released keys to. Amateur cryptographers deciphered it. Those dudes who actually enjoy to do the cryptquotes in the comics. Those dudes who thought 11th Hour was better than the origional. Used to be I would have argued with my last breath against people like that existing, but then I met one. Given all that personally I think it's just funny. Nothing about it strikes me as unprofessional. 99.9% of the people who look at those things are never going to "get the joke". It wouldn't even occur to 99.8% of the people who look at those things that there's a joke to be got.

05-30-2006, 11:38 PM	#29 (permalink)
Rythonn Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,666	The irony is killing me.