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Old 05-19-2006, 08:47 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I'm sure that the way this will work is that you can worship whatever diety you wish, regardless of race. The reason I think this is because of the vast amount of roleplayers who rp DE's who betrayed to Qeynos and now follow Erollosi Marr or Quellious in order to show peace, etc. I think the RP'ers would be pretty upset if they've been rping their character to follow a different god and then have to pick one from a list instead =/
I bet they'll let you choose either any god or good+neutral gods for qeynos and evil+neutral gods in freeport. If they let ogres be coercers and rogues, then i'm sure they'll let darkelves worship the Marrs if they so choose.

Personaly I like this. I always hated how small a role the gods played in EQ in terms of character customization.
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Old 05-19-2006, 09:12 AM   #17 (permalink)
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No, don't fuck Salvatore and Drizzt. Fuck the players who are not imaginative enought to roleplay their character correctly and think "Well, a good Dark Elf. Already been done, I'll have to think of something else."
Well, Drizzt is like one of those annoying jackasses you see in RPGs all the time, like of teenager filled with angst at the world and more powerful than most gods. God that kinda character annoyed me... I did a bit of RPing my darkelf in EQ but I was just a mischevious prankster (agnostic since that was my only other choice) I would have much prefered somebody like bristlebane. (casually, I could slip into character and back out in the same sentance)

Crummy RPers don't know how to do more than a stereotypical charactor whos parents were killed by so and so when they were little and have a vendetta thing going on against a nebulous antagonist or their race/family because of differing viewpoint or rightousness.
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Old 05-19-2006, 09:14 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Crummy RPers don't know how to do more than a stereotypical charactor whos parents were killed by so and so when they were little and have a vendetta thing going on against a nebulous antagonist or their race/family because of differing viewpoint or rightousness.
Hey I was like 10 ok?? So what if I had a Paladin with a +4 holy sword and was ruler of a kingdom of goblins, and could one shot dragons.
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Old 05-19-2006, 10:10 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Fuck Salvatore btw. Fuck him and his fucking Drizzt bullshit. Fuck.
Yessah!!

Salvatore permanently ghey-ified what was one of D&D's best evil creations. Then again, Salavatore's books in general indicate that he dreams of cock. I point to his Cleric Quintet that I could only stomach the first installment of, as his main hero was more pussywhipped than a dude on an afternoon soap, and his teh uberest weapon was the D&D version of a metal yo-yo that his ass-slave cleric referred to as "spindle disks."

Salvatore can be rightly credited for creating the Homo mythos of the D&D universe, where everyone tries to be a chick. His dark elf books hit heights of gheyness that even George Lucas cannot fathom.

Back on topic - I just hope that someday an evil character, like a dark elf, can gain actual rewards from killing every goodly creature they set eyes on. It always pissed me off that high elves got props from Tunare for killing dark elves, but Innoruuk still tried to kill me after I leveled to 60 on a steady diet of anything good that had a pulse. I killed so many asslings, light elves, druids and rangers in EQ that I should have had my own house on the Plane of Hate.
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Old 05-19-2006, 10:33 AM   #20 (permalink)
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In the wake of GTA and its get I don't see why more games can't have compelling storylines for evil characters. The one that pissed me off the most was Shadows of Undrentide. At the least minute Bioware was forced by the faggots at Hasbro to pull tons of evil-based content. Remember the baby you could loot from the kobold and then refuse to give back to its mother? You were supposed to be able to sell it to the slaver from Thay.

Anyway. Heres to hoping they do the Gods right this time. Actually make deity selection matter beyond newb quests and tradeskilled curiosities.


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Back on topic - I just hope that someday an evil character, like a dark elf, can gain actual rewards from killing every goodly creature they set eyes on. It always pissed me off that high elves got props from Tunare for killing dark elves, but Innoruuk still tried to kill me after I leveled to 60 on a steady diet of anything good that had a pulse. I killed so many asslings, light elves, druids and rangers in EQ that I should have had my own house on the Plane of Hate.
That would be fantastic. Add the various religions as societies for whom you can perform quests and gain rep. Diversify the populace. I would like as much Innoruuk-related content as possible, please. Antonican History X, motherfuckers.
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Old 05-19-2006, 10:44 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Fuck Innoruuk.

Cazic Thule > *
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Old 05-19-2006, 10:51 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Add the various religions as societies for whom you can perform quests and gain rep. Diversify the populace. I would like as much Innoruuk-related content as possible, please.
/agree

There should have been vendors and NPCs on the Plane of Hate where all us loyal followers of Innoruuk could go hang with. I should have been able to roam freely in the Plane of Hate, chillin' with my homeyz. I mean, I got max Di'Zok faction just by grinding levels in Nurga, but I was always KOS in Hate. That honestly used to chap my ass. If there are factions to grind, there should be some reward for doing so, like gaining the DiZok faction for the quests there.
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Fuck Innoruuk.

Cazic Thule > *
A faceless blob, or the Slick Pimp of Hate? No contest.

Although, the cool shit iksar NPCs said to you was pretty badass. I always thought Cabilis and the iksar was one of EQ's best developments. That and the skellie jug band in Paineel. Too cool for school.

EQ did evil so well.
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Fuck Innoruuk.

Cazic Thule > *
Truth.

Whiney emo kid, or god of tarrists. We know who wins there.

I also thought EQ kind failed to utilise it's own diety lore. I'd always expected them to make reference to bertox up to no good, but he apparently never was. atleast not on the same scale as the other big 4 evils (cazic, rallos, innoruk, bert). I know they touched upon more of the gods in PoP, but they should have utilized more it all the way from launch. Ofcourse i've always felt PoP and the older planes (complete with gods you could kill) were hokey to begin with.
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Old 05-19-2006, 01:08 PM   #25 (permalink)
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That doesn't necessarily mean the gods are returning. People can join cults and happily worship away without any divine manifestations popping up and saying Hi Thar! Special accoutrements of the faith, special benedictions or skills taught to the faithful.

Of course, it IS eq. the gods are returning with their phat lewtz /grumble. Here's to hoping you can't actually attack your own deity.

Innoruuk is the god of dark elves who like to mutilate their genitals. He's hardcore.

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Old 05-19-2006, 01:18 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I hope they come back... to help us do battle! We can get these little balls, each marked with a god. And you throw them into battle, and out from the ball pops whoever your god is. He does something with a lengthy 20-40 minute presentation of his badassness, and then leaves to be used again the next gameday! So awesome....
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I hope they come back... to help us do battle! We can get these little balls, each marked with a god. And you throw them into battle, and out from the ball pops whoever your god is. He does something with a lengthy 20-40 minute presentation of his badassness, and then leaves to be used again the next gameday! So awesome....
Someday I will have the Hate badge and my Innoruuk pokemon will beat all the other trainers!!

Innoruuk! I choose you!!
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That doesn't necessarily mean the gods are returning. People can join cults and happily worship away without any divine manifestations popping up and saying Hi Thar! Special accoutrements of the faith, special benedictions or skills taught to the faithful.

Of course, it IS eq. the gods are returning with their phat lewtz /grumble. Here's to hoping you can't actually attack your own deity.

Innoruuk is the god of dark elves who like to mutilate their genitals. He's hardcore.
I hope they don't have gods in as avatars or attackable figures. that shit was always retarded.
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Old 05-19-2006, 01:35 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Homeland was okay, but as for the rest of the series? Salvatore is the king of the Deus ex machina, though for what it's worth, I guess pretty much 90% of Forgotten Realms novels are nowadays.
Well, I've always viewed him more as always having the godlike characters, the best this, best that. The king of Deus ex Machina would be the guy who writes the Sword of Truth series...the lead character's power is DEM.

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Aye, not much of a contest at all. Tantrum throwing pansy or the guy whose followers' creedo is "that which does not kill me makes me stronger?"

Give me the Iksar variant of the CT religion anyday.

Of course, Brell is greater than all. He's the original puppet master, manipulating the other gods with ease.
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