Draenai Racials

[elrich]

"ZOMG slows and pets and range DPS they'll be soloing EVERYTHING!"

I seem to remember Beastlords soloing pretty much everything...

[blindeye]

Well it's not like rogues couldn't silience before this to be perfectly honest.

[Arbitrary]

Beastlords were pretty much overpowered.

[Zinke]

Originally Posted by Makata

Cheap shot: 4 seconds. (Sinister, tea, sinister)
AE Silence: 2 seconds (Sinister)
Kidney Shot: 6 seconds

GG Blood Elf rogues getting 12 uncontested seconds alone with a priest / warlock / druid. Yea, it's REALLY not that good. Honest. Also .. as you're killing a target, mana tap him, lose combat flag, stealth. You now get 40 energy instead of 20. Hell it won't even be that hard to get 60. Thank god these fuckers are going to be on my team.

It's very very rare, especially in WSG or AB, that I find 3 solo locks/druids/priests to gank in a row. My killing blows are always high in BGs, but my ratio isn't ever as good as a hunter or other ranged DPS unless I purposefully avoid large skirmishes. If I do that, I'm not contributing much though.

Using your move setup, yea it might let me easily gank one of those classes, but now I just blew AE silence on someone without putting taps on anyone. If I tapped him before he died, I still have to wait 3 minutes for the torrent cooldown. If I run around trying to assist in battles for 3 minutes in WSG/AB without dying, our team is steamrolling anyways. If I sit out and try to only gank solo people, I'm not contributing much to the game. We take those opportunities when we can, but you don't sit on your ass waiting for them.

Your describing, based on the current knowledge of the abilities, a very ideal circumstance for this ability. The 60 energy/rage gained strikes me as something that will happen a lot in PvE grinding and such, but not as much in PvP

[chaos]

So in the event that a Blood Elf rogue manages to get off 3 mana taps in a row on one target, restealth, cheap shot, hit the racial before the mana tap wears off, then this is unbalanced in PVP. And all this while the caster stands there afk.

What a solid arguement, that will happen every fight...

[Burning_Samurai]

BE rogues and warriors are going to be fucking sick. That mana tap effect looks like it stays with you forever until you use it. Stack it up three times and blow.

Rogue: Cheapshot anyone but a mage. BS, racial, BS, ZG trinket, BS, thistle tea, BS, kidney strike, enough energy from thistle tea and regeneration for atleast 2 or 3 more BS.

Warrior: Get target to 20%, racial and greater rage pot, execute.

[Makata]

Even with 0 energy gained this ability is STILL really good. 2 second ae silence for very likely 0 energy. As you're getting ready to kill one person, tap them .. boom .. 20 energy on your next cheap shot. 20 energy for free when no other race has anything remotely close = one fuckton of a good ability.

[Axire]

"* Arcane Affinity - Enchanting increased by 15"

What the fuck is with these useless racials? Surely they would have learned from the Gnomish Engineering bonus and the Tauran Cultivation that they are utterly worthless.

[Cybsled]

They're useless once you hit cap, but they are pretty useful for leveling up your skills ;p

[Fender]

What's the big deal here? Blizzard is fixing the population imbalance crap with not only a viable mangina race, but one that also has great racials. Teh kiddiez will play Horde now, make no mistake.

Even if it means that there are roughly 5 orc and troll characters per server now...we still win!

[KennyG]

It’s sad that they have to create a mangina race to resolve a population imbalance; actually, I am kind of ashamed I play these games now. We are all fucking losers.

[KennyG]

Originally Posted by Makata

GG Blizzard continuing to not know how to balance pvp.

By balance PvP you must mean only you can win. Makata, you are a tool, drink drano and get fucked.

[Makata]

Originally Posted by KennyG

By balance PvP you must mean only you can win. Makata, you are a tool, drink drano and get fucked.

Wow awesome logic there detective. You solved that case flawlessly.

Balance pvp insofar as how there's a largely rock-paper-scissors situation where skill matters but often comes to a very distance second to class match-up. Balance such as stupid restrictions (scatter and frost trap .. same diminishing returns) or lack thereof (cheap / kidney seperate, death coil / fear seperate). Balance such as how warsong generally penalizes you for actually killing your opponents rather than just stalling them so you can sneak a flag past. Balance such as how frostwolf bowmen can't reach the relief hut yet dun baldar bowman can reach aid station.

I could go on but you'd only find some bullshit to flame me on, not that you won't anyway. Throwing in a racial that can very easily be an auto-win is a continuation of bad pvp implementation. With certain class match-ups it's already very close to auto win and even in its weakest state, a 2 second likely free silence is going to have as much an impact on pvp as shadowmeld does now.

You probably think a shadow melding cat hunter or priest is good for pvp. Wouldn't surprise me.

[chaos]

Yes clearly this ability is an auto-win. Shut the fuck up.

[Digits]

It's an auto win against casters for 2 seconds, and then it stops being an auto-win. Surely, you understand this sound logic.