SoE to publish Vanguard

[Lefazz]

Originally Posted by Tolanin

would you rather play an unfinished game or the burning crusade eta sometime in 2009?

We'll be in Naxxaramas while you guys twiddle your thumbs some more.

[Istros]

Originally Posted by Lefazz

We'll be in Naxxaramas while you guys twiddle your thumbs some more.

And in like 5 days, we'll hopefully all be talking about the new alliance race rather than the state of VG

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Istros

And in like 5 days, we'll hopefully all be talking about the new alliance race rather than the state of VG

Not if they're Draenei :P

[ElGallo]

Originally Posted by Ziann

Welcome to the negativity bandwagon. It must be full by now.

Im no fanboy but I cant be the only old gamer around here hoping Vanguard turns out to be great.

A lot of us hope it will be great. That doesn't stop us from being able to read the writing that is scrawled in enormous letters over almost every wall related to this game. There are a lot of indications that the game is pretty troubled at this point. Not a diamond in the rough that needs more content, a balance run here and a bug fix there, but serious problems.

The one potential positive I see from this is the 2007 release date, which tells me that the people at Sigil may have stopped drinking their own kool-aid and come to the realization that there are serious problems that will take a long time to address. Maybe some of the issues can be fixed with a scalpel, but it looks like at least a few systems need to be ripped out, thrown in the trash, and rebuilt from scratch. If they are taking the time to do that, kudos to them. It's not easy for a proud and successful person to look at a project they put a lot of time and effort into and say "you know, a lot of this sucks, let's redo it."

So, anyway, I don't think more than a very few people WANT the game to suck. To the contrary, almost everyone wants it to be Robot Jesus (hell, I want every game to be Robot Jesus). But wishing doesn't make it so. Open your eyes, man.

[Itzena]

Originally Posted by Khorum

Not if they're Draenei :P

Oh, people will be talking about them. It'll be along the lines of "Fucking Draenai?!?!" but people will be talking.

[Freki]

Originally Posted by Hateyou

Uhm, isn't he thier lawyer? What the fuck do you expect?

WTF did they expect from us? That we start praising SOE?

[Istros]

Originally Posted by Khorum

Not if they're Draenei :P

Please God, no... (but I do agree with Itzena)

[Overgauss]

Of the Three there are Two. Of the Two there is One.

[Lefazz]

Originally Posted by ElGallo

So, anyway, I don't think more than a very few people WANT the game to suck. To the contrary, almost everyone wants it to be Robot Jesus (hell, I want every game to be Robot Jesus). But wishing doesn't make it so. Open your eyes, man.

Quote for truth.

I sincerely hope Vanguard is an amazing game. But everything I've heard about what it's like in it's current form will be hugely disappointing to us.

Like it or not, the best we have right now to play is WoW (which in my opinion is a great game, not sure what the heck is wrong with some of you people.) or EQ2 for others.

[Caocao]

Originally Posted by Freki

WTF did they expect from us? That we start praising SOE?

No one is praising any one, he's still praising Vanguard and is hoping for a good release. But ya, most of the people here are probably looking for something along those lines. Although previously posted was a pretty hated post towards SoE, seems they shot his dog or something .

[Runnen]

Not to derail this thread, but since people are mentionning the Draenei.. the ones shown on the Burning Crusade Bestiary.. "The Broken", looked pretty damn good.

[Khorum]

Originally Posted by Ziann

Welcome to the negativity bandwagon. It must be full by now.

Im no fanboy but I cant be the only old gamer around here hoping Vanguard turns out to be great.

I'm a pretty fucking ancient avalon-hill-era grognard gamer. I was hoping Vanguard would do spectacularly well. Enthusiasm and advocacy are one thing, but falling for marketspeak that somehow suggests that a MMOG in development switching publishers and financing a WEEK before E3 is a _good_ thing is called fanaticism.

I'm open to the notion that this maybe the most savvy manipulation of the gaming press and viral marketting in industry history. I'd even believe it if they had suggested that through some financial/legal judo they had convinced MS that this was for the best. But don't expect people to believe that any videogame switching publishers late into development is ever a good thing.

[Itzena]

Originally Posted by Overgauss

Of the Three there are Two. Of the Two there is One.

We are all Kosh.

[Algrinon]

Originally Posted by Neric

That's the basic concept of Vanguard. Meaningless computer generated "content" with absolutely no purpose. The major flaw in contrast to other games is that it becomes way too obvious way too fast.

Neric, please just shut the fuck up up, now. You have no God damn clue of the fuck you speak. Moron. Have you been to Sigil Studios to see the computer generated content asshole?

No, you have not.

Moreover, I have. The shit that is going down now in Sigil's dojo is far beyond computer generation. I met the designers and artists. I sat down and watched as they created one of the most incredible scenes ever seen in a dungeon. The first time we see this in game, there will be screenshots with the caption: Holy Shit!

I fucking hate assholes who hate just to hate without knowing a God damn thing. You need to fucking die. I truly hate you. And you are a moron.

[Hateyou]

Originally Posted by Freki

WTF did they expect from us? That we start praising SOE?

That has nothing to do with what I said. All I'm saying is bitching about a Sigil Vanboi who happens to be thier lawyer is fucking stupid.