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The Hiram Key · 03-31-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnome Eater

Could you make it any more transparent that the reason you are flaming is because you never got invited into beta?

Gnome, if I did or if I didn't do you think that I would reveal that here ? Become a Neric wanna be ? Honestly I am flaming over the entire process of how people are chosen for beta. People bitch that there is sub 100 people to test VG with on peak nights, and I submit to you this complete pile of dogshit they call their beta invitation program.

Fill your beta with shit, and you will get shit back in return.

If you really must know, I prefer not to beta test things overall- Anarchy Online cured me of ever wanted to do that again. I think I would make a decent tester because I do report bugs, but I do that anyways in the course of normal game play, I don't need the special incentive of a beta invite.

And you can go fuck yourself Gnome, truly.

The Hiram Key · 03-31-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Murr

You act like someone personally took a steaming shit in your cheerios this morning - chill the fuck out.

Im tired of seeing the same ole solutions being used on the same ole problems with the same fucking results. The system is broken (beta) because the devs choose it to be broken.

"But all our F&F and 733t beta invites give us such goooooooood feedback and help us polish our game to it's full potential".

Yeah, all 100 of them.

The Hiram Key · 03-31-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnome Eater

This to me has nothing to do with special priviledge, but it has to do with 'even ground'. As long as you are anon like me, you can spout what you would like, with minimal consequence to you or your job - I can flame, call people names, and do whatever I like, devs/CEO who do, even if they come here they represent the company they work for and cannot reply in tone. You can call them out, they cannot 'call you' out. Asking questions for the sake of lobbying softball questions is stupid, but asking questions they are not able to answer just for a show of machism and to get some tough guy cred among a forum is stupid.
You cannot make accusations against which a person cannot reasonably defend themselves.

I agree.

Edit: sorry for the three in a row.

elrich · 03-31-2006, 08:56 PM

Hiram, it seems like your complaint is right along the same line as Krones'

As such, you should read his post, the re-read it. Take example of how he presented his issues. That is the form and structure of a well put and well reasonable argument, and even though what he posted was criticism, it was well worded and well thought. Reading his post, it doesn't sound like he is crying "I didnt get into beta and I'm angry!", like yours did.

You want to honestly get your opinion/voice out there? Do so reasonably.

Exmonk · 03-31-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Krones

Long post

Dead on Krones, some of us really were willing to put the time as if it was a job. When the beta computer specs got leaked, I was one who upgraded my computer at that time to get a chance.

Tangent, gnomeeater were you in BoR?

Creediki · 03-31-2006, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Duppin

That's okay, you're just wrong again.
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Making you, or Utnayan, or whoever happy is NOT the only concern that someone like Brad or Smed or Gallenite has when making a post on boards like these, and you're a jerkoff for not realizing that.

I differentiate between Gallente who has posted useful information, and Brad/Smed who have posted none. Well, Smed confirmed he was a snake. You seem to think that their need to serve many audiences allows them to say nothing with multi-paragraph posts while being praised for it. I disagree.

Fammaden · 03-31-2006, 09:54 PM

Ut and Neric's panties must be so full of jism they can hardly walk.

Smed · 03-31-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnome Eater

His post is making fun of the fact that airlines are heavily subsidized and unionized so firing/hiring are extremly slow.

There are plenty of meaningful things to question people over, why do people pick the most insane semantical points?

no more drunk pilot jokes for me...

Smed

Smed · 03-31-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Aethn Anvel

This thread might actually be a record. The CEO's of two MMO companies posting in the same thread. Why do we never see the CEO or even management from Blizzard post in the public?

As for reasons why people quit or are fired. I believe being a California company, that it would actually be illegal for either company to state publicly one way or another, according to California Labor laws, the disposition of a former employees reasons for leaving unless the employee gives permission. When I hire a new person I can only ask them to verify information the applicant provides. In some states I cant even ask the former company if they would hire that person again or not.

Welcome to the People's Republic of California

Smed · 03-31-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Gnome Eater

True, but getting people to post here is helpful, the questions that can be answered tend to get relatively spin-free answer.

Of course, the truly interesting questions are those that they cannot realistically answer without compromising themselves too much.

Speaking of which, Smed and Brad, will you stop beating your wives?

My wife is 6' 2 and can without a doubt kick my ass... we've had 4 kids and she still can run 6 miles a day. I get tired driving my car that far.

Smed

Laerazi · 03-31-2006, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed

My wife ... she still can run 6 miles a day. I get tired driving my car that far.

I laughed.

Fammaden · 03-31-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed

My wife is 6' 2 and can without a doubt kick my ass... we've had 4 kids and she still can run 6 miles a day. I get tired driving my car that far.

You didn't have to eat ALL the Krispy Kremes that PA sent back you know...

NotAok · 03-31-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Hiram Key

Im tired of seeing the same ole solutions being used on the same ole problems with the same fucking results. The system is broken (beta) because the devs choose it to be broken.

"But all our F&F and 733t beta invites give us such goooooooood feedback and help us polish our game to it's full potential".

Yeah, all 100 of them.

So lets say the game is absolute shit. You'd continue "beta" testing a game that isnt anywhere near complete and simply isnt fun to play? Fascinating, if so.

I like your assumption that everyone invited has no prior beta testing experience and that the whole invitation system is wrong. That can be the only reason for 100 people online a night. I'm sure if they invite the PROPER people that will fix everything. After all, most of the people that applied/signed up on the forums were surely not excited to play the game or didn't know the basics about it

Exmonk · 03-31-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed

Welcome to the People's Republic of California

The best way to get around this is just say when getting a call. We have a similar rule here in Arizona.

"I have nothing to say about that employee." People get the point.

Smed · 03-31-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fammaden

You didn't have to eat ALL the Krispy Kremes that PA sent back you know...

I put the filling in them... no way I'm eating them

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03-31-2006, 08:56 PM	#319 (permalink)
elrich Jackass Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 944 -3 Internets	Hiram, it seems like your complaint is right along the same line as Krones' As such, you should read his post, the re-read it. Take example of how he presented his issues. That is the form and structure of a well put and well reasonable argument, and even though what he posted was criticism, it was well worded and well thought. Reading his post, it doesn't sound like he is crying "I didnt get into beta and I'm angry!", like yours did. You want to honestly get your opinion/voice out there? Do so reasonably.