Priest 1.10 PVP - Page 18

Cad · 03-29-2006, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jabberwhacky

He's an '05er but incurred the wrath of some higher-up and the result was they reset his post count and join date. The post count has been restored (thank god) but the join date is still off.

January '05er.. but yea. Brit rickshawed a 20-page post and I was posting to it as it was rickshawed and it fucked my account somehow..

ValkyrieIsAboutToDie · 03-29-2006, 01:39 PM

Alright, now that I've had a chance to give PvP with my newly specced Disc/Holy priest...

Does anyone else feel... weaker? Especially against melee classes? I know it's strange, with Imp PW:S and Imp Holy Fire, but I really felt like they were carving through me much more easily. I dueled 3 different rogues (1 stunlock, 2 combat), 2 warriors and a feral druid, and each put a big hurting on me right from the start. Maybe it's not that I feel weaker, but rather I had such high-hopes for damage reduction against melee that I've been let down because it doesn't seem as big as I thought it would... who knows.

Also, Power Infusion is really underwhelming.

Cad · 03-29-2006, 01:42 PM

If you had shadowform before I'd imagine you're quite a bit more squishy without, even with the new inner fire.

ValkyrieIsAboutToDie · 03-29-2006, 02:15 PM

Didn't have Shadow Form before. I was Holy/Disc before the patch and used to rip people new assholes. Something just feels... off... with the new Holy/Disc. I'm sure I'll figure it out sooner or later...

xar · 03-29-2006, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cad

January '05er.. but yea. Brit rickshawed a 20-page post and I was posting to it as it was rickshawed and it fucked my account somehow..

No, I'm pretty sure the powers that be think you're a fucking retard so they reset your count / date to emphasize that point.

Cad · 03-29-2006, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xar

No, I'm pretty sure the powers that be think you're a fucking retard so they reset your count / date to emphasize that point.

Of course, they could just ban me, but thats alot more likely, right?

Fadaar · 03-29-2006, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cad

Of course, they could just ban me, but thats alot more likely, right?

No they enjoy you being the puppet. You = the Blaezenfury of the general forum.

Cad · 03-29-2006, 02:40 PM

Is that supposed to hurt my feelings? Any of you may not agree with my viewpoints, but I couldn't give a shit. Like it or don't like it. It's not a popularity contest, it's an exchange of ideas. You guys can teabag the conventional wisdom and think it gets you "cool points" with whomever you're trying to impress.. I just say my opinion, and fuck you if you don't like it, put me on ignore or ban me if you have the power.

Wodin · 03-29-2006, 02:41 PM

The problem, and the thing that gets everyone annoyed, is when you talk from a position of authority when you lack understanding on the subject. See the recent hunter thread for probably the most stark evidence of that.

Cad · 03-29-2006, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wodin

The problem, and the thing that gets everyone annoyed, is when you talk from a position of authority when you lack understanding on the subject. See the recent hunter thread for probably the most stark evidence of that.

If not understanding minutiae of a subject were a reason not to post on these boards, Praetor would be the only one allowed to post. I admitted I didn't realize what they were pointing out once it was clear, and thanked them for the info. Which was tangent to the discussion we were having in any case.

frott · 03-29-2006, 02:49 PM

+10% healing +10% mana being one or the other is a big shift.
No more focused casting is another.

Against all the classes you're talking about, the faster gheals aren't all that amazing.

Gaining back a little health after a crit as a HoT? Pff.

Inner fire being a buff that is nullified ANYWAY by armor debuffs, let alone going away after 20 hits (which is what, a few seconds as a rogue?)? Nice!

The buffs are really for incidental damage. They don't stop assist trains, they don't do much against the bajillion crowd control methods and interrupts.

I was doing fine in group PVP as shadow with the new VE. That's a fuckton of regen to your group, and that's all you get directly from me (except for dispells and shields, natch). But I'm sure you can keep track of how I silenced the double trinketed mage!

As shadow, I like grouping with another healer, preferably Paladin/Druid over 2nd priest, because they see that I'm not "the healer" and don't assist rape me as fast as a healing priest gets raped.

Duppin · 03-29-2006, 02:52 PM

I will say this:

Cad irritates me at times, but at least he has a valid point occasionally.

Makata, on the other hand...

frott · 03-29-2006, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cad

If not understanding minutiae of a subject were a reason not to post on these boards, Praetor would be the only one allowed to post. I admitted I didn't realize what they were pointing out once it was clear, and thanked them for the info. Which was tangent to the discussion we were having in any case.

This is different than the "you can't solo a level 1 without getting hit as a hunter" discussion, I assume? http://youtube.com/watch?v=kZ9OTPii4x8 ? Some other time you were painfully, obviously wrong, disproven and yet you kept right on up? Mmm.

Cad · 03-29-2006, 03:00 PM

No frott, after watching the movie and realizing that there are low-level mobs that move at 30% speed, I said I geuss it could be done. I guess you didn't actually read the thread though..

I did however say it was stupid, and pointless. Which it is.

Arbitrary · 03-29-2006, 03:03 PM

Cad, you take rock solid positions that you can only be budged from after being beaten down by solid evidence.

You need to be less 100% invested in every single position you ever take ever.

03-29-2006, 01:39 PM	#257 (permalink)
ValkyrieIsAboutToDie Needs food badly Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,560 +39 Internets	Alright, now that I've had a chance to give PvP with my newly specced Disc/Holy priest... Does anyone else feel... weaker? Especially against melee classes? I know it's strange, with Imp PW:S and Imp Holy Fire, but I really felt like they were carving through me much more easily. I dueled 3 different rogues (1 stunlock, 2 combat), 2 warriors and a feral druid, and each put a big hurting on me right from the start. Maybe it's not that I feel weaker, but rather I had such high-hopes for damage reduction against melee that I've been let down because it doesn't seem as big as I thought it would... who knows. Also, Power Infusion is really underwhelming. __________________ XBL Tag - Lord Pootington \| Play Community Game - Avatar Golf on Xbox Live -- 400xbl points -- Course designer included!

03-29-2006, 02:15 PM	#259 (permalink)
ValkyrieIsAboutToDie Needs food badly Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,560 +39 Internets	Didn't have Shadow Form before. I was Holy/Disc before the patch and used to rip people new assholes. Something just feels... off... with the new Holy/Disc. I'm sure I'll figure it out sooner or later... __________________ XBL Tag - Lord Pootington \| Play Community Game - Avatar Golf on Xbox Live -- 400xbl points -- Course designer included!

03-29-2006, 02:41 PM	#264 (permalink)
Wodin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,915 +0 Internets	The problem, and the thing that gets everyone annoyed, is when you talk from a position of authority when you lack understanding on the subject. See the recent hunter thread for probably the most stark evidence of that. __________________ Wodin - Troll Rogue - Elitist Jerks - Mal'Ganis

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes	Rate This Thread
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode	Rate This Thread:

03-29-2006, 01:42 PM	#258 (permalink)
Cad Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 6,677 -37 Internets	If you had shadowform before I'd imagine you're quite a bit more squishy without, even with the new inner fire.

03-29-2006, 02:40 PM	#263 (permalink)
Cad Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 6,677 -37 Internets	Is that supposed to hurt my feelings? Any of you may not agree with my viewpoints, but I couldn't give a shit. Like it or don't like it. It's not a popularity contest, it's an exchange of ideas. You guys can teabag the conventional wisdom and think it gets you "cool points" with whomever you're trying to impress.. I just say my opinion, and fuck you if you don't like it, put me on ignore or ban me if you have the power.

03-29-2006, 02:49 PM	#266 (permalink)
frott Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,392 +0 Internets	+10% healing +10% mana being one or the other is a big shift. No more focused casting is another. Against all the classes you're talking about, the faster gheals aren't all that amazing. Gaining back a little health after a crit as a HoT? Pff. Inner fire being a buff that is nullified ANYWAY by armor debuffs, let alone going away after 20 hits (which is what, a few seconds as a rogue?)? Nice! The buffs are really for incidental damage. They don't stop assist trains, they don't do much against the bajillion crowd control methods and interrupts. I was doing fine in group PVP as shadow with the new VE. That's a fuckton of regen to your group, and that's all you get directly from me (except for dispells and shields, natch). But I'm sure you can keep track of how I silenced the double trinketed mage! As shadow, I like grouping with another healer, preferably Paladin/Druid over 2nd priest, because they see that I'm not "the healer" and don't assist rape me as fast as a healing priest gets raped.

03-29-2006, 02:52 PM	#267 (permalink)
Duppin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 4,714	I will say this: Cad irritates me at times, but at least he has a valid point occasionally. Makata, on the other hand...

03-29-2006, 03:00 PM	#269 (permalink)
Cad Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 6,677 -37 Internets	No frott, after watching the movie and realizing that there are low-level mobs that move at 30% speed, I said I geuss it could be done. I guess you didn't actually read the thread though.. I did however say it was stupid, and pointless. Which it is.