Priest 1.10 PVP - Page 12

Digits · 03-21-2006, 11:30 PM

I enjoy being a healer in pvp, but it is much the same reason as why I enjoy playing pvp in this game in the first place. It's not about making a TEAM SUPER EFFORT! or even winning, but rather it's about depriving the other team a win and frustrating them. If I see a rogue in full bloodfang and perditions blade beating on some poor mage you can be damn well sure I'm going to heal the mage, but only because I enjoy seeing someone with such an investment in their character fail. God, that's just as glorious as a planet falling on Chewbacca.

Zest · 03-22-2006, 12:48 AM

Haha yeah, healing some ghetto mage in half blues while they kill a Warrior in full PvP gear makes me laugh.

It's not that most of us flat out refuse to heal. I know I swap in and out of Shadowform during BGs depending on the situation, and I'm sure other Priests do too. It's that most people just aren't worth healing. It's not often you come across a Warrior who realises they have more than Charge, Intercept, MS and WW. To be blunt, most people suck ass at PvP and I can provide a bigger contribution on my own.

But every once in a while you find someone who actually knows how to play. If I find someone that's actually worth keeping alive, and I know our combined contribution will be more effective than our seperate ones, then yeah I'll heal the shit out of them. For whatever reason this usually means I end up healing Mages (not usually the AP/Trinket Bots though), other Priests and pre-MC Warlocks. It might just be because we're all gimp and have had to adapt to a world of two hits means death, but these people just seem to be the least retarded. Although, getting a BWL Warrior/Rogue/Hunter that isn't an idiot is the best thing ever, but that's one in a million for a PUG...

Deris · 03-22-2006, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Malvesti

This thread delivers.

Perhaps they don't heal you because you're a jerk?

If they have a chance in hell of actually being of worth to me in that BG or world pvp moment, then yes i will expend the mana to heal him. But usually i'm better off nuking ;d

kasey · 03-22-2006, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Liz

QFT!!!

I've only refused to heal one time, I'll usually switch back and forth doing what needs to be done, but the one time some idiot felt the need to say, "if I see a priest not healing in bg I boot from raid" (before the doors even opened mind) I went straight to shadowform and told the fucker feel free to boot me cause the only way he's getting a heal is by using a potion or a bandage...

No doubt there are plenty of idiots but good, even decent healers are sometimes a challenge to find... Don't piss them off!

Just a small advise from someone whos been there and done that.Dont try to swim against the flow.It can turn out ugly when that person pulls a private jihad on you to "teach" you and make you heal the next time.Just pretend and do your thing is what i do most of the time unless i really feel the need for confrontation.People who say retarded things like what you mentioned are not really capable of noticing whats going on and whos doing what anyways, however they are well capable of wasting your time

Cad · 03-22-2006, 08:20 AM

Is there a tooltip at character creation when you mouseover priest it says "prima donnas click here" or "click here if you have a need to be complimented on how well you play your class in order to actually play your class" on it?

Cuz fuck, you guys sure are some whiney bitches.

kasey · 03-22-2006, 08:21 AM

rofl , heh ,,I,, >< ,,I,,

BirgittePovar · 03-22-2006, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GrobbeeTrull

The more you rag on priests to play how you want them to play instead of how they want to play, the quicker you'll find yourself priestless.

Sure, a few priests actually enjoy healing in BG's and whatnot. But most probably don't. You keep on their ass day in and out about it, and guess who stops showing up.

Then it's YOU who fucked the team, not them. Because your ego couldn't handle letting someone just chill the fuck out for a few minutes of the day.

You know what? If you never heal, under any circumstances, even when there is no better action period, then I'm *GLAD* I drove you the hell away from Battlegrounds.

If you want to suck, do it somewhere else.

Good lord Priests are such a prima donna class it's ridiculous.

Just because we want you to heal occasionally does not mean that we want you to be a healbot.

There is a difference. Learn it, or get the hell away from me.

kasey · 03-22-2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BirgittePovar

If you never heal

didnt sound like he was saying that :-p

Cad · 03-22-2006, 08:42 AM

You're looking at it the wrong way. The warrior/rogue/mage is your killbot. Why is healing "botting" but killing is somehow fun and challenging?

I followed plenty of warriors around healing them and earthshocking/purging priests/mages we were killing while dropping grounding/windfury/earthbind totems. Guess what, we fucking killed stuff. Did I do most of the damage? No. Did I get HK's just the same? yes. Is clicking "heal" less fun than clicking "nuke" ?

I stopped playing my shaman though because for some reason my guild members wouldn't step to me and suck my dick daily for lowering myself to healing them. Fuck that, if they want me to heal they can.....

err...

Kuro · 03-22-2006, 08:44 AM

Because big arse damage crits make you feel manly irl.

Big W Powah! · 03-22-2006, 09:00 AM

You know what? Having played a healer, Liz, I wouldn't expect them to walk on eggshells around me, nor should they have to around any healer.

Key fucking word: healer.

That means when you need to heal, you fucking heal. Can you do shit other than heal? By all fucking means, but you should always heal when you need to. Because, gasp, you're a fucking healer. That goes for shaman/Druid too. Don't be a heal bot, but also don't not heal, its that fucking simple.

You and your egotistical "I'm a healer don't piss me off" bullshit can drop to your knees and get a couple ounces of baby-batter from my maypole of meat, bitch.

RunningDog · 03-22-2006, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cad

You're looking at it the wrong way. The warrior/rogue/mage is your killbot. Why is healing "botting" but killing is somehow fun and challenging?

I followed plenty of warriors around healing them and earthshocking/purging priests/mages we were killing while dropping grounding/windfury/earthbind totems. Guess what, we fucking killed stuff. Did I do most of the damage? No. Did I get HK's just the same? yes. Is clicking "heal" less fun than clicking "nuke" ?

I stopped playing my shaman though because for some reason my guild members wouldn't step to me and suck my dick daily for lowering myself to healing them. Fuck that, if they want me to heal they can.....

err...

Warriors are about the only class worth keeping alive through heals. Anyone else is usually dead before or shortly after a shield or flash heal; their survival is down to their attackers being killed or switching targets.

People assume that they would have survived if only they'd been healed, when the truth is they might have lasted 1 or 2 extra hits - maybe 2 seconds altogether. Granted, in certain situations those couple of seconds can make all the difference (controlling GY, flag captures etc), but in general they don't.

Cad · 03-22-2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RunningDog

Warriors are about the only class worth keeping alive through heals. Anyone else is usually dead before or shortly after a shield or flash heal; their survival is down to their attackers being killed or switching targets.

People assume that they would have survived if only they'd been healed, when the truth is they might have lasted 1 or 2 extra hits - maybe 2 seconds altogether. Granted, in certain situations those couple of seconds can make all the difference (controlling GY, flag captures etc), but in general they don't.

The situation we're talking about where the whiny pussies have come out of the woodwork I was on my warrior, carrying the flag in a 2-2 WSG game while they had our flag.

frott · 03-22-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cad

You're looking at it the wrong way. The warrior/rogue/mage is your killbot. Why is healing "botting" but killing is somehow fun and challenging?

Because the KILLER has the choice of who they're attacking.

The HEALER has no choice.

And, unfortunately, more times than not, the killers are not prioritizing the people killing you. Why's that? because they're too busy taking out the other team's weak link: the cloth healer.

Great dynamic.

Ailu · 03-22-2006, 09:24 AM

You don't seem to get it. Like someone mentioned above that most people aren't worth healing because they are useless, stupid and shitty geared. If I happened to be in a group with Schatze the GM chances are I'd probably consider him a good player. Sometimes they are also actually better off dead since they can't break CC while waiting to rez at the graveyard and I'd benefit more by saving my mana for something else. Have you ever wasted your whole mana bar healing a warrior only to realize that he's actually not killing anything? Thanks, but I rather do something on my own then helping you achieve absolutely nothing. This is how many PUGs are in WoW and the only reasons I can think of why you haven't realized this yet is either because you are one of those described above or that you happen to play on a server with exceptional players. But then you aren't playing on mine, that's for sure.

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Big W Powah! You pussies can -interwebs better than that. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 3,044 -79 Internets	You know what? Having played a healer, Liz, I wouldn't expect them to walk on eggshells around me, nor should they have to around any healer. Key fucking word: healer. That means when you need to heal, you fucking heal. Can you do shit other than heal? By all fucking means, but you should always heal when you need to. Because, gasp, you're a fucking healer. That goes for shaman/Druid too. Don't be a heal bot, but also don't not heal, its that fucking simple. You and your egotistical "I'm a healer don't piss me off" bullshit can drop to your knees and get a couple ounces of baby-batter from my maypole of meat, bitch. __________________ Brutefight Motherfucker

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03-21-2006, 11:30 PM	#166 (permalink)
Digits The good news is that you're still alive. The bad news is that that's the good news. Also, you have no legs. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 'Merica, land of the free. Posts: 1,268 +1 Internets	I enjoy being a healer in pvp, but it is much the same reason as why I enjoy playing pvp in this game in the first place. It's not about making a TEAM SUPER EFFORT! or even winning, but rather it's about depriving the other team a win and frustrating them. If I see a rogue in full bloodfang and perditions blade beating on some poor mage you can be damn well sure I'm going to heal the mage, but only because I enjoy seeing someone with such an investment in their character fail. God, that's just as glorious as a planet falling on Chewbacca.

03-22-2006, 12:48 AM	#167 (permalink)
Zest Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 815	Haha yeah, healing some ghetto mage in half blues while they kill a Warrior in full PvP gear makes me laugh. It's not that most of us flat out refuse to heal. I know I swap in and out of Shadowform during BGs depending on the situation, and I'm sure other Priests do too. It's that most people just aren't worth healing. It's not often you come across a Warrior who realises they have more than Charge, Intercept, MS and WW. To be blunt, most people suck ass at PvP and I can provide a bigger contribution on my own. But every once in a while you find someone who actually knows how to play. If I find someone that's actually worth keeping alive, and I know our combined contribution will be more effective than our seperate ones, then yeah I'll heal the shit out of them. For whatever reason this usually means I end up healing Mages (not usually the AP/Trinket Bots though), other Priests and pre-MC Warlocks. It might just be because we're all gimp and have had to adapt to a world of two hits means death, but these people just seem to be the least retarded. Although, getting a BWL Warrior/Rogue/Hunter that isn't an idiot is the best thing ever, but that's one in a million for a PUG...

03-22-2006, 08:20 AM	#170 (permalink)
Cad Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 6,674 -37 Internets	Is there a tooltip at character creation when you mouseover priest it says "prima donnas click here" or "click here if you have a need to be complimented on how well you play your class in order to actually play your class" on it? Cuz fuck, you guys sure are some whiney bitches.

03-22-2006, 08:42 AM	#174 (permalink)
Cad Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 6,674 -37 Internets	You're looking at it the wrong way. The warrior/rogue/mage is your killbot. Why is healing "botting" but killing is somehow fun and challenging? I followed plenty of warriors around healing them and earthshocking/purging priests/mages we were killing while dropping grounding/windfury/earthbind totems. Guess what, we fucking killed stuff. Did I do most of the damage? No. Did I get HK's just the same? yes. Is clicking "heal" less fun than clicking "nuke" ? I stopped playing my shaman though because for some reason my guild members wouldn't step to me and suck my dick daily for lowering myself to healing them. Fuck that, if they want me to heal they can..... err...

03-22-2006, 08:44 AM	#175 (permalink)
Kuro Support Beam Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,977 +56 Internets	Because big arse damage crits make you feel manly irl.

03-22-2006, 09:24 AM	#180 (permalink)
Ailu Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: EU Posts: 322 +2 Internets	You don't seem to get it. Like someone mentioned above that most people aren't worth healing because they are useless, stupid and shitty geared. If I happened to be in a group with Schatze the GM chances are I'd probably consider him a good player. Sometimes they are also actually better off dead since they can't break CC while waiting to rez at the graveyard and I'd benefit more by saving my mana for something else. Have you ever wasted your whole mana bar healing a warrior only to realize that he's actually not killing anything? Thanks, but I rather do something on my own then helping you achieve absolutely nothing. This is how many PUGs are in WoW and the only reasons I can think of why you haven't realized this yet is either because you are one of those described above or that you happen to play on a server with exceptional players. But then you aren't playing on mine, that's for sure.