Cockblocks sucked ass in EQ and they still suck ass in WoW

[Thhin]

Or more specifically the NR gear needed for Princess Huhuran.

Remember in that big rambling, tangential, shill thread with the multi-page discussion on how it much cockblocking other guild sucked? Well its back in action with the required farming of green dragons for their NR loot. If you want the cliff notes version of this post just read the big lines.


If you don't know this fight here is a quick run down of HuHu's abilities:

• Acid Spit - Stacking dot on the MT, forces you to switch tanks when it starts getting high.... unless you have high NR in which case you resist it enough to reset the dot (like Firemaw).
• Wyvern Sting - Sleeps 10 close targets every 30 secs or so... but you don't get woken on damage. When it ends you take a straight DD. The sleep is resistible, and if you don't resist the damage when the effect ends is resistible.
• Noxious Poison - Single target, unresistable, random target, which gives you an aura of silence and poison (NR resistible) damage.
• Frenzy - Very similar to Firemaw again, every 15 secs will frenzy where she gains melee haste, and if frenzied will spray out poison bolts every 4 seconds. Can Tranq this effect until 30%
• Poison Bolt - 1500-2300 NR damage to the 15 closest targets ~ NR resistible.

Notice something about that list? YOU NEED A LOT OF NATURE RESISTANCE. But I’ll detail it a little more-

The first 70% of the fight takes a decent strat to get it down, dealing with the silence, the sleep (the sleep + tank transitions take some work), and the AoE damage. We are at the point where we have everybody alive and priests with 80%+ mana at 30% (we used to have mana problems from healing the stacking dot, 'till we started using invuln pots).

People who say the first 70% is trivial are either a) just trying to stroke thier own e-peen, b)have a ton of NR from green dragons so they one tank it c) are alliance so they have easy tank switches with BoP D)all the above.

At 30% HuHu goes frenzy and can't be tranqued;150% melee haste, and the raid wiping thing, 2k poison bolts to the closest 15 people alive. You kill this phase by having a bunch of people close with super high NR and heal though it while you go max DPS and burn her down (Which should take roughly 60 seconds).

We've tried many things, but it just comes down to having enough NR that you healers can heal though it. we've tried a number of healing strats, PoH spam, 1 healer 1 NR bitch, combo of the 2; we even have a MT switch->shield wall rotation set up. I have to mention the best thing we tried is to all use our Barov Peasant Caller to try and absorb bolts. 60+ peasants running toward her is a great sight... but poison bolt doesn't hit pets which make them, and high NR hunter/lock pets, useless (they still can soak up a noxious poison and wyvern sting though). You can have mages iceblock and suck up bolts for 20 seconds (10x2), and I've heard but we're not alliance, you can have pallys and dorfs do the same. Our best attempts have been 7-9%, and that was with using a lot of consumables.



Nature resist gear is crucial for this fight



We are not a noob guild, we've been killing Nef for months. Our first night in AQ we cleared up to Huhu... but the average age of my guild mates are, well, old enough that we have jobs. During raid time we usually have 45 ish on, and usually 10 or less at other times.

There is another guild on our server that has not only a much larger guild roster then us, but also one that's on during the middle of the day which kills all the green dragons even before we log on.

We've killed 2, they have killed over 130. We killed Ysondra in one shot (never tried her before) with them standing right behind us. We killed Terar in 2 and once again they were summoning in and we barely got our 2nd try in before they pulled. We had Emeriss at 30% on our 2nd try (a 2nd try that we only got because they got some unlucky adds) and would have killed it 3rd shot, but they were there. Just yesterday they tried one in the middle of the day and wiped.... and then waited there with a warlock summon team with the rest of the guild scattered all over. As soon as we started heading there they chain summoned everybody and killed it right in our faces.



Skill and gear wise, we can kill the green dragons, and are only denied thier essential for progression loot because another guild is cockblocking us.



There is very very little NR gear out there. There are only 3 craftable NR items, mail gloves/bp/bracer, nothing else. Right now we are going with a mish mash of marauden loot, green AH items, and a couple drops from strat. This is while our competition is letting 20NR 17STA rings rot, giving +healing (staff of rampant growth) to warlocks, and having all of thier melee classes with 200+ NR without a massive drop in stats. Ex: Them: Acid Inscribed Pauldrons, Us: Acid-etched Pauldrons

There is no magic NPC right outside the instance to Mind control for an 83 NR buff. There is no Plate, Leather, Cloth, and very scant (3 pieces) of craftable mail.

I'm sure we'll get her dead, but I don't see it without using a metric asston of consumables.

Why the hell is there a fight that relies so heavily on Nature resist, without any way of getting NR other then contestable spawns?

taking bets on how many posts it will take to see

[Deris]

I concur sir .

Rather stupid to put a NR cockblock in the game, with the only viable NR being farmed up by the alliance zerg on my server since we field less than 10 players mid-late afternoon.

[Malvesti]

http://wow.blupp.net/item.php?id=171782

[James]

Why the hell is there a fight that relies so heavily on Nature resist, without any way of getting NR other then contestable spawns?

Actually, if you're horde, you can hit 315 NR and beyond (buffed) without ever seeing a dragon, though it gimps you pretty considerably. Hell, I'm sitting pretty at 169 unbuffed with Maraudon loot and some Thorium pieces. Took me all of 2 hours to get.

[Deris]

Only if you are Mail/Plate James, and why if you are horde? Shm Totem/Hunter Aspect = 60 for both :>.

[James]

Well, I don't know, or give, a shit about the Alliance so I wasn't going to speak for them, but yeah, mail/plate. Pretty sure you can get close to 300ish buffed in leather, though.

[Kasonic]

I agree, although your condition sucks a lot worse than mine. My guild's killed a handful of the dragons, but the top alliance guild has at least 50 kills, and killed Huhuran in one night. While there are (very good) NR pieces in AQ, there's only a few of them, and cloth NR fucking blows in general. I still don't understand why the Cenarion reputation rewards have a full set of mail, and that's it. It's almost like they just forgot about the other classes.

[Sancus]

c) are alliance so they have easy tank switches with BoP

Hi2u Limited Invulnerability Potion. Is it usable as frequently as BoP? No. Does it do the job? Yes.

[Grundie]

Look I'm not going to go into any strats since I know that doesn't fly here but I gotta say something. The amount of resist gear needed for this fight is not a big deal, far from a cockblock. If you can't find 20 people in your guild that are willing to farm and/or don't already have 150NR buffed then you don't deserve to progress past this fight.

If you and everyone else bitching about this fight spent as much time learning the fight and developing a solid healing/tanking/positioning strat then you would be fighting C'thun right now instead of crying here like a bnet kiddie. Sorry for the vent.

[Creediki]

I think your post is well-formated. Congrats.

[Zarcath]

It was public knowledge that AQ would require sick amounts of NR and the Green Dragons were in game for a good amount of time prior to release of AQ. All I read in your rant was "I didn't farm enough NR".

[Kasonic]

When his entire post is about being cockblocked out of farming NR in the first place responses like that sure make you look intelligent.

[Zarcath]

Originally Posted by Kasonic

When his entire post is about being cockblocked out of farming NR in the first place responses like that sure make you look intelligent.

you can get cockblocked from Maraudon? or larval essences? Insufficient preparation and priorities. Make a bigger effort to get to Green Dragons. How hard is it? Act like AQ was a fucking surprise.

[Dyscord]

nm. probably to much info. blah blah blizzard hates horde

[Grundie]

Originally Posted by Kasonic

When his entire post is about being cockblocked out of farming NR in the first place...

Fair enough. You do not need green dragon loot to progress past this fight. Happy?