They can't all be this stupid

[fanaskin]

this had to be some kind of grand mistake in the knowledge of the warrior class or miscommunication or something.


http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...tmp=1#blizzard

"Enrage was being used in excess in PvP situations. Some warriors would pop it as soon as the cooldown expired, (fana's note: wtf?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?) attempting to stay in a perpetual state of enragement."



i'd like to hear the real answer, i mean i know i can piece it together, warriors hitting hard in pvp, people whining ect. but this being the "official responce" wow.I never felt more disenfranchised about my class. GG at community management i guess. they fired the wrong guy, shoulda axe'd tseric imo. and +5% to bloodthirst doesn't "even it out" either imo.

[Gar]

I mean, thats some funny shit.

Huh? Thread already got deleted?

[fanaskin]

Heh it had like 20 pages of responces but was deleted. heres the whole qoute incase you where curious about the genious behind tseric.

(warriors:

Enrage - The talent will now grant 5/10/15/20/25% extra damage when enraged, instead of 8/16/24/33/40%.

just wondering what the reason behind this is? sorry if this is a re-post.)



That's ok. I commented on the warrior forums about this before, but the thread may be lost or consumed.

Enrage was being used in excess in PvP situations. Some warriors would pop it as soon as the cooldown expired, (fana edit: WTF??????) attempting to stay in a perpetual state of enragement. Coupled with Mortal Strike, this caused an inordinate deal of damage overall (or sustained damage throughout the situation). While this change seemed to affect fury-build warriors the most, the intent was to lessen the combination of Enrage and Mortal Strike. To that end, Bloodthirst was buffed to keep potential DPS within the Fury tree, but lessen the overall DPS of MS in combo with Enrage.

You know what i just had a thought while re-reading it, if he already commented about it ( and presuemebly that ones gone too ) he should have known what it was, having recently talked and commented about it before and all, right?

[ex-genj]

and he's our "class guy" awesome.

[Praetor]

Remove the second sentence from what he wrote and you have the real answer. It's not like he's the one designing the class.

[redav]

Would be nice to have feedback given directly to the designers instead of having it translated into nonsense by retards like tseric before submit. It's like that game in preschool where one person says something and you whisper it around till it gets back to you and it's been changed completely.

[findar]

swap enrage and improved slam. problem solved.

[beepbeepbeep]

Tseric is a fucking joke. His posts are reminiscent of a condescending highschooler, and that enrage statement is a shining example of the quality of "class leads".

[beepbeepbeep]

Originally Posted by findar

swap enrage and improved slam. problem solved.

...and replaced with an entirely new one!

[Ahnkosis]

What's stupid is Enrage has already been appropriately nerfed for 2h users. Back a patch or two ago, they took down the duration to 12s (effectively 3 swings for a 2h user) and a maximum of 12 swings.

What I bet the percieved overpoweredness is, is that some rank 14 BG lifer slaughters some random asshole in green and blue gear and random asshole runs to WoW forums and cries like a little bitch with a skinned knee. Then the 1000 other people that said rank 14 BG lifer farmed for honor over and over again bitch as well.

Also, they should change Enrage so that it either activates on a crit, or you can spend 30 rage and activate it with a 2-5 min CD.

[Tabris]

Warriors do too much damage (I'm a Warrior).

Nerfing Enrage is only the start. Expect more nerfs to Mortal Strike (currently the most powerful PVP debuff in the game) and probably some to Fury as well.

Well deserved IMO. Warriors are doing WAY too much DPS.

[Plaeroma]

Not to say the nerf to enrage isn't justified, but sweet jesus that makes me cry on the inside.

[Zehn - Vhex]

It seems Fangtooth simply rerolled!

[OneArmedScissor]

Originally Posted by Ahnkosis

What's stupid is Enrage has already been appropriately nerfed for 2h users. Back a patch or two ago, they took down the duration to 12s (effectively 3 swings for a 2h user) and a maximum of 12 swings.

That really wasn't a nerf for 2h users, it was a buff for dual wielders. The old enrage was the 40% bonus for 5 attacks. Even with a 2 hander you should be able to get in rougly 5 or more attacks if you include auto attack + ms(possible twice within that duration) and whirlwind within 12 seconds.

I don't play my warrior much anymore but really a 31/20(MS + enrage) was overpowered, especially considering group pvp. Enrage can stay at the 40% bonus they just need to move it to tier 5 and make it a 4 point talent so that you can go full enrage + flurry 5 + death wish + bloodthirst all within 31 points rather than 32 if enrage is a 5 point talent. Then just move improved slam and intercept to tier 4 so that a 20sec cooldown intercept, 10 rage execute, piercing howl and improved battle shout can be the "perks" of a 31/20 build rather than enrage.

[blindeye]

dude anything goes in the wow general forums as you probably already know. logic and reason are void there, and you check your sanity at the door when you walk in.