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Old 12-19-2005, 01:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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no but i've met furor -once- and tigole- once-i think(eq fan faires) and know tigole and rob pardo from my eq server (they were on my server) as well as a couple of other employees of blizzard..
Ah, was just wondering because I know you were in Friends and Family alpha/beta and you're always on the ball with these subscription udates.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:48 PM   #17 (permalink)
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F&F was from an ex-eq monk guildmate of mine who works for blizzard in the art department...
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:58 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Er it sure is pretty large, but it isn't larger than the rest of the industry. The Koreans have an absolutely disgusting number of people playing Lineage 1/2 and other games.
But remember that those Korean numbers also include accounts in internet cafes, so the number is probably grossly overcounted.
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I dont know where this declines going to end. This is crazy stuff. Worse than I've ever seen. I remember 2002, with the markets tanking, everyone was panicing... going haywire... someone was saying how its terrible and it doesnt look like stopping. One trader said something like 'wtf do you want? bruce willis on a meteorite? This is what market bottoms are made off', he pretty much bought the low. His nickname was digits for a while, coz his account was growing by them monthly.
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:59 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I'm guessing you meant genre and not industry, because Blizzard is hardly a latecomer to the video game industry. That alone is one of the biggest determining factors in WoW's success.

PS: Len, do you have family at Blizzard?
I mean MMO industry, not gaming industry.
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I dont know where this declines going to end. This is crazy stuff. Worse than I've ever seen. I remember 2002, with the markets tanking, everyone was panicing... going haywire... someone was saying how its terrible and it doesnt look like stopping. One trader said something like 'wtf do you want? bruce willis on a meteorite? This is what market bottoms are made off', he pretty much bought the low. His nickname was digits for a while, coz his account was growing by them monthly.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:05 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I wouldn't consider MMO's an industry unto themselves. I would consider them a genre in the gaming industry. And World of Warcraft came into that genre with an extremely recognizable name attached to it. Maybe that's just me, though.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:07 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I judge WoW's like this: my group of friends are NOT gamers. They never have been. I never play MP games because I can't stand the standard cockmunchers out there, and none of my RL friends play (okay, a couple play Starcraft from time to time, and back in the day I DM'd them into submission in Quake over modem, they pretty much gave up after that). Video games in general don't really come up in my standard conversations with them, with the exception of Tiger Woods (couple guys play that a fair amount).

I'm now starting to hear, from time to time, friends mentioning hearing about WoW and wondering what it is, or them talking about soandso's husband/boyfriend who got laid off from work (unrelated to the game) and who now just sits on his ass and plays WoW. It's going mainstream. When I played Everquest I got made fun of on a regular basis, now I've got half a dozen aquaintences that play it or know someone who play it.

I think that's only a good thing, because those people are undoubtedly going to try other online games after that. Like Aradune's been saying for years, each successive new game hasn't leached players from the ones before it, it's expanded the market for that kind of game. And WoW is completely blowing it open.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:16 PM   #22 (permalink)
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And WoW is completely blowing it open.
Full of fucktards.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:17 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I agree Eomer. It's really what makes the threads where people who argue over the games' subscriptions to be retarded. It reminds of when people argue over which console is better. When it comes down to it, the more competition there is in any industry(gaming, automobiles, electronics, etc), the consumers are the winners.

I think WoW bringing MMO gaming to the masses is a good thing, in the big picture of MMO's.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:00 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Meh, the average person is an idiot. Welcome to the world we live in.
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$900 million a year before expenses.

Sooo... What's with the shitty servers?
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:10 PM   #26 (permalink)
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$900 million a year before expenses.

Sooo... What's with the shitty servers?

And where is the fucking content? where is my fucking expansion? I gotta wait 2 years for one to hit?

But gratz to blizz for the numbers.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:17 PM   #27 (permalink)
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$900 million a year before expenses.

Sooo... What's with the shitty servers?
Tigole and Furor have to take their cut since they like made and ruined wow... you know how it is.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:22 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Offically, most of us could care less. Why is this a thread again?
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:26 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I judge WoW's like this: my group of friends are NOT gamers. They never have been. I never play MP games because I can't stand the standard cockmunchers out there, and none of my RL friends play (okay, a couple play Starcraft from time to time, and back in the day I DM'd them into submission in Quake over modem, they pretty much gave up after that). Video games in general don't really come up in my standard conversations with them, with the exception of Tiger Woods (couple guys play that a fair amount).

I'm now starting to hear, from time to time, friends mentioning hearing about WoW and wondering what it is, or them talking about soandso's husband/boyfriend who got laid off from work (unrelated to the game) and who now just sits on his ass and plays WoW. It's going mainstream. When I played Everquest I got made fun of on a regular basis, now I've got half a dozen aquaintences that play it or know someone who play it.

I think that's only a good thing, because those people are undoubtedly going to try other online games after that. Like Aradune's been saying for years, each successive new game hasn't leached players from the ones before it, it's expanded the market for that kind of game. And WoW is completely blowing it open.
That's how I see it as well.

In EQ, two nerds I worked with at Pizza Hut played it and got me into it. Noone else knew what it was and those who did refused to play it and used to call the three of us the "Everdorks".

Now like 4 people at my restaurant job play WoW (only one of which I would classify as a "nerd"), at least a dozen EMTs at the station play it (if not more). I know 4 women who play, two of which are smoking hotties who you would never imagine would play any video game yet alone an MMO. And the topper is my brother playing it. Mr. Jock, Mr. Star Soccer player, Mr. perfect anti-geek, now plays an MMO....more than I do.

And honestly, I think it's only a good thing.
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:30 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Yeah like my neighbor down the street. Like 38+ at least, married with kids has a 60 shaman.

I asked him if he played mmog before and he said yeah, Call of Duty lol.

He didnt even know what BWL was.
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