WTB Vanguard Infoz...

DisgruntledOrangatang · 09-20-2005, 08:42 AM

Has any new Vanguard information been released at all in the past month or at all besides those two pictures that were found on that german Vanguard site? I remember everyone was predicting Beta 1 would be around 'Late August, early September' and well it is almost October and not even anything new has been posted, no class descriptions no nothing. Yeah I am just excited for it and the lack of information about anything at all is driving me nuts. Braen use your sources fewl!

Here's to hoping Beta 1 is happening within a month >_<

Mkopec1 · 09-20-2005, 08:56 AM

I think they are mking a huge marketing mistake by keeping shit hidden and wrapped up behind their NDA.

If they have the balls to stand up behind their game, then ket the world know about it, like in WoW.

People talkin about the game=good advertizing.

Hiding your shit behind a shell with a screenshot here and there= lame.

nyx · 09-20-2005, 09:00 AM

Yeah it really has me worried to. I've never seen those forums so lacking dev posts as I have now.

My gut is telling me they had to assess what they had so far and realized they had to change many things: Crunch time, and heads rolling.

The Bog · 09-20-2005, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mkopec1

I think they are mking a huge marketing mistake by keeping shit hidden and wrapped up behind their NDA.

If they have the balls to stand up behind their game, then ket the world know about it, like in WoW.

People talkin about the game=good advertizing.

Hiding your shit behind a shell with a screenshot here and there= lame.

Apart from, of course, WoW's release having a whole set of spoilers there, ready and waiting, once it got released. That, and you could see the devs lying through their teeth about what was coming.

James · 09-20-2005, 09:03 AM

Maybe animation overhaul?

The Bog · 09-20-2005, 09:04 AM

Maybe they lost the grey/brown colours in 3d Max.

Eomer · 09-20-2005, 09:08 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd imagine WoW went through a phase of closed beta where there were NDA's and limited info releases. Vanguard may simply be at a point right now where there's not a whole lot of stuff to release, because they're figuring out how to implement and tune all their wacky ideas. The game's not being released before the new year anyway, there'll be a time and place to get lots of info.

Nebuchadnezzar · 09-20-2005, 09:10 AM

WoW's Alpha was covered with an NDA, but beta was open. Of course, Vanguard's beta 0 is really about at the same level as WoW's Alpha from what I've seen of it.

Fammaden · 09-20-2005, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mkopec1

I think they are mking a huge marketing mistake by keeping shit hidden and wrapped up behind their NDA.

If they have the balls to stand up behind their game, then ket the world know about it, like in WoW.

People talkin about the game=good advertizing.

Hiding your shit behind a shell with a screenshot here and there= lame.

Yes, and since WoW was so successful, every new MMO should just copy whatever they did to ensure success...

WoW was the exception. All their balls don't mean shit to us now that they are releasing the same buggy untested raid content as any developer ever did before, with the pleasant recent exception of ZG.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyx

My gut is telling me they had to assess what they had so far and realized they had to change many things: Crunch time, and heads rolling.

I have been suspecting the same thing. Hopefully if they are overhauling something then it is in fact models and animations. That seems to be everyone's biggest gripe and my only real concern so far. Their ideas for gameplay are quite intriguing to me and the environments and world have always seemed very promising. At any rate, if they are taking more time to fix shit I am glad they are doing it now rather than after the game is mostly ready to ship. I guess it could also be a matter of having run into a problem so grave that they just can't continue with it in place though. =/

Usha Starchild · 09-20-2005, 09:25 AM

I would prefer they do all the testing in house and under wraps if they have a really really kick ass QC team. The worst thing about games today is people know how to beat them before they come out.

Strat guides, walk throughs, item lists, spawn points, maps etc all before the game goes live.

THAT SUCKS.

Behemoth · 09-20-2005, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mkopec1

I think they are mking a huge marketing mistake by keeping shit hidden and wrapped up behind their NDA.

If they have the balls to stand up behind their game, then ket the world know about it, like in WoW.

People talkin about the game=good advertizing.

Hiding your shit behind a shell with a screenshot here and there= lame.

Maybe they are doing some new cool shit and don't want the other companies to know about them early enough that they could borrow the ideas before release?

Maybe they don't want a thottbott with all the items, npcs etc available in the game upon release?

Vorph · 09-20-2005, 09:32 AM

NDAs are a good thing, for both the game and the players. I hope there's an NDA in place for Vanguard right up until the stress testing beta.

Obtenor · 09-20-2005, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bog

Maybe they lost the grey/brown colours in 3d Max.

I would like to be the first one to say:

QFT

Fammaden · 09-20-2005, 09:41 AM

I hope they keep the NDA on as a requirement of buying the game at retail! Then no one could talk about the game except on double secret message board havens only accessible by subscribers! That way no one can quit and then sit around for years telling us why the game is so bad after they spent a month getting to level 12.

DisgruntledOrangatang · 09-20-2005, 09:42 AM

Man peple need to stop that QFT bandwagon shit. I ain't seem that on these forums (I am going to say en masse, though my memory which is known to be wrong recalls never seeing it) then all of a sudden in one week every other fucking thread is QFT QFT QFT.

Anyway yeah that is probably what has happened they probably ran into a speed bump and are like ...shit guys...what the fuck are we going to do. Watch it be something like one of the main new innovative features they are including lol. Would be funny, but make me sad because I want Vanguard to succeed and wow (no pun intended) me.

PS Fammaden: Galrokk owns you

09-20-2005, 08:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
DisgruntledOrangatang Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 836 -1 Internets	WTB Vanguard Infoz... Has any new Vanguard information been released at all in the past month or at all besides those two pictures that were found on that german Vanguard site? I remember everyone was predicting Beta 1 would be around 'Late August, early September' and well it is almost October and not even anything new has been posted, no class descriptions no nothing. Yeah I am just excited for it and the lack of information about anything at all is driving me nuts. Braen use your sources fewl! Here's to hoping Beta 1 is happening within a month >_< __________________ "Talk all you want, but when I say I'm going to kill you, there's nothing you can do but die"

09-20-2005, 08:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
Mkopec1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 4,964	I think they are mking a huge marketing mistake by keeping shit hidden and wrapped up behind their NDA. If they have the balls to stand up behind their game, then ket the world know about it, like in WoW. People talkin about the game=good advertizing. Hiding your shit behind a shell with a screenshot here and there= lame. __________________ When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I only think about how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong.

09-20-2005, 09:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
Nebuchadnezzar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,536 -2 Internets	WoW's Alpha was covered with an NDA, but beta was open. Of course, Vanguard's beta 0 is really about at the same level as WoW's Alpha from what I've seen of it. __________________ I eat grass like an ox and shat like a fox.

09-20-2005, 09:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
Vorph Never Go Full Retard Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 5,297	NDAs are a good thing, for both the game and the players. I hope there's an NDA in place for Vanguard right up until the stress testing beta. __________________

09-20-2005, 09:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
Fammaden Treats objects like women. Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Posts: 2,561 +2 Internets	I hope they keep the NDA on as a requirement of buying the game at retail! Then no one could talk about the game except on double secret message board havens only accessible by subscribers! That way no one can quit and then sit around for years telling us why the game is so bad after they spent a month getting to level 12. __________________ Fammaden - Wizard - Saryrn (Retired) WoW: Shaman/Mage/Hunter/Paladin

09-20-2005, 09:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
nyx Victorian Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 283 +0 Internets	Yeah it really has me worried to. I've never seen those forums so lacking dev posts as I have now. My gut is telling me they had to assess what they had so far and realized they had to change many things: Crunch time, and heads rolling.

09-20-2005, 09:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
The Bog The troll who sold the world Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: State College, PA Posts: 2,699 -1 Internets	Maybe they lost the grey/brown colours in 3d Max.

09-20-2005, 09:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
Eomer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,445 +28 Internets	Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd imagine WoW went through a phase of closed beta where there were NDA's and limited info releases. Vanguard may simply be at a point right now where there's not a whole lot of stuff to release, because they're figuring out how to implement and tune all their wacky ideas. The game's not being released before the new year anyway, there'll be a time and place to get lots of info.

09-20-2005, 09:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
Usha Starchild Whatever I touch turns to Rickshaw. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 941 -3 Internets	I would prefer they do all the testing in house and under wraps if they have a really really kick ass QC team. The worst thing about games today is people know how to beat them before they come out. Strat guides, walk throughs, item lists, spawn points, maps etc all before the game goes live. THAT SUCKS.

09-20-2005, 09:42 AM	#15 (permalink)
DisgruntledOrangatang Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 836 -1 Internets	Man peple need to stop that QFT bandwagon shit. I ain't seem that on these forums (I am going to say en masse, though my memory which is known to be wrong recalls never seeing it) then all of a sudden in one week every other fucking thread is QFT QFT QFT. Anyway yeah that is probably what has happened they probably ran into a speed bump and are like ...shit guys...what the fuck are we going to do. Watch it be something like one of the main new innovative features they are including lol. Would be funny, but make me sad because I want Vanguard to succeed and wow (no pun intended) me. PS Fammaden: Galrokk owns you __________________ "Talk all you want, but when I say I'm going to kill you, there's nothing you can do but die" Last edited by DisgruntledOrangatang : 09-20-2005 at 09:45 AM.

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