Blizzard says OK to Horde imbalance in WSG

Cybsled · 09-01-2005, 06:10 AM

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We see a lot of complaints / petitions about players using the terrain in front of the Horde graveyard to go up and down the hill. Since both factions can run up and down this hill without any help or cheats, and it neither hinders nor gives the other side an advantage, GMs will not be punishing players for this issue.

Rofl fucking bullshit. The Horde GY wall is a massive advantage. This stance to me just translates as "We are too lazy to modify the zone file to prevent this, deal with it". Is it so hard to add a frickin fence or something?

Fris_Leafshadow · 09-01-2005, 06:11 AM

On my server, a Horde flag runner uses that more then the tunnel or ramp. The only time it really helps alliance is if we are farming their GY before they AFK out or we cap the last flag.

Lweniel · 09-01-2005, 06:46 AM

Got a link to that quote?

Yes, I'm lazy.

Keltan · 09-01-2005, 06:56 AM

Source Link

FuckYou · 09-01-2005, 07:08 AM

I stopped pursuing WSG some time ago. It's not real PvP since "victory" can be accomplished without even touching another player, it's rife with faggotry in terms of AFK'ing out and exploiting, and it all around just isnt fun.

Beluyen · 09-01-2005, 07:22 AM

My biggest gripe with WSG is the rez timers. It needs to either be a set time before you are able to rez, or you rez with low hp/mana. Clearing out the flag room only to have the same people there AE fearing / healing the carrier five seconds later is beyond retarded. Or killing the same people 4+ times on one run from tunnel exit to the other tunnel's entrance (not everyone can be a shaman/druid afterall, pretty easy to catch up to a normal carrier on a mount). You can completely dominate another team, yet still be unable to return the flag because they're zerging out of their GY - it's just lame.

Cad · 09-01-2005, 07:24 AM

4 times? So it takes you 2 minutes + to run from one base to another?

You know hitting / on the number pad takes you out of "walk" mode right?

nature · 09-01-2005, 07:27 AM

They also said you losers can keep exploiting MC+BoP, so kindly shut the fuck up.

Ameraves Loyalheart · 09-01-2005, 07:30 AM

Yeah, saw that last night and was pretty surprised they are taking this stance. It adds a shorter quicker way for Horde to get their flag to their room, and another place alliance has to try and defend. How they see this as not giving an advantage is beyond me.

On a side note however, it is really cool to see them finally making a post on a few issues that people have been asking about and just wanted a straight answer. Why it takes months for this kind of response baffles me though.

Beluyen · 09-01-2005, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cad

4 times? So it takes you 2 minutes + to run from one base to another?

You know hitting / on the number pad takes you out of "walk" mode right?

That was a brilliant reply. Let's get crazy and assume that the opposing team doesn't all magically die at the same instant, meaning they're coming at the carrier staggered - snaring/rooting/fearing/sheeping/stunning/whatever.....because they die and are able to rez with full hp/mana sometimes within a couple of seconds.

Cybsled · 09-01-2005, 07:45 AM

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They also said you losers can keep exploiting MC+BoP, so kindly shut the fuck up.

That is being resolved in 1.7 patch. So is the Gavel.

The GY exploit is remaining though.

Feel free to place a foot in your mouth at this time.

Marauder · 09-01-2005, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FuckYou

I stopped pursuing WSG some time ago. It's not real PvP since "victory" can be accomplished without even touching another player, it's rife with faggotry in terms of AFK'ing out and exploiting, and it all around just isnt fun.

CP isn't even earned anymore through actual PvP.
Well, at least on our server.

Basically you have teams running 20-30 minute wins nonstop in AV - farming it... and of course that means 90% of their killing is against NPCs. Hell you get 5000-6100 CP for killing vannadar, and 13 CP for killing a High Marshal in a raid - which diminishes to 0! EXCELLENT (cause someone might exploit that 13 CP in AV... must have diminishing returns in bg's!)...

PvP atm is neither about skill nor PvP - its about who can play the most, and who can get all the non-retards in a single raid nonstop in AV. Our server's high warlord for the last 5 weeks was a guy who plays 19 hours a day. He got nearly a million CP last week.

I'm glad to know that PvP is almost as fucked up as the PvE in this game... almost. It reassures me that its more of a global issue with the game, and not just the part I care about.

Cad · 09-01-2005, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Beluyen

That was a brilliant reply. Let's get crazy and assume that the opposing team doesn't all magically die at the same instant, meaning they're coming at the carrier staggered - snaring/rooting/fearing/sheeping/stunning/whatever.....because they die and are able to rez with full hp/mana sometimes within a couple of seconds.

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Originally Posted by Beluyen

Or killing the same people 4+ times on one run from tunnel exit to the other tunnel's entrance (not everyone can be a shaman/druid afterall, pretty easy to catch up to a normal carrier on a mount).

You said kill the same player 4+ times. The rezzes only come every 30 seconds so that would take 2+ minutes. Simple math.

Cybsled · 09-01-2005, 08:19 AM

You're assuming the guy first dies and gets to the GY with a 30second wait. Many times you die and pop at the GY with the message, "Ressurection will take place in 2 seconds". Hey look, I'm back in teh battle!

Feral · 09-01-2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FuckYou

I stopped pursuing WSG some time ago. It's not real PvP since "victory" can be accomplished without even touching another player, it's rife with faggotry in terms of AFK'ing out and exploiting, and it all around just isnt fun.

Plus you did virtually no damage to me when I ran by in bearform with your flag

10k armor 6k hp ftw!

09-01-2005, 06:56 AM	#4 (permalink)
Keltan Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 239 +0 Internets	Source Link __________________ Tarkis of Garona, Orc Hunter

09-01-2005, 07:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
FuckYou snape kills razorgore Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,713 -1 Internets	I stopped pursuing WSG some time ago. It's not real PvP since "victory" can be accomplished without even touching another player, it's rife with faggotry in terms of AFK'ing out and exploiting, and it all around just isnt fun. __________________ vagoo the belf paladin and yiff the belf rogue just the tip - black dragonflight

09-01-2005, 08:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,269 +15 Internets	You're assuming the guy first dies and gets to the GY with a 30second wait. Many times you die and pop at the GY with the message, "Ressurection will take place in 2 seconds". Hey look, I'm back in teh battle! __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

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09-01-2005, 06:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lweniel Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 93 +1 Internets	Got a link to that quote? Yes, I'm lazy.

09-01-2005, 07:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
Beluyen Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 81 +0 Internets	My biggest gripe with WSG is the rez timers. It needs to either be a set time before you are able to rez, or you rez with low hp/mana. Clearing out the flag room only to have the same people there AE fearing / healing the carrier five seconds later is beyond retarded. Or killing the same people 4+ times on one run from tunnel exit to the other tunnel's entrance (not everyone can be a shaman/druid afterall, pretty easy to catch up to a normal carrier on a mount). You can completely dominate another team, yet still be unable to return the flag because they're zerging out of their GY - it's just lame.

09-01-2005, 07:24 AM	#7 (permalink)
Cad Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 5,291	4 times? So it takes you 2 minutes + to run from one base to another? You know hitting / on the number pad takes you out of "walk" mode right?

09-01-2005, 07:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
nature w-hat Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The Left Coast Posts: 158 +0 Internets	They also said you losers can keep exploiting MC+BoP, so kindly shut the fuck up.

09-01-2005, 07:30 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ameraves Loyalheart Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 949 +0 Internets	Yeah, saw that last night and was pretty surprised they are taking this stance. It adds a shorter quicker way for Horde to get their flag to their room, and another place alliance has to try and defend. How they see this as not giving an advantage is beyond me. On a side note however, it is really cool to see them finally making a post on a few issues that people have been asking about and just wanted a straight answer. Why it takes months for this kind of response baffles me though.