Why does Blizzard nerf toys?

Cybsled · 08-31-2005, 05:32 PM

On test, world enlarger doesnt stack with other shrink effects ;(

That was my favorite toy in the game when combined in that fashion. It's not like it could be used in pvp...the second you attack, the effect wore off. And it's not like it was a graphics issue like the old "godzilla" growth stacking was.

KianwanCT · 08-31-2005, 05:34 PM

Because creative thinking by the playerbase is either an exploit or unintended and should be fixed ASAP.

Phoenix · 08-31-2005, 05:49 PM

Blizzard was gay for this, no really fun items.

Noggenfogger = last 10 minutes
Orb of Deception = last 5 minutes 30 minute recast
World enlarger = last 5 minutes, long recast, breaks if hit.
Furbolg wand = last 5 minutes, breaks if hit

AoN kicked ass back in EQ, but we all know hard it is for blizzard to properly implement basic game mechanics.

Malakriss · 08-31-2005, 05:53 PM

Mark of the Dragon Lord buff USED to persist when the ring was removed, but then they made it Admiral's Hat style but on an item that has a SELF-only buff with a 30minute cooldown.

Should be a green item with that shit. It's happily taking up a slot in my bank.

Talzar · 08-31-2005, 05:55 PM

Because it's pretty hard to see someone running with the flag when they look tiny. Also, world enlarger does not break when you get hit, it breaks when you perform something combat related (ie: cast a spell, attack a target, etc...) if someone attacks you, it does not wear off.

Phoenix · 08-31-2005, 05:58 PM

Oh, same difference then.

This reminds me, I once had a friend who was shrunk by noggenfogger and then shrunk again by gnomish shrink ray. Was just as small as world enlarger.

Cybsled · 08-31-2005, 05:59 PM

Bs on the flag running

1) the light trail gives you away

2) you glow like a radioactive fish

3) Why is this a concern, but bullshit speed stacking rogues or druids are not? It's not like this is reusable more then once a game (assuming it doesnt go over an hour)

Talzar · 08-31-2005, 06:01 PM

When you're shrunk that small the light trail is miniscule. The flag resizes appropriately.

Cybsled · 08-31-2005, 06:13 PM

The flag resizes, but the light trail is still very visible.

And if the issue is WSG then...hold on...make it unusable in WSG! Wow...that was easy.

Iannis · 08-31-2005, 06:13 PM

Then perhaps they should've realized people would exploit the fact being tiny, and thus hard to see and/or target, is a big advantage in PvP and simply made it so that running about with a flag breaks being itty bitty sized.

heehee look at how iddy biddy that night elf is. That's just plain cute. and i despise night elves!

oknedark · 08-31-2005, 06:33 PM

Agree with Iannis. Seriously, so the solution to flag running when shrunk is to outright make the effect not stack at all, any time, anywhere? I know quite a lot of people who got a kick out of seeing someone tiny running around, and it was just generally a cool thing to fool around with.

How hard is it to make it so you can't carry a flag while under the effect of world enlargement? If BGs are really so buggy that the solution is nerf the shrink stacking across the board, then their code is shittier than I thought.

ilian · 08-31-2005, 06:46 PM

The following is an uncofirmed rumor I heard:

Supposedly there is an exploit people were using on Chromaggus to shrink themselves to avoid the line of sight of check of Chromaggus' AoE easier.

Dynalisia · 08-31-2005, 06:51 PM

Flag running is one thing, but this trick strike me especially useful to someone who would want to *hide* with the flag...

Phoenix · 08-31-2005, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynalisia

Flag running is one thing, but this trick strike me especially useful to someone who would want to *hide* with the flag...

It only last for 5 minutes.

If you lose WSG because of this, you suck.

Tolanin · 08-31-2005, 07:47 PM

i am just wanting for the day when i log on test and see that dartols rod is only 3 charges =/

08-31-2005, 05:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,268 +15 Internets	Why does Blizzard nerf toys? On test, world enlarger doesnt stack with other shrink effects ;( That was my favorite toy in the game when combined in that fashion. It's not like it could be used in pvp...the second you attack, the effect wore off. And it's not like it was a graphics issue like the old "godzilla" growth stacking was. __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

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Talzar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 109 -4 Internets	Because it's pretty hard to see someone running with the flag when they look tiny. Also, world enlarger does not break when you get hit, it breaks when you perform something combat related (ie: cast a spell, attack a target, etc...) if someone attacks you, it does not wear off. Attached Images

08-31-2005, 05:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,268 +15 Internets	Bs on the flag running 1) the light trail gives you away 2) you glow like a radioactive fish 3) Why is this a concern, but bullshit speed stacking rogues or druids are not? It's not like this is reusable more then once a game (assuming it doesnt go over an hour) __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

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Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,268 +15 Internets	The flag resizes, but the light trail is still very visible. And if the issue is WSG then...hold on...make it unusable in WSG! Wow...that was easy. __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

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08-31-2005, 05:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
KianwanCT Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 320	Because creative thinking by the playerbase is either an exploit or unintended and should be fixed ASAP.

08-31-2005, 05:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Malakriss Your lack of intelligence is an insult to humanity. Get a fucking clue Join Date: May 2002 Location: Obviousville Posts: 2,774	Mark of the Dragon Lord buff USED to persist when the ring was removed, but then they made it Admiral's Hat style but on an item that has a SELF-only buff with a 30minute cooldown. Should be a green item with that shit. It's happily taking up a slot in my bank.

08-31-2005, 06:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Talzar Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 109 -4 Internets	When you're shrunk that small the light trail is miniscule. The flag resizes appropriately.

08-31-2005, 06:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
Iannis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Butt Hugging Moose Jockey Posts: 4,968 +0 Internets	Then perhaps they should've realized people would exploit the fact being tiny, and thus hard to see and/or target, is a big advantage in PvP and simply made it so that running about with a flag breaks being itty bitty sized. heehee look at how iddy biddy that night elf is. That's just plain cute. and i despise night elves!

08-31-2005, 06:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
oknedark Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 459 +0 Internets	Agree with Iannis. Seriously, so the solution to flag running when shrunk is to outright make the effect not stack at all, any time, anywhere? I know quite a lot of people who got a kick out of seeing someone tiny running around, and it was just generally a cool thing to fool around with. How hard is it to make it so you can't carry a flag while under the effect of world enlargement? If BGs are really so buggy that the solution is nerf the shrink stacking across the board, then their code is shittier than I thought.

08-31-2005, 06:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
ilian Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 375 -1 Internets	The following is an uncofirmed rumor I heard: Supposedly there is an exploit people were using on Chromaggus to shrink themselves to avoid the line of sight of check of Chromaggus' AoE easier.

08-31-2005, 06:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dynalisia Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The land of sunshine Posts: 1,480 -4 Internets	Flag running is one thing, but this trick strike me especially useful to someone who would want to hide with the flag...

08-31-2005, 07:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
Tolanin h8 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,883 -15 Internets	i am just wanting for the day when i log on test and see that dartols rod is only 3 charges =/