Flag hack?

Algol Devilstar · 07-20-2005, 06:25 PM

AF on our server have been capping flag with it still being in our base. Anyone know whats going on? Extremely frustrating to lose when there is no message of our flag being taken and caps happening extremely fast. Last loss I was staring at our flag ( no indication of it being taken) and then suddenly game over.

Suineg · 07-20-2005, 07:56 PM

It's Blizzard and noone hacks Blizzard games.

Blizzard won't have so many hacks like D2 in an MMORPG.

I doubt it is a hack but a bug.

Etc....etc...etc.....

Zarcath · 07-20-2005, 08:07 PM

Come on now, everyone knows it's impossible to hack a MMO!

Ravvenn · 07-20-2005, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algol Devilstar

AF on our server have been capping flag with it still being in our base. Anyone know whats going on? Extremely frustrating to lose when there is no message of our flag being taken and caps happening extremely fast. Last loss I was staring at our flag ( no indication of it being taken) and then suddenly game over.

Maybe they duped flags.

You can start a whole new conspiracy. A plot of intrigue and deceit. Perhaps they start their days by standing outside the Maraudon instance with Warsong flags and trade them off to each other until they have enough to insta-win 50 games.

Yes, that must be it! Go with it straight to the top. Blue owes you an answer.

Morphyous · 07-20-2005, 08:26 PM

Flag dupe I believe. Something along the lines of picking flag up at the moment the server spawns another flag for you. I'm not sure if this happened to you though.

Digo · 07-20-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Morphyous

Flag dupe I believe. Something along the lines of picking flag up at the moment the server spawns another flag for you. I'm not sure if this happened to you though.

Correct. I was under the impression they had fixed this, but apparently it rears its head again. Report the people that use this sploit. MMORPGs keep logs of damn near everything, so I'm willing to bet that with a little investigation, they could see the bogus move and find a more permanent solution.

Shiftin · 07-20-2005, 10:15 PM

reported a guy on our server doing this and the GMs "looked into it" and "found nothing wrong with his actions"

Jait · 07-20-2005, 11:17 PM

Accio Flag?

Algol Devilstar · 07-21-2005, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravvenn

Maybe they duped flags.

You can start a whole new conspiracy. A plot of intrigue and deceit. Perhaps they start their days by standing outside the Maraudon instance with Warsong flags and trade them off to each other until they have enough to insta-win 50 games.

Yes, that must be it! Go with it straight to the top. Blue owes you an answer.

Wow, I see the Gestapo has come over to condemn my posting of ACTUAL experiences. You see, I didnt hear my girlfriend talking about this one, I was fucking there on defense the whole time. This board is like one of those utopian societies where nothing is wrong, but once you start to dig you find they are all fucked up. Let me clue you into something Ravenna, I like WoW - no I love WoW. So the only reason I would post this shit is to see if I am wasting my time playing CTF. I'm so sorry you found it so offensive that you just have to take a potshot, but not surprised given your track record.

So in ending: Remember guys, no matter how important the bug... if it's about WoW then do not say anything, because WoW is perfect and Ravenna is here to make damn sure of it. You take this game way too seriously.

Edit: Oops spelled your name wrong, oh well.

Algol Devilstar · 07-21-2005, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiftin

reported a guy on our server doing this and the GMs "looked into it" and "found nothing wrong with his actions"

Don't worry Ravenna will make sure that we never talk of this again!

Froofy-D · 07-21-2005, 09:42 PM

There is definitely a bug where somehow 2 of one side's flags exist. I saw it happen in a game once.

Draz · 07-21-2005, 10:52 PM

It has happened to us once, we picked the flag up right before the other team was about to cap. It gave us a flag and also gave them a cap. While we still had their flag, another flag popped up you could pick that flag up also.

Parabola · 07-22-2005, 07:20 AM

It's possible to dupe flags and it can be reproduced at will.

Thhin · 07-22-2005, 10:13 AM

Care to post how so this exploit can get fixed? (and hopefully take gay ass 10 min fear ward with it too)

07-22-2005, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algol Devilstar

AF on our server have been capping flag with it still being in our base. Anyone know whats going on? Extremely frustrating to lose when there is no message of our flag being taken and caps happening extremely fast. Last loss I was staring at our flag ( no indication of it being taken) and then suddenly game over.

Flag duping. It took me a while to figure out how it's done, but I managed to do it somewhat 90% of the time by hand, 100% time via Nostromo gamepad.

By hand ...
Grab the red flag, run to a safe spot.
Drop the flag ... (click off the icon)
Time it right, regrab flag before it returns to base.

If you do it right, you can grab a copy of the flag at the same time it returns to the base. You now have a duped flag.

They'll guard their flag thinking it's in the base, while you take your time getting back to your base.

You can capture their flag WHILE they have a copy in their base.

Using gamepad with macro's ...
Make a macro that does a left-mouse click, pause, left-mouse click.
(pause time amount left undisclosed on purpose.)
Place cursor over flag icon, hit macro key on gamepad. (Drops flag)
Move cursor to where flag appears.
Macro will grab flag after x.xx time.

If you have fast ping times you can dupe the flag at will by adjusting the time delay of the pause in the macro.

I detailed all of this including screenshots and forwarded it off to Blizzard.
Reply was along the lines of what I was experiencing was caused by latency.

Canned response if you ask me.

Simple fix ... when flag spawns at base, kill all occurence of other flags. (same color)

07-20-2005, 06:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Algol Devilstar Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The NW Posts: 3,497 +0 Internets	Flag hack? AF on our server have been capping flag with it still being in our base. Anyone know whats going on? Extremely frustrating to lose when there is no message of our flag being taken and caps happening extremely fast. Last loss I was staring at our flag ( no indication of it being taken) and then suddenly game over.

07-20-2005, 07:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Suineg Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,783 -11 Internets	It's Blizzard and noone hacks Blizzard games. Blizzard won't have so many hacks like D2 in an MMORPG. I doubt it is a hack but a bug. Etc....etc...etc..... __________________

07-20-2005, 08:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Morphyous Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 367 -2 Internets	Flag dupe I believe. Something along the lines of picking flag up at the moment the server spawns another flag for you. I'm not sure if this happened to you though. __________________ -Fix Priest Racials.

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07-20-2005, 08:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
Zarcath Lead Farmer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hawaii Posts: 5,072 +12 Internets	Come on now, everyone knows it's impossible to hack a MMO!

07-20-2005, 10:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
Shiftin Requiem for an MMORPG Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 115 -1 Internets	reported a guy on our server doing this and the GMs "looked into it" and "found nothing wrong with his actions"

07-20-2005, 11:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jait Irritable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 3,452	Accio Flag?

07-21-2005, 09:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
Froofy-D upper management material Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,969 +5 Internets	There is definitely a bug where somehow 2 of one side's flags exist. I saw it happen in a game once.

07-21-2005, 10:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
Draz (P^_^)-P (x_X) Q-(^_^Q) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 360 -4 Internets	It has happened to us once, we picked the flag up right before the other team was about to cap. It gave us a flag and also gave them a cap. While we still had their flag, another flag popped up you could pick that flag up also.

07-22-2005, 07:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
Parabola Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 125 +0 Internets	It's possible to dupe flags and it can be reproduced at will.

07-22-2005, 10:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
Thhin Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Land of the Lotus Eaters Posts: 707 +0 Internets	Care to post how so this exploit can get fixed? (and hopefully take gay ass 10 min fear ward with it too)