Intentional PvP lag programs?

Chantado · 07-12-2005, 01:52 PM

I've noticed this quite a lot lately. When dueling melee characters, it seems a lot are using something that is making them lag like crazy, which makes them hard to hit via melee or spells. It's like playing CS against people that have a 900 ping time. You swear you shot them in the fucking head but nope. Then they up and kill you out of nowhere.

To try to understand this problem, I would stalk people that had this lag issue. One thing i've noticed is that, when they are pvping, they bounce around like crazy, no fluidlike motion at all. Once they've had their kill, they'll stop for a second, then they come back and start moving fluidly again. What the fuck is this shit? It's becoming rampant on my server and it's very hard to deal with these people as a caster because you'll be facing them and constantly get "you must be facing your target" errors. Are they using some sort of bandwidth limited so that they get massive packet loss? I swear they're alt tabbing and turning some shit on and off to cause this lag.. Anyone familiar with this stuff and have any possible solutions for it?

Itzena · 07-12-2005, 01:54 PM

Edit: Gogo misreading the post.

kudos · 07-12-2005, 02:20 PM

I've seen people do something like you've mentioned on Laughing Skull. Yesterday there was a rogue in WSG that seemed to teleport around me until he killed me.

venom · 07-12-2005, 02:51 PM

Noticed a rogue in WSG that did this yesterday. First time I've ever seen that kind of lag in WoW. Very reminiscent of FPS lag.

Wodin · 07-12-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by venom

Noticed a rogue in WSG that did this yesterday. First time I've ever seen that kind of lag in WoW. Very reminiscent of FPS lag.

Sprint can cause this, but it's sporadic and depends on the number of players in the area.

kudos · 07-12-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wodin

Sprint can cause this, but it's sporadic and depends on the number of players in the area.

It wasnt sprint because there was no trail behind him.

oknedark · 07-12-2005, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chantado

I've noticed this quite a lot lately. When dueling melee characters, it seems a lot are using something that is making them lag like crazy, which makes them hard to hit via melee or spells. It's like playing CS against people that have a 900 ping time. You swear you shot them in the fucking head but nope. Then they up and kill you out of nowhere.

To try to understand this problem, I would stalk people that had this lag issue. One thing i've noticed is that, when they are pvping, they bounce around like crazy, no fluidlike motion at all. Once they've had their kill, they'll stop for a second, then they come back and start moving fluidly again. What the fuck is this shit? It's becoming rampant on my server and it's very hard to deal with these people as a caster because you'll be facing them and constantly get "you must be facing your target" errors. Are they using some sort of bandwidth limited so that they get massive packet loss? I swear they're alt tabbing and turning some shit on and off to cause this lag.. Anyone familiar with this stuff and have any possible solutions for it?

I've noticed this A LOT in duels, especially when I try to intercept other players and suddenly things slow down and instead of being in front of me, they are about 20 yards south east. But then, those people usually said the same about me, and I'm pretty sure I don't hack.

We all blamed it on server lag. We see it a lot, but I don't believe its intentional.

ex-genj · 07-12-2005, 03:20 PM

This is the "spamming screenshot key" exploit.

kudos · 07-12-2005, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ex-genj

This is the "spamming screenshot key" exploit.

Damn he must have some long ass fingers to be able to run around me and use skills while hitting the screenshot key. Too bad my fingers are too small

edit: hmm i just thought of something. If you bind it to mouse3 or something it would be pretty easy to accomplish.... Time to try it out.

Khalikryst · 07-12-2005, 04:01 PM

Sounds like another version of the speed hack to me.

Iannis · 07-12-2005, 04:11 PM

Pretty much anything that runs in the background and eats bandwith could do that, right?

Plenty of stuff available for that. Finally spyware and russian isp scams are good for something!

Artificial · 07-12-2005, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kudos

edit: hmm i just thought of something. If you bind it to mouse3 or something it would be pretty easy to accomplish.... Time to try it out.

can you bind 2 actions to one button like in EQ with sense heading and movement keys? Could be that too. (WoW not active now, can't try myself.)

Algol Devilstar · 07-12-2005, 05:24 PM

think of all the screenshots you would have to delete!

Nikkohung You · 07-12-2005, 07:30 PM

because ctrl+A --> shift+del --> click yes is so fucking hard.

Snugglegutzs · 07-12-2005, 08:32 PM

The person could also just be unpluging-repluging thire modum for a few seconds. When the server and clint update to each other it would make them warp from were the server thought they was to were the clinte said they was.

07-12-2005, 01:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Chantado Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 198 +0 Internets	Intentional PvP lag programs? I've noticed this quite a lot lately. When dueling melee characters, it seems a lot are using something that is making them lag like crazy, which makes them hard to hit via melee or spells. It's like playing CS against people that have a 900 ping time. You swear you shot them in the fucking head but nope. Then they up and kill you out of nowhere. To try to understand this problem, I would stalk people that had this lag issue. One thing i've noticed is that, when they are pvping, they bounce around like crazy, no fluidlike motion at all. Once they've had their kill, they'll stop for a second, then they come back and start moving fluidly again. What the fuck is this shit? It's becoming rampant on my server and it's very hard to deal with these people as a caster because you'll be facing them and constantly get "you must be facing your target" errors. Are they using some sort of bandwidth limited so that they get massive packet loss? I swear they're alt tabbing and turning some shit on and off to cause this lag.. Anyone familiar with this stuff and have any possible solutions for it?

07-12-2005, 01:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Itzena SOS-dan #76564674 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Near a big fucking castle, the UK Posts: 5,811 -19 Internets	Edit: Gogo misreading the post. __________________ Last edited by Itzena : 07-12-2005 at 03:29 PM.

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07-12-2005, 02:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
venom Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 179 +0 Internets	Noticed a rogue in WSG that did this yesterday. First time I've ever seen that kind of lag in WoW. Very reminiscent of FPS lag.

07-12-2005, 03:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
ex-genj Sean and I soloed Inno with Mistwalkers in 99 Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 755 -4 Internets	This is the "spamming screenshot key" exploit.

07-12-2005, 04:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Khalikryst OotS MMO plz Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,165 +0 Internets	Sounds like another version of the speed hack to me.

07-12-2005, 04:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
Iannis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Butt Hugging Moose Jockey Posts: 4,968 -1 Internets	Pretty much anything that runs in the background and eats bandwith could do that, right? Plenty of stuff available for that. Finally spyware and russian isp scams are good for something!

07-12-2005, 05:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
Algol Devilstar Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The NW Posts: 3,497 +0 Internets	think of all the screenshots you would have to delete!

07-12-2005, 08:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
Snugglegutzs Fires of Heaven Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 21 +0 Internets	The person could also just be unpluging-repluging thire modum for a few seconds. When the server and clint update to each other it would make them warp from were the server thought they was to were the clinte said they was.