Battlegrounds: Imbalance Fix - Page 2

Froofy-D · 05-12-2005, 02:36 PM

They will probably implement this as soon as Protoss show up in game.

Thhin · 05-12-2005, 02:45 PM

Tried out the Altaric BG last night. I just took "first availiable" and was pretty much instantly poped into a one..... with a huge team size imballance. With tons of alliance waiting in ques, it's just means that they will allways have 40 men in BG's while the horde not.

0hz · 05-12-2005, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Clericnon2boxed
Maybe if they introduced some uh sexier horde races, maybe bloodelves, that could help too !

I think the nerds of the world introducing themselves to real life pussy would eliminate that particular facet of the problem entirely.

Itzena · 05-12-2005, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by 0hz
Being horde...I don't really care.

I love the thought of Alliance dorks standing around pissed off. All because the population imbalance that so many have been DENYING THE VERY EXISTANCE OF for 6 months has finally been made clear to them

Seconded, thirded & fourthed.

Fuck the Alliance.
Fuck 'em in the ear.

Dyscord · 05-12-2005, 03:35 PM

Reroll horde? Sounds like a great idea to pick up our entire 60+ man MC equiped/ragnaros killing guild and start all over!

I moved to alliance because the horde on my server was going no where fast, thanks to the population imbalance. If your 60 and are caring about BG, it will take something truly drastic to make a person want to throw away all his work and start over.

Lets face it, over half of blizzard's customers are alliance, and its gonna be all those people sitting around pissed that they can't get into a BG.

Short term: Allow 'racial' transfers. Works one way. If the server is short on horde, only alliance can transfer. NE druids become Tauren, etc. Give em their gear and their cash, make sure certain quests remain done (Like upper spire lines, etc). The only sticking point is paladins becoming shaman and vice versa. But this is probably the 'easiest' way to short term fix the imbalance.

Long term: allow incentives for new people starting to start on a side thats short on people. Maybe a 5-10 percent exp bonus. Discounted training, something.

Either way, this isn't something thats just gonna go away. Horde as much as alliance should want this shit solved, as higher end PvE progression is harder for the horde thanks to lack of people. This is something that should be looked into NOW, not later.

0hz · 05-12-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by Dyscord
Reroll horde? Sounds like a great idea to pick up our entire 60+ man MC equiped/ragnaros killing guild and start all over!

I moved to alliance because the horde on my server was going no where fast, thanks to the population imbalance. If your 60 and are caring about BG, it will take something truly drastic to make a person want to throw away all his work and start over.

I'm actually amazed at how many people on my server have done this. Basically, all the best Alliance players have gradually rerolled to horde. One, who I believe was the first 60 on the server beat me to 60 on his second character. Crazy considering I was 52 when he restarted.

ChewieTobbacca · 05-12-2005, 06:46 PM

On our server TONS of Alliance are rerolling/trading characters to Horde

leane · 05-12-2005, 07:18 PM

Why not say screw it and just make if Free for all? Like allow the teams to include both horde and alliance, would get rid of any possible imbalances right off. and once they leave the battlegrounds they go back to their own side.

Would make for some awfully interesting tactics to have pallys working with shaman.... Would also eliminate any particular advantage one side might have over the other due to classes.

Mkopec1 · 05-12-2005, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by leane
Why not say screw it and just make if Free for all? Like allow the teams to include both horde and alliance, would get rid of any possible imbalances right off. and once they leave the battlegrounds they go back to their own side.

Would make for some awfully interesting tactics to have pallys working with shaman.... Would also eliminate any particular advantage one side might have over the other due to classes.

I dont know, it seems like this idea is going against what wow is at heart, Horde vs Alliance.

It would just ruin the whole hate thing they have going on.

Tuco · 05-12-2005, 07:27 PM

They need to work with the guilds on an imbalanced(most) server, and talk with them about transfering all that guild's accounts to horde. Sure, there are some technical difficulties, but they can be overcome.

At this point, besides a large number of new(good and dedicated) players starting WoW on horde side only, 1000's of dedicated players rerolling horde, or lots of alliance quitting, this is the only way to balance it.

It's a lot of work though.

The Bog · 05-12-2005, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by Tuco
They need to work with the guilds on an imbalanced(most) server, and talk with them about transfering all that guild's accounts to horde. Sure, there are some technical difficulties, but they can be overcome.

At this point, besides a large number of new(good and dedicated) players starting WoW on horde side only, 1000's of dedicated players rerolling horde, or lots of alliance quitting, this is the only way to balance it.

It's a lot of work though.

I return to my past point of Blizzard knowing that they'll keep players without making changes like this. This won't stop many people playing, thus they won't do much.

leane · 05-12-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by Mkopec1
I dont know, it seems like this idea is going against what wow is at heart, Horde vs Alliance.

It would just ruin the whole hate thing they have going on.

Actually Theres a LOT of people on my side in WOW who I would love to kill because they are annoying immature twits. The system just won't let me wack them like it should on a PvP server. The other side doesn't bug me quite as much (although the "honor" system has made it extremely annoying recently, especially when working up an alt healer for raids)

Heh · 05-12-2005, 08:52 PM

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I think the nerds of the world introducing themselves to real life pussy would eliminate that particular facet of the problem entirely.

Personally I chose alliance when I started WOW because the characters look better, and I have no shortage of RL pussy.

Berginyon · 05-12-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by Clericnon2boxed
They could make a battleground where the alliance is at a big disadvantage (how to do that maybe someoneelse can think up) so you can allow 40 alliance vs 25 horde.

An easy way (in terms of how to give lesser numbers a more even playing field) is found in how this was accomplished in the past (Past as in past battles in real life). Give Horde some sort of base they must defend. Alliance must storm the base, destroy it, take the flag from the center, who knows, whatever people felt like making as an objective. It would obviously take larger numbers to take a structure than it would be to defend it.

Now if this would be even possible given how Battlegrounds are setup, or if people would even want to play this, I am not adding any comments. My post is simply that someone with even a small imagination could come up with scenarios that would allow small numbers of horde vs larger numbers of alliance to be somewhat even.

You could have a mix of battlegrounds that are basic horde vs alliance in even numbers, and then more unique types allowing in larger amounts of alliance to stop the large queues.

Shrug

Itzena · 05-13-2005, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by Dyscord
Reroll horde? Sounds like a great idea to pick up our entire 60+ man MC equiped/ragnaros killing guild and start all over!

Hey, it's what metric fucktons of Alliance tosspots suggested when Horde people said they were getting bored of being zerged to death in TM.

To reiterate: Fuck the Alliance.

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leane Noob Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: State of Confusion Posts: 851 +0 Internets	Why not say screw it and just make if Free for all? Like allow the teams to include both horde and alliance, would get rid of any possible imbalances right off. and once they leave the battlegrounds they go back to their own side. Would make for some awfully interesting tactics to have pallys working with shaman.... Would also eliminate any particular advantage one side might have over the other due to classes. __________________ Murder! meyhem! kitties!

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05-12-2005, 02:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
Froofy-D upper management material Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,997 +8 Internets	They will probably implement this as soon as Protoss show up in game.

05-12-2005, 02:45 PM	#17 (permalink)
Thhin Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Land of the Lotus Eaters Posts: 707 +0 Internets	Tried out the Altaric BG last night. I just took "first availiable" and was pretty much instantly poped into a one..... with a huge team size imballance. With tons of alliance waiting in ques, it's just means that they will allways have 40 men in BG's while the horde not.

05-12-2005, 03:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
Dyscord Harvey Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Command Carrier Posts: 1,856 +5 Internets	Reroll horde? Sounds like a great idea to pick up our entire 60+ man MC equiped/ragnaros killing guild and start all over! I moved to alliance because the horde on my server was going no where fast, thanks to the population imbalance. If your 60 and are caring about BG, it will take something truly drastic to make a person want to throw away all his work and start over. Lets face it, over half of blizzard's customers are alliance, and its gonna be all those people sitting around pissed that they can't get into a BG. Short term: Allow 'racial' transfers. Works one way. If the server is short on horde, only alliance can transfer. NE druids become Tauren, etc. Give em their gear and their cash, make sure certain quests remain done (Like upper spire lines, etc). The only sticking point is paladins becoming shaman and vice versa. But this is probably the 'easiest' way to short term fix the imbalance. Long term: allow incentives for new people starting to start on a side thats short on people. Maybe a 5-10 percent exp bonus. Discounted training, something. Either way, this isn't something thats just gonna go away. Horde as much as alliance should want this shit solved, as higher end PvE progression is harder for the horde thanks to lack of people. This is something that should be looked into NOW, not later.

05-12-2005, 06:46 PM	#22 (permalink)
ChewieTobbacca is a maverick pirate. Yarrrrr Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,707	On our server TONS of Alliance are rerolling/trading characters to Horde

05-12-2005, 07:27 PM	#25 (permalink)
Tuco Forum Janitor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 8,272 +16 Internets	They need to work with the guilds on an imbalanced(most) server, and talk with them about transfering all that guild's accounts to horde. Sure, there are some technical difficulties, but they can be overcome. At this point, besides a large number of new(good and dedicated) players starting WoW on horde side only, 1000's of dedicated players rerolling horde, or lots of alliance quitting, this is the only way to balance it. It's a lot of work though.