Vanguard confirmed for Xbox360

[nam37]

Check it out:

http://www.vanguardsoh.com/forums/sh...threadid=13197

http://www.vanguardcompass.com/index...opicseen#msg20

[Itzena]

Still think Vanguard's aimed at the hardcore, grind-happy market, eh people?

[Braen]

Originally posted by Itzena
Still think Vanguard's aimed at the hardcore, grind-happy market, eh people?

Who said it wasn't just cause it is going to be released on the X-Box 360? Heck, I spent 6 hours straight last weekend "grinding" my players stats on FIFA Street.

The X-Box 360 has some pretty high end specs and is basically a custom computer with 3 (yes 3) 3 ghz processors and ATIs X850+ graphics card, so you can guarentee that you can run it on there and expand your potential market. No more having to have options to tone down your graphics because you can design it with a specific hardware set in mind.

X-Box 360 is totally wireless so having a keyboard/mouse setup isn't that hard to imagine.

From what I have heard FFXI is a grind fest as well and is on both PC and console. Big difference is Vanguard is being designed for the PC first and not the other way around. So you have to make the console fit the PC setup and not force the PC to play like a console.

[Jadaki]

Originally posted by Itzena
Still think Vanguard's aimed at the hardcore, grind-happy market, eh people?

Some of the most hardcore gamers I know play strictly console games. The people who play those sports games running teams through 4,576,917 seasons in a week are just as hardcore as anyone on this forum.

Why not try and get them to your game.

[nam37]

Originally posted by Jadaki
Some of the most hardcore gamers I know play strictly console games. The people who play those sports games running teams through 4,576,917 seasons in a week are just as hardcore as anyone on this forum.

Why not try and get them to your game.

If it is good, deep, hard, and I can sit on the couch that is a bonus.

[The Bog]

...oh no.

[Ravensign]

So, FFXI (for PS2 and PC) isn't a hard core grindy mmorpg then, as well.

Riiiight.

Plus the XBox360 is just a custom PC at this point, really, anyway.

Edit:

Also, its kind of funny, that the fact that it may not be hardcore is a cause for worry. Just shows you how WoW under-did the difficulty.

[The Bog]

If this affects the UI in any way, I'm going to double my post count based purely on posts about how angry I am.

[Ravensign]

Good point Bog. If they pull a FFXI and make the UI console friendly, I will use the Vanguard DVD primarily for cleaning up dog poo on walks.

[Braen]

Originally posted by The Bog
If this affects the UI in any way, I'm going to double my post count based purely on posts about how angry I am.

I don't see why it should. Like I said. This is a PC game first and a console game second unlike FFXI.

Everything should be completely the same on both sides. Maybe I should post the known stats on the X-box 360.

Also, it's not like this is a surprise. Here is a snippet from their FAQ and has been on there a long while:

1.8 What is this XNA I keep hearing about from Microsoft and how will it affect Vanguard?

XNA is a growing group of software tools that allow developers to more rapidly develop their games. Additionally, Microsoft wants to share tools and technology between its different platforms (e.g. Win32, Xbox, future platforms).

Vanguard is one of the chief early adopters of this ever-growing group of software. For example, we will be using technologies from Xbox live, voice communication, and already have the ability to play the game via an Xbox-style controller with a tiny keyboard attached to it (a TID).

There will be more information about all of this later.

[Iannis]

All games are trickling out of PCs to consoles now. I don't really foresee a new flourishing era of innovative kickass games coming to PC again either....no Baldurs Gates and Planescapes and Fallouts or Starcraft or even Doom gonna rejuvenate the sick old pc

Console is the future! THE FUTARR IS NOW! You want it crisper quality PC screen, or do you wanna be able to sit in your recliner and play on your bigscreen shall be the question posed to Vanguard players.

i don't think wow under-did difficulty. I think the expectations of difficulty got waaay over-pumped. Vanguard will have difficulty, but....I mean, some dudes on the Vanguard forum want you to have complex mechanisms for steering a simple damn boat...cmon, that's just assanine, that's not "difficulty". I prefer to sit on my ass and watch tv if I have to ride a damn Freeport to Butcherblock length boatride, not spend 30 minutes collaborating with everyone else on who rows their oar next :P I just assume that hidden in the cargo holds there's Chuck "Ben-Hur" Heston slaving away.

[Eomer]

Haven't read the links yet, but I really really hope that console and PC players do NOT play on the same servers. Please god.

[Qhue]

What if it ends up being a Xbox 360 exclusive title?

What if it isnt truly exclusive, but is released for the Xbox 360 6 months or so before the PC version?

KOTOR and Halo are compelling precedents...

[Frax]

Anyone ever use a keyboard and controller while sitting on the couch? Doesn't sound like much fun. Add to that the fact that most people do not have a high res/high def television, and the typical amount of chat scroll that MMOs have would be something you would have a very hard time following without having a huge font size. And Bog brought up the UI issue.. consoles so far have fixed UIs.. there are maybe some that let you move a window here or there, but very little cusomization. Even if you use the default UI in EQ, most people make a lot of changes in the layout just to make it display information in the way they prefer.

Just from some of the discussions on the vanguard boards in the past couple of years, I would never make the connection that Vanguard will be Xbox 360 only.

edit: Vanguard will have integrated voice chat IIRC, so maybe not a huge issue as far as the keyboard for small groups. Has there been a leaked keyboard screenshot for the new Xbox?

[Surlok TP]

Originally posted by Iannis
[b]All games are trickling out of PCs to consoles now. I don't really foresee a new flourishing era of innovative kickass games coming to PC again either....no Baldurs Gates and Planescapes and Fallouts or Starcraft or even Doom gonna rejuvenate the sick old pc



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I don't understand why consoles require the processing power they do to run,while usually always shipping with inferior graphics processors.

The ATI card is a good card right now,but for some perspective...

I run an AMD64 3500+ with a Geforce 6800 Ultra,couple gigs of ram,10krpm HD. Basically you know a hardcore gaming platform,not the best there is by any means but still a quality PC.I run the new 3dMark05 benchmark somewhere in the mid 6k Range for a score.This is the pretty common range right now for high end "average" PC's.

The difference in say 1k points in that benchmark in terms of gameplay is rather extreme,so when you take into account that people running rigs with Dual Ultras in PCI-Express are getting scores of 9K+ you can clearly see how PC graphics are about to jump up by leaps and bounds over the next year as PCI-E becomes more and more mainstream and affordable.Where as I am getting an average of 25-30 FPS in the game demos in that particular Benchmark,the Dual Ultras are getting in the 60+ range; enough bascially to cap rates to most people monitors.The graphics and effects displayed in these demos areofcourse incredible,but nothing can run them currently with any kind of decent performance,at least not anyhting average which is what PC developers have to target.


That X-Box is going to come out already outdated and out performeda TON by PC's

If they are developing Vangaurd with PC in mind first then there should be no issue,a UI and control scheme compatible with the new X-Box 360 shouldn't be a problem.Also note that the new Hardware seems to be full wireless and will likely allow for Mouse and Keyboard's designed for PC's anyway.

My only concern is knowing what's on the horizon in terms of graphics in regards to PC ,that the Devs of Vangaurd don't hold back on future graphical enhancements simply because the X-box version won't be able to handle it.

Console is the future! THE FUTARR IS NOW! You want it crisper quality PC screen, or do you wanna be able to sit in your recliner and play on your bigscreen shall be the question posed to Vanguard players.

I don't think Consoles have increased in popularity asmuch as people think they have.

I look at it like this,in the first half of the 90's I was a guy in High school and while I lovedvideogames and so did many of my friends,they were expensive and none of usreally bought them.they came as gifts and games to.Of course not every parent could justify that purchase and thus many were not bought.

Fast forward ten years alter and all us kids that loved games and such but couldn't buy them,have jobs now and are buying all the things we liked that we couldnt' afford.I have a PS/2 that I haven't played a game on in more than 2 years.It's in my living room and my 3 year old uses it as a dvd player because he can work it easier than a real one with a remote.I bought it though cause I had the money and I wanted one.


Consoles rose in popularit so much cause the people that always loved them started to gofrom being kids to consumers.Alot us in the same bracket didn't really comeup with PC's being a viable means of gaming,they weresimply to expsenive.Again nowwe havethe money and realize that they are bigger and better and PC's to have become more and more popular.Out of all my buddies that I went o High school with that I still keep in touch with I was the only one that was really into PC's for years.They have all owned all the consoels as they have come out but shyed away from PC's.Over the last couple of years however every single one of them now owns one and the majority now use them over consoles for gaming related past times.

PC's are becoming like another one of those guy things were its bigger and better and mine does this can yours? etc etc...

They are no where near the dying game platform not by any means.Consoles have come along way but one genre they have yet to hold a candle to in temrs of PC VS console is FPS and thats still the most popular gaming application on PC's today.