An idea to help rogues at the High end

[valarin]

rogues are fine.. . The problem is like so many people in WoW.. most have no idea what the fuck thier doing. 1 rogue=2 mages in dps EASY. Granted the mage range means less healing but in alot of situations it is damn well worth it to toss in a few rogues. The problem is so many rogues suck badly.


If you think a rogue being able to convert combo points into healing is a good balanced idea ... pls send me some of whatever shit your smoking.

[Thorbadin]

Btw, I looked a bit for it but could not find that mod to do raid damage, care to link it here? Is it an interactive thing or you have to run it on a log afterward? And how reliable is it? Meaning at what kind of range do you stop seeing raid info from others and missing on their dps?

Thanks,

Thorbadin
www.starsonata.com

[Flinch]

The one I use is called Damage Meters, available from Curse.

It also tracks healing amounts, so you can see what Priests are slacking et al.

It's a neat little tool, and you can run a box on your screen that'll keep a tally of the total amount of dmg, what % of the total amount of damage it consists of, how many crits, and time since last action.

No link available cos I'm @ work and it doesn't like the curse site for some reason.

[Murr]

MC is pretty much ez mode now - the only mob rogues can't really do much to has to be Shazzrah, and you probably could with the right strat.

[masteen]

FUCK ROGUES.

[Asmadai]

Ok I know I don't play WoW, but the idiocy of this thread couldn't be ignored.

Lemme get this straight...Rogues are being called the highest dps class in WoW right? If i'm wrong just stop reading here.

Ok, so you are the highest dps class in the game, and since you feel you have to revert to other forms of damage during some encouters, (ie, ranged dmg, which from what i'm reading is 2nd best in the game next to Hunters) you feel that you need either A. A way to heal yourself, or B. A way to do MORE DAMAGE?

I think we are really overlooking the obviousness of the situation here.

The highest dps class in the game, wants instead of having to do the 2nd best dps in the game range-wise, an ability to heal themselves, or abilities to do more dps...

Yes I know I typed that twice. The sheer stupidity of it stunned me.

[Mudcrush Durtfeet]

I play a rogue. I do not believe rogues need more healing capabilities, or additional damage (ranged or melee), at least not right now.

[Gamblor]

Originally posted by Asmadai
The highest dps class in the game, wants instead of having to do the 2nd best dps in the game range-wise, an ability to heal themselves, or abilities to do more dps...

Yes I know I typed that twice. The sheer stupidity of it stunned me. [/b]

No, the highest dps class in the game wants to be able to fucking do their goddamn job all the time. There are fights in which a rogue is worthless. No fights in MC completely marginalized other DPS classes. Any guild which is short on healers (pretty much all horde guilds) is saying "rogues, you're only here to fill a spot, bring bandages cause you're a waste of healer mana". If I wanted to be a fucking mana sponge I'd have rerolled a ranger in kunark.

When shaman are getting within 75k of my fucking damage for the night thanks to worthless dagger itemization, why the fuck bring a rogue at all? Shaman bring a hell of a lot more than just dps to the table.

Gutgore needs to be more than a 2% drop or blizzard needs to just remove all dagger talents and say "sorry, the retards on the forums are terrified of big number ambushes and we cater to them. Respec to a goddamn stunlock swordfaggot because you're never going to get a better dagger than the barman fucking shanker"

Note to any devs reading this: Tranquilizing stab or being trapbitch are NOT ways to increase my utility.

[Sean]

Well, since some MC mobs were gimped, Rogues can do their job full time on basically everything but Shazz. Happy?

[Torrid]

Originally posted by Asmadai
The highest dps class in the game, wants instead of having to do the 2nd best dps in the game range-wise, an ability to heal themselves, or abilities to do more dps...

Rogues don't do anywhere NEAR the 2nd best ranged damage in the game. The sheer stupidity of YOUR post stuns ME.

A rogue, singular, posted he wanted healing abilities. The VAST majority of rogues would think it would be retarded just like everyone else.

[FoghornDeadhorn]

Tranquilizing stab

bahahahaha

[Iannis]

Originally posted by FoghornDeadhorn
bahahahaha

it sounds vaguely erotic.








by that i mean i chloroform all my dates.

[Asmadai]

Originally posted by Torrid
Rogues don't do anywhere NEAR the 2nd best ranged damage in the game. The sheer stupidity of YOUR post stuns ME.

Hey I don't play WoW, I was just quoting...wait...yourself?!?

Originally posted by Torrid First off, rogues don't "sit out" for those fights. They used ranged attacks. Rogue gun/bow damage is the 2nd best among non-hunters.

Maybe I misread it a tad, but not by much. But hell, I don't play that game anyway.

[DelheruRN]

Originally posted by Gamblor
No, the highest dps class in the game wants to be able to fucking do their goddamn job all the time.

I don't think shazzrah is THAT harsh. It's just a single mob after all. Unless you fucking suck, you did your job fine on everything except him.

There are fights in which a rogue is worthless.

1 fight yes.

Any guild which is short on healers (pretty much all horde guilds) is saying "rogues, you're only here to fill a spot, bring bandages cause you're a waste of healer mana".

We tend to have like 10-14 healers (I'd say 13 is a good median) and I call bullshit on your babble. Our rogues fucking own shit with our healer amounts without causing any real risk to the MT.

Of course the hurried damage matters very little until you meet Ragnaros. I hear a lot of guilds get him to like 70% before sons of flame come out... we are getting him to 50% with ease. And yeah we are in good condition to handle the sons too, so not like our few healers are oom after healing rogues.

When shaman are getting within 75k of my fucking damage for the night thanks to worthless dagger itemization, why the fuck bring a rogue at all?

Thanks to a shitty rogue would have been my theory.

If you can't find a good dagger, change your fucking talents.

[FoghornDeadhorn]

10-14 healers, is that including Shamans? If not that's a hell of a lot more than a lot of guilds can bring regularly.