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Old 04-17-2005, 11:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone else feel like this about MC?

That all the encounters are all too alike? Shazzarh, Golemagg, Sulfrion, Magamadar, Gehnnas etc. It's all also, Ok tank goes in and everyone else range. I mean coulden't they of thought of something else besides this?
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Old 04-17-2005, 12:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm guessing you play a ranged character?

As a warrior all of the fights are enjoyable and exciting for me except the Shazzrah fight. But if the rumors are true and he gets blink next patch... it should be much more interesting.
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Old 04-17-2005, 12:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Anyone else feel like this about MC?

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That all the encounters are all too alike? Shazzarh, Golemagg, Sulfrion, Magamadar, Gehnnas etc. It's all also, Ok tank goes in and everyone else range. I mean coulden't they of thought of something else besides this?
Magmadar is a very original and overall a fun fight in my opnion, the current requirement of doing lucifron multiple times is kinda gay though. Lucifron has interesting curses, Gehannas is just slightly harder lucifron fight (Just not impressed with it). I don't have much experience with the other bosses to comment really.

I would rather of seen more onyxia type fights, that have mulitple stages than another deadly curse/aoe damage mob. Onyxia is essentially 3 fights, and you get rewarded nicely for winning. Doing a 3 stage encounter and getting 3x the rewards is better than doing a flat boring battle for 1/3rd the reward.

Oh and if you look at molten core in general, tanking in every single 5 group instance is about 2x harder than tanking in molten. It's just so boring because it's just one mob and unlimited rage (atleast from a warriors perspective).

Hopefully Tigole has some better shit in store for Deathwing's Lair
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Old 04-17-2005, 01:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I play a mage so I preety much sit there and spam 1.
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Old 04-17-2005, 01:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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As a mage, only Lucifron Gehannas Geddon and Majordomo require me to pay attention to the fight. Curses for Luci and Gehennas, Geddon for the bomb (<3 killing 5 ppl at once) and sheeping for Domo.

However patch change should make Shazzrah (blinking Shazzrah uh oh) more interesting as well as Golemagg (porting to furnace will make this fight even lamer on healer mana.)

Personally though as Horde the biggest problem is healer numbers and mana...
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Old 04-17-2005, 01:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Oh and if you look at molten core in general, tanking in every single 5 group instance is about 2x harder than tanking in molten. It's just so boring because it's just one mob and unlimited rage (atleast from a warriors perspective).
God yes. After nothing but raid instances for a few weeks I went to UBRS for a blood run, and rage was in poor supply.

Taunt, one sunder, oops, mage pulled it off you and you have no rage, bloodrage, taunt, sunder again, oops, lost aggro, no rage, bloodrage is cooling down. Switch to battle, mocking blow, oops it misses / is parried / dodged, you're SOL while it's hitting the caster / rogue until taunt recycles again, when you HOPE you have enough rage to finally get a lockdown on the mob. If you don't crest that initial point of locking down a mob to supply you with rage to keep aggro up, it's pretty rough sometimes.

In MC or Onyxia you get to hit all your skills as soon as they refresh, though, even MS... so much rage.
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Old 04-17-2005, 01:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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After all taht MC we went to BRD for 5 man for twinks and boy was it fun when a 8 mob pull turned into a 32 mob pull... and we lived..

Far funner than facing one mob at a time

From what Tigole said of Blackwing Lair though, its strucutred as a set of rooms that you progress (exactly unlike MC and Onyxia) so maybe they have some great encoutners in there.. Ring War anyone?
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Old 04-17-2005, 03:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yea, has there been much info about blackwing's lair? I hope it's slightly larger then Onyxia's lair, meaning there is at least a couple mini bosses. Not as much as MC though, somewhere in between. 2-3 miniboss encounters, with loot, before getting to Blackwing possibly.
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Old 04-17-2005, 03:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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When is the southern part of silithus gonna be implemented ? There is easily room for 20 big encounters.
(there is a way through the eastern mountains to make it into the area)

Sorry for the further derail.
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Old 04-17-2005, 05:32 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Ahn'Qulai or whatever it is called in Southern Silithus is supposed to be gigantic... my guildmate went into the caves and its larger than MC

Blackwing is supposed to be hardcore, really hardcore - I dont know about its size but I'd say its far longer than just a few mini bosses and then Blackwing. Instead, its sets of rooms each with their encounter and boss and eventually after differnet sets you reach Blackwing himself.

From what I know from lists and info of compiled zones coming out in the future:

Blackwing Lair (in UBRS - raid zone)
Alterac Valley (battleground in Alterac Mtns.)

Those two are for sure coming out soon

Others in development:
-Caverns of Time (Tanaris)
-Uldum (Tanaris)
-Hyjal (by Winterspring - you can go in there now if you want at your own risk)
-Emerald Dream (??)
-Necropolis Naxxramas (in Stratholme, where Kel'Thuzad lives)
-Azshara Crater (battleground in Azshara)
-Karazhan (Medivh's Tower in Deadwind Pass)
-Outlands (through Dark Portal in Blasted Lands? It is known that the zone files are already out in our folders and that people have used zone viewers to see it, makes sense too since Illidan is supposedly the toughest mob in game right now but he's hiding there)
-Zul'Gurub (another troll instance, in STV, the unfinished area)
-Ahn'Quiraj (Southern Silithus area)
-Grim Batol (Wetlands)

Theres also an exact copy of Onyxia's entrance in Hyjal which might mean another instance in Hyjal itself or a dragon lair or what not

Dark Portal opened via Medivh's Spellbook supposedly and Kel Thuzad has it!

These are other zones we know are being worked on or were thought of and maybe or may not be implemented (certainly could be expansion content):
-Maelstrom (underwater city of Naga as well as Tomb of Sargeras)
-Gilneas (human city-state south of Silverpine, walled off)
-Kul Tiras (not on map but should be)
-Quel'Thalas (in plaguelands theres a path north blocked off by logs with an elf NPC named Adon.. Add-on heh)
-Old Ironforge (there was once a tunnel down that was sealed by Magni and other places in Ironforge supposedly as well)


Now honestly I don't know how many are scrapped, may be added as expansions, or what not

Of course the zone designs may be out and done well (Hyjal is all laid out nicely, just no mobs or items) - but experience may change zones. All the whining over Azuregos and Kazzak griefing may change their mind on outdoor competitive raid targets (which Southern Silithus certainly is) - as well as cries for 20-25 man instance raid zones (theres rumors that Karazhan was suppsoed to be a 5 man instance in the TOFS style of EQ but may now be converted to 20-25 man content).
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Old 04-17-2005, 06:04 PM   #11 (permalink)
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As a warrior all of the fights are enjoyable and exciting for me except the Shazzrah fight. But if the rumors are true and he gets blink next patch... it should be much more interesting.
The rumors are indeed true.
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Old 04-17-2005, 06:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I challenge you to a race, Tigole.

Get three of those zones in before I arrive in America. You have four and a half months.

If you win, I will personally post an apology here. If you lose, I win an argument over the internet. That's quite enough for me.
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Old 04-17-2005, 06:35 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I kind of am inclined to agree, but as far as Gehennas goes you sort of have to be on your toes, especially with the AEs, or you'll die fast.

As a Warlock, though, it does seem I tend to chaincast Shadow Bolt a lot, since a lot of things are fire immune in the Core (and rightly so, but still!). I really wish I could dispel curses, but then again I don't want to get yelled at during Kazzak/Gehennas as to why the curse isn't dispelled
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Old 04-17-2005, 06:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Wow. Blackwing lair suddenly sounds like Plane of Time.

I wonder if blackwing has 3 heads. Oh wait.
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Old 04-17-2005, 06:51 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Wow. Blackwing lair suddenly sounds like Plane of Time.

I wonder if blackwing has 3 heads. Oh wait.
Supposedly after you kill Nefarius one of the dragon aspects shows up and reverses Time so it never happened..
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