Next WoW patch live date pool

[FooBar]

Hahaha, no you fucktard it's a question not a statement.

[Asmadai]

Originally posted by DisgruntledOrangatang
Haha what a dumbass. After what is it? 5 months now some retard is already tooting the "No one carez about WoW nemore, dont post patch notes kplzthx" shit this forum did with EQ when WoW was in open beta or some shit.

Too bad his "dumbass" quote will actually hold water within a year.

Go, Blizzard Fanboi's, GO!

[Cybsled]

Given that an expansion pack will be out by then, I somehow doubt it. WoW still holds my interest...especially with the patch upcoming with the honor system.

As for next year's options, Vanguard won't interest me if it's a boring shit xp grind like EQ used to be. A fun combat system, etc still does not save a game from tedious xp grinds that last forever. If the grind is -reasonable- and the death penalty is -reasonable- (read: no kick to the nuts massive xp loss...and fuck debt, debt is the same fucking thing except you dont delevel from dying), then maybe that will be interesting come next year.

[Metranon]

Hahaha, no you fucktard it's a question not a statement.

that makes you look even more retarted, considering with half a brain everyone knows WoW is arguably the biggest commercial success in the video game industry in maybe the last 5 years.

[Iannis]

Like the vanguard faq ponders and WoW proves, a death without penalty is a "so the fuck what?" death.

I dunno what they'll pull out of the hat to make death more interesting. I like debt specifically because of the no de-level shit. I remember the nights after early raids, when EQ was still hard, and having to re-ding and shit. That was a kick in the balls indeed...then the GODLY cleric epic was attained, and by god life was all golden turkeys and bedets after taking a really nasty sticky shit.

Maybe give you a Fable-esque combat modifier. The longer it's been since you died, the more bonus XP you get. Kill only greens, level like you're fighting purples omgsoleetyes!

[Mkopec1]

Originally posted by Metranon
that makes you look even more retarted, considering with half a brain everyone knows WoW is arguably the biggest commercial success in the video game industry in maybe the last 5 years.

LOl, maybe in PC games.

1.5 mill worldwide is shit sales as console games are concerned.

Look at Halo2 alone.....

"Halo 2's opening-day sales. The Seattle Post-Intelligencer is reporting that Microsoft now claims to have sold 2.38 million units of the game in the US and Canada. If confirmed, that would mean the company's one-day take would exceed $125 million--exceeding even the highest-grossing opening weekend for a holiday film. "

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/11...s_6112915.html

[keflex]

Originally posted by Mkopec1
LOl, maybe in PC games.

1.5 mill worldwide is shit sales as console games are concerned.

Yes, because as we all know, the discussion was about how big WoW was compared to games like Halo 2 and GTA: San Andreas.

You fucking moron, does shit ever NOT spew out of your mouth?

[Iannis]

Fable was overhyped.

Just a random comment. Why did you HYPERage? My guy was 55 damn years old by the time I hammered Jack of Blades (who was a pretty pussy villain for being the god of all evil heroes, or whatever, too.)

maximum strength + maximum multistrike + The Harbingers for the goddamn win.

[Mkopec1]

Originally posted by keflex
Yes, because as we all know, the discussion was about how big WoW was compared to games like Halo 2 and GTA: San Andreas.

You fucking moron, does shit ever NOT spew out of your mouth?

No think the shit was spewing out of his mouth, bitch.

"WoW is arguably the biggest commercial success in the video game industry in maybe the last 5 years. "

WTF are you guys for real?

[The Bog]

Originally posted by Iannis
Fable was overhyped.

Just a random comment. Why did you HYPERage? My guy was 55 damn years old by the time I hammered Jack of Blades (who was a pretty pussy villain for being the god of all evil heroes, or whatever, too.)

maximum strength + maximum multistrike + The Harbingers for the goddamn win.

All I did was go berserker and hit him repeatedly.

Then I realised that I had absolutely no experience in arrows.

So I reloaded and hammered the experience into that.

Jack of Blades could have been really, really intimidating, if it wasn't for the fact that him taking the sword basically made him do NOTHING. Kefka in FF6 turned into a god and you fought in the very heavens themselves. Jack of Blades? He floats a bit and throws ice at you. Wonderful.

Then you get your mural at the end and the voiceover saying "AND THEN THEY ALL LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER/TOOK OVER THE WORLD THE END."

Also, you don't get to continue playing unless you sit through the fucking credits.

I loved Fable, but god did the ending piss me off.

[Itzena]

Originally posted by Mkopec1
WTF are you guys for real?

Halo2 isn't pulling in $15/player a month, though.

[Metranon]

you'll notice i said it was "arguably" the biggest success in the video game market

HALO 2 selling 2.38 million copies is a great success for a video game, i'm not disputing that.

But as others have pointed out, you don't pay 15/month subscription fees to play HALO 2 or GTA: San Andreas.

Lets assume the average WoW customer plays for 6 months after he buys the retail box: that customer has now paid blizzard $50 (for the box) and also paid another $90 over that 6 month period in subscription fees. This means that person has now paid $140 in subscription fees, more than twice the cost of buying HALO 2 or GTA: San Andreas.

Thus, before considering overhead costs such as server maintenance etc, after only 6 months of playtime the WoW fanbase of 1.5 million has more potential earning power than HAL 2's 2.38 million.Now of course you can argue that box sales are more profitable than subscription fees because they are all at once, don't require maintenance, etc etc.

But i think at this point in WoW's commercial career, it's a huge success. While theres no gold medal hanging around Mike Morhaime's neck as "Video game Heavyweight champion of the world", it's safe to say that it is in the same league as HALO 2, GTA etc for gross revenue, after some time has passed and subscription fees have accrued.

Look at it from a perspective of how much EQ earned off subscription fees. When i played EQ, my account was actively subscribed for the better part of 5 years. If i play WoW for the same amount of time, in 5 years after release i will have paid them $900 US dollars in fees. I don't know how many first person shooter fans have bought $900 worth of software out of the box from a single company over the course of 5 years, but i'm guessing that number is, well, almost nonexistant.

While you might not like WoW for aesthetic reasons, to try and deny that WoW has achieved a level of commercial success that NO other MMORPG has achieved, is foolish.

[Mkopec1]

Originally posted by Metranon
WoW has achieved a level of commercial success that NO other MMORPG has achieved.

Thanks for fiing that.

[Iannis]

I just reread my earlier post and don't know why the fuck I mentioned fable. I think it was a random thought from the "biggest commercial success" thing. Sometimes the biggest successes are only so from being so hyped up

For some reason I don't think WoW is going to have people running 5 year subscriptions. Granted, it'll last for 5 years and more as long as the main attraction of the BGs aren't utterly retarded in implementation. But the same account for 5 devoutly paid every month...mmm, doubt it. No MMO will have EverQuest's godly retention rate, not even Vanguard; the playing field just isn't the same anymore.

Blizzard is probably making out like bandits right now, though, moneywise. No argument.

[The Bog]

I dunno. I see a lot of retards there happily waving credit cards. Don't underestimate them.