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Vekruul Shuth · 04-15-2005, 06:03 AM

Im on crack Braen.

The Bog · 04-15-2005, 06:05 AM

Face it, FY. This forum was used as a place to develop heavy fanboyism amongst EQ players; definitely not the only place, but one of the main ones. Stuff like the raidbug was symptomatic of the fact that Blizzard pretty much stopped catering to the higher end/heavier players because they knew they weren't their predominant playerbase. Stuff like the endgame being over quickly (as in, they lied about all that shit being "tested internally," as it neither existed nor was tested), the levelling being so quick, that's what I'm talking about.

Yes, yes, taunt me about black helicopters. To me it all seems to me like the Beta was a huge theatrical PR event, and we were all the goddamn actors. Me especially, and I regret that deeply.

Keed · 04-15-2005, 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by Metranon
this forum has a lot of history, i don't know if my life would be the same if i can't read the rickshaw hall of fame from time to time

I whole-heartedly agree with this statement, the old school trolls know why.

(hint: Bertox+Unleashed)

FuckYou · 04-15-2005, 06:16 AM

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Originally posted by The Bog
Face it, FY. This forum was used as a place to develop heavy fanboyism amongst EQ players; definitely not the only place, but one of the main ones. Stuff like the raidbug was symptomatic of the fact that Blizzard pretty much stopped catering to the higher end/heavier players because they knew they weren't their predominant playerbase. Stuff like the endgame being over quickly (as in, they lied about all that shit being "tested internally," as it neither existed nor was tested), the levelling being so quick, that's what I'm talking about.

Yes, yes, taunt me about black helicopters. To me it all seems to me like the Beta was a huge theatrical PR event, and we were all the goddamn actors. Me especially, and I regret that deeply.

so is it your contention that since blizzard does not cater to the high end game, those of us who enjoy it or enjoy discussing it should stop conversing here?

i come to this board because it is largely made up of smart players who want more from their MMO. thats what this forum represents to me.

Vekruul Shuth · 04-15-2005, 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by The Bog
Face it, FY. This forum was used as a place to develop heavy fanboyism amongst EQ players; definitely not the only place, but one of the main ones. Stuff like the raidbug was symptomatic of the fact that Blizzard pretty much stopped catering to the higher end/heavier players because they knew they weren't their predominant playerbase. Stuff like the endgame being over quickly (as in, they lied about all that shit being "tested internally," as it neither existed nor was tested), the levelling being so quick, that's what I'm talking about.

Yes, yes, taunt me about black helicopters. To me it all seems to me like the Beta was a huge theatrical PR event, and we were all the goddamn actors. Me especially, and I regret that deeply.

If they can roll out content lets say every month...The likes of DM/Kazz/Az etc.. and soon to be Blackwing's lair...I can forgive them.

But if need to wait every 3 months for a content patch...I'll cut my losses and follow Moses...Errrr Brad to the promised land.

Totally different direction...

Are the rumors true that they will remove tier 2 from MC next patch...And it will only be available via Blackwing and Onyxia?BUT Blackwing will NOT be in next patch?

Fammaden · 04-15-2005, 06:27 AM

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Originally posted by FuckYou
As much as this pains me to say it, if it's a bandwidth cost issue... dump the screenshots forum.

Glad to have the forums back.

I agree. You really don't need TPGT to find pictures of naked chicks on the internet. And it has nothing to do with the intent of this board in the first place. If the amount of traffic has grown past the ability of the site owners to afford it, that seems like the best place to start making cuts.

The Bog · 04-15-2005, 06:28 AM

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so is it your contention that since blizzard does not cater to the high end game, those of us who enjoy it or enjoy discussing it should stop conversing here?

I'm not saying that. I'm just thinking out loud and wondering whether much constructive conversation will happen with this much stalling in content in regards to WoW.

Repetition and that. Less to talk about. If nothing's ever done and nothing said here is ever noticed, it all becomes a little futile.

I want people to keep talking here, it's a good thing, and some excellent points get raised.

The problem is, is that I don't believe Blizzard listen in any degree; yes, Sony may have been awful, but they have arguably been worse. The huge patches, the downtime, the instability (after so long). Bah, I'm babbling. The simplification is "People should talk here and that's a great, positive thing, but I'm sad because i don't believe it'll make a lick of difference judging by how it's been currently."

Prove me wrong and I'll be tickled pink - really - no part of me wants people to have a shit time playing their games, and I'm not some sort of nihilist crazy trying to end people's fun. I hope that I'm proved wrong and there's a sudden change and everybody cheers and wets themselves with joy. I really do.

Fammaden · 04-15-2005, 06:32 AM

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Originally posted by Vekruul Shuth
If they can roll out content lets say every month...The likes of DM/Kazz/Az etc.. and soon to be Blackwing's lair...I can forgive them.

But if need to wait every 3 months for a content patch...I'll cut my losses and follow Moses...Errrr Brad to the promised land.

Totally different direction...

Are the rumors true that they will remove tier 2 from MC next patch...And it will only be available via Blackwing and Onyxia?BUT Blackwing will NOT be in next patch?

Well, it appears that this patch is going to come about a month after the last one. If that is the sort of update schedule they plan to implement, then I have no complaints really. I think people are overall pretty happy with Dire Maul, although it is a bit too easy for the rewards and far to easy to skip content and farm loot bosses, but hey this is WoW we are talking about. I'm not surprised that a new high level single group dungeon went in that direction.

After a very rocky launch, I can forgive them for not patching as soon as we would have liked, but if they keep up this pace then we still have a lot to look forward to. I don't mind having a night or two a week when I am bored enough to watch TV or go to sleep early myself. Overall I still find plenty to keep me subscribed to the game.

Thread derail FTW!

Vekruul Shuth · 04-15-2005, 06:45 AM

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I'm not saying that. I'm just thinking out loud and wondering whether much constructive conversation will happen with this much stalling in content in regards to WoW.

Short answer...Need compelling high end content for decent high end conversation.So I'd answer no.

There always is the progression issues that can crop up every now and then in a thread.

The re-design of zones IMO is my biggest concearn..and the out of whack itemezation..(Hello Dragon Zerg).The silly zone design (Hello DM boss farms) etc etc etc.But not much convo even there when shit is just fucked up..and people here can't even argue that point for the most part.

Lets rename this thread and call it a day.

Kaxmax · 04-15-2005, 07:25 AM

Back to the original topic, I'd gladly donate some cash for bandwidth. This place can't be cheap to keep going, and I've gotten a lot of info/enjoyment out of it throughout the past few years.

Eomer · 04-15-2005, 08:01 AM

I'd chip in as well, for the reasons others have stated.

As far as Bog's questioning goes, I think you're on the wrong track. This forum is a good concentration of knowledgable MMOG players that have been at it for the better part of a decade now, in some cases. There's a lot of knowledge and creativity in this community, and to lose it would be a shame. Maybe there's other forums out there that have intelligent discussions of MMOG mechanics that are better than here, but the idiots help add to the flavor.

And I think developers themselves recognize this. Only a very select few actually post here (Aradune being the biggy), but I'm sure dozens of others occasionally try to troll through the garbage for that occasional nugget of goodness.

The important thing, IMO, is the boards running reliably and having a bit more active moderation. Swearing and flaming is one thing, but there's a lot of dumbassed posters around that should have been booted years ago. This shit isn't a right, it's a privilege.

And personally I wouldn't be that upset of the Screenshots forum was nuked, or better yet, attachments were disabled in it. I've always wondered why they even allowed large attachments in the first place, and when the PGT first started I tried to get people to host the pics themselves instead of attaching, but now it's basically several thousand pics being hosted by fohguild.org, and that must suck down a ton of bandwidth. Nuke it, if bandwidth is an issue. There's free porn everywhere on the net, anyway.

Szlia · 04-15-2005, 08:04 AM

a valid question and still no blue post!!

Braen · 04-15-2005, 08:04 AM

We could always go somewhere else and make a PGT thread....

Now... Where could we go....

FuckYou · 04-15-2005, 08:09 AM

dont look at me. im not taking on that kind of bandwidth! ho ho

Braen · 04-15-2005, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by FuckYou
dont look at me. im not taking on that kind of bandwidth! ho ho

Come on! It fits your sig pic!

www.prettygirlthread.org

04-15-2005, 06:05 AM	#32 (permalink)
The Bog The troll who sold the world Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: State College, PA Posts: 2,699 +0 Internets	Face it, FY. This forum was used as a place to develop heavy fanboyism amongst EQ players; definitely not the only place, but one of the main ones. Stuff like the raidbug was symptomatic of the fact that Blizzard pretty much stopped catering to the higher end/heavier players because they knew they weren't their predominant playerbase. Stuff like the endgame being over quickly (as in, they lied about all that shit being "tested internally," as it neither existed nor was tested), the levelling being so quick, that's what I'm talking about. Yes, yes, taunt me about black helicopters. To me it all seems to me like the Beta was a huge theatrical PR event, and we were all the goddamn actors. Me especially, and I regret that deeply. __________________ Bogfather - Blood Elf Rogue, Aerie Peak

04-15-2005, 08:04 AM	#42 (permalink)
Szlia Conquest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 4,447 +4 Internets	a valid question and still no blue post!! __________________ -retrosabotage-

04-15-2005, 08:04 AM	#43 (permalink)
Braen Mistwalkers Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 3,631 -7 Internets	We could always go somewhere else and make a PGT thread.... Now... Where could we go.... __________________ Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn - In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming "That is not dead which can Eternal lie, and with strange Eons even death may die" - H. P. Lovecraft Last edited by Braen : 04-15-2005 at 08:07 AM.

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04-15-2005, 06:03 AM	#31 (permalink)
Vekruul Shuth Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 601 -1 Internets	Im on crack Braen.

04-15-2005, 07:25 AM	#40 (permalink)
Kaxmax Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,949 -1 Internets	Back to the original topic, I'd gladly donate some cash for bandwidth. This place can't be cheap to keep going, and I've gotten a lot of info/enjoyment out of it throughout the past few years.

04-15-2005, 08:01 AM	#41 (permalink)
Eomer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,076 +20 Internets	I'd chip in as well, for the reasons others have stated. As far as Bog's questioning goes, I think you're on the wrong track. This forum is a good concentration of knowledgable MMOG players that have been at it for the better part of a decade now, in some cases. There's a lot of knowledge and creativity in this community, and to lose it would be a shame. Maybe there's other forums out there that have intelligent discussions of MMOG mechanics that are better than here, but the idiots help add to the flavor. And I think developers themselves recognize this. Only a very select few actually post here (Aradune being the biggy), but I'm sure dozens of others occasionally try to troll through the garbage for that occasional nugget of goodness. The important thing, IMO, is the boards running reliably and having a bit more active moderation. Swearing and flaming is one thing, but there's a lot of dumbassed posters around that should have been booted years ago. This shit isn't a right, it's a privilege. And personally I wouldn't be that upset of the Screenshots forum was nuked, or better yet, attachments were disabled in it. I've always wondered why they even allowed large attachments in the first place, and when the PGT first started I tried to get people to host the pics themselves instead of attaching, but now it's basically several thousand pics being hosted by fohguild.org, and that must suck down a ton of bandwidth. Nuke it, if bandwidth is an issue. There's free porn everywhere on the net, anyway.