Identity Theft on a whole new level.

Faille · 03-13-2005, 08:15 PM

http://eq2.fohguild.org/forums/viewt...er=asc&start=0

http://forums.tritonguild.net/index.php?showtopic=1628

We've all had characters that steal other characters name and one of the first things people do when starting a new mmo seems to be making up chars to reserve the names they want. It seems that the only thing of any great value that you can get in these games these days is the reputation associated with the name, something that is built up over long periouds of time.

For a guild's name it is even more so. The reputations that some of the big guilds have built up, such as a Triton, have taken years to get to and countless man hours from they members. For some people with a very tenuous link to the original Triton to use that as an excuse to in effect steal the name is rather mind blowing.

Do guild names, and their associated reputations, have any rights to keep those names forever or can just anyone take the name they want if they get to it first. This is a particuarly interesting situation in that Sony runs both eq1 and eq2 and as such are in some position to do something about it if they chose to though obviously I don't think they would.

I'm curious what other people think about the situation.

Samus Aran · 03-13-2005, 08:34 PM

There is nothing Triton can do since their name is taken from the greek mythological god of the sea. or in the case of some fool using the title of a Robert Jordan book for a guild name.

Drizzi · 03-13-2005, 08:34 PM

they should change their name imo.
i would be ashamed if i was a member of triton in eq2 without original Triton supporting it.

Duppin · 03-13-2005, 08:41 PM

I saw some Triton tags in EQ2 but didn't have any idea it wasn't the "real" Triton.

From the story in the thread on the FoH eq2 board, though, it looks like one of the founders of the eq2 "guild" was a late fill-in recruit to the EQ1 Triton? Certainly not a "founding" member in any case.

And using a guild name to try to take advantage of cred you didn't earn, is pretty sad.

Jait · 03-13-2005, 09:44 PM

Considering all the blowjobs someone must get from calling themselves "Triton" or "Fires of Heaven" in a video game, this must be stopped immediately. Night Elves are being exploited people.

God forbid, someday someone might take a name that's actually under copyright by some author and take away his livelihood. Not to mention all those BJs.

In short, less whining, more kills, who gives a fuck what your name is.

Mazuli · 03-13-2005, 09:49 PM

Could the font on those triton forums be any fucking smaller?

Soygen · 03-13-2005, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mazuli
Could the font on those triton forums be any fucking smaller?

Hah, I thought the same thing. CTRL + mousewheel. /nod

Mazuli · 03-13-2005, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soygen
Hah, I thought the same thing. CTRL + mousewheel. /nod

I never knew there was a shortcut to change the font size. Thanks.

Ameraves Loyalheart · 03-13-2005, 11:09 PM

Its pretty shitty to take a name to give yourself credit you dont deserve. However to gank the logo from the original Triton is just fucking sad.

Ham n Cheese · 03-14-2005, 12:43 AM

ignore this post!

It was originally about how it's entirely possible that they never heard of Triton, but clicking on the links proves otherwise.

Soriak · 03-14-2005, 01:39 AM

Copying the logo is a big no-no, they could definatly get them to change it.

Name is fair game though, unless a guild (generally speaking, not Triton) went through the trouble to get some product with their guild name made, offer it for sale, and trademark the guild name. That's quite a bit of work, and not free either, so I don't see many people doing it... especially not if your guild name is "borrowed" from somewhere

Thorbadin · 03-14-2005, 01:55 AM

Each time I see one of those ATM machine with the "Triton" tag on it, kinda make me dream of better times.

Heh.

Thorbadin

The Bog · 03-14-2005, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soygen
Hah, I thought the same thing. CTRL + mousewheel. /nod

Curse this vile laptop mousepad! No wheel! BLARG!

My favourite part:

Quote:

Can you say owned!!!

Owend.
Oowned.
Ouwned.

Shit!

Dynalisia · 03-14-2005, 05:48 AM

Reading the "news" on that EQ2 Triton site will leave me with scars.

FuckYou · 03-14-2005, 06:05 AM

whats in a name?

they can call themselves triton if they want, but everyone knows they are losers for doing so and are likely to have any miniscule accomplishments they manage to pull off degraded by their idiotic hijacking of an existing guilds name.

in a similar vein, the real triton could rename themselves Cock Rockers and still be regarded as successful due to their accomplishments.

the short of the long: its gay to use someone elses name, even tho there is no official doctrine saying you cant. in cases of accidental overlapping of names, sure, mistakes happen. in this case however i find it hard to believe that no one knew about the real Triton ©.

03-13-2005, 08:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Faille Fires of Heaven Officer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 2,654 +12 Internets	Identity Theft on a whole new level. http://eq2.fohguild.org/forums/viewt...er=asc&start=0 http://forums.tritonguild.net/index.php?showtopic=1628 We've all had characters that steal other characters name and one of the first things people do when starting a new mmo seems to be making up chars to reserve the names they want. It seems that the only thing of any great value that you can get in these games these days is the reputation associated with the name, something that is built up over long periouds of time. For a guild's name it is even more so. The reputations that some of the big guilds have built up, such as a Triton, have taken years to get to and countless man hours from they members. For some people with a very tenuous link to the original Triton to use that as an excuse to in effect steal the name is rather mind blowing. Do guild names, and their associated reputations, have any rights to keep those names forever or can just anyone take the name they want if they get to it first. This is a particuarly interesting situation in that Sony runs both eq1 and eq2 and as such are in some position to do something about it if they chose to though obviously I don't think they would. I'm curious what other people think about the situation.

03-14-2005, 12:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ham n Cheese You can betray me Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 8,660 +20 Internets	ignore this post! It was originally about how it's entirely possible that they never heard of Triton, but clicking on the links proves otherwise. __________________ Xeph Caito Cao'Li Hunky Dory

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03-13-2005, 08:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Samus Aran Sons of the Storm Heal Bitch Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 771 +1 Internets	There is nothing Triton can do since their name is taken from the greek mythological god of the sea. or in the case of some fool using the title of a Robert Jordan book for a guild name.

03-13-2005, 08:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Drizzi Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 251 +0 Internets	they should change their name imo. i would be ashamed if i was a member of triton in eq2 without original Triton supporting it.

03-13-2005, 08:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
Duppin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 4,306 -18 Internets	I saw some Triton tags in EQ2 but didn't have any idea it wasn't the "real" Triton. From the story in the thread on the FoH eq2 board, though, it looks like one of the founders of the eq2 "guild" was a late fill-in recruit to the EQ1 Triton? Certainly not a "founding" member in any case. And using a guild name to try to take advantage of cred you didn't earn, is pretty sad.

03-13-2005, 09:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jait Irritable Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: :noitacoL Posts: 3,479	Considering all the blowjobs someone must get from calling themselves "Triton" or "Fires of Heaven" in a video game, this must be stopped immediately. Night Elves are being exploited people. God forbid, someday someone might take a name that's actually under copyright by some author and take away his livelihood. Not to mention all those BJs. In short, less whining, more kills, who gives a fuck what your name is.

03-13-2005, 09:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Mazuli Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 644 +0 Internets	Could the font on those triton forums be any fucking smaller?

03-13-2005, 11:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ameraves Loyalheart Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 944 +1 Internets	Its pretty shitty to take a name to give yourself credit you dont deserve. However to gank the logo from the original Triton is just fucking sad.

03-14-2005, 01:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
Soriak Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 4,697 +29 Internets	Copying the logo is a big no-no, they could definatly get them to change it. Name is fair game though, unless a guild (generally speaking, not Triton) went through the trouble to get some product with their guild name made, offer it for sale, and trademark the guild name. That's quite a bit of work, and not free either, so I don't see many people doing it... especially not if your guild name is "borrowed" from somewhere

03-14-2005, 01:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
Thorbadin Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 453 -1 Internets	Each time I see one of those ATM machine with the "Triton" tag on it, kinda make me dream of better times. Heh. Thorbadin

03-14-2005, 05:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
Dynalisia Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The land of sunshine Posts: 1,480 -4 Internets	Reading the "news" on that EQ2 Triton site will leave me with scars.