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Old 03-10-2005, 08:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up So how does your class stack up in PvP?

http://www.gankcentral.com/ClassCompare.aspx

There you go!
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Looking at the chart it seems like fighting a Shaman is a loosing proposition, no matter what class it is.

Of course some skill is involved, but look at those numbers.

Glad I have a shammy
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I thought paladin would have a better score than that..

But druid seems to be a sucky class !
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Divine shield doesnt make you a PVP god. The fucking morons on bnet believe that harder to kill = can kill back quickly. I fear paladins the least unless they have support. As a support class, they own pretty hard.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah, I thought Priests kicked ass too. /shrug

I guess the nerf whines should be centered twords the Shaman.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Those numbers are wrong vs. warrior too for a good priest vs. a warrior.

Intercept (i r fast) + Hamstring (u no run) + Mortal Strike (ouch) + Berserker Rage (no fear kekekeke) + Execute (u ded =() = byebye priest
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I call bullshit.

Where did this information come from?

Did each fight happen in a fair way? This is from "Gank Central", so I doubt it's 1 on 1 perfectly fair fight.

Level 60 vs Level 60?

What about gear? If a level 60 in shitty non purple is fighting another level 60 in purple, there could be a signifigant advantage.

Were they buffed before the fight? Did they use potions?

What if someone ran, does that count as a win?
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:33 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I call bullshit.

Where did this information come from?

Did each fight happen in a fair way? This is from "Gank Central", so I doubt it's 1 on 1 perfectly fair fight.

Level 60 vs Level 60?

What about gear? If a level 60 in shitty non purple is fighting another level 60 in purple, there could be a signifigant advantage.

Were they buffed before the fight? Did they use potions?

What if someone ran, does that count as a win?
There is no fair PvP.

Its all about getting the jump, hitting the person at his most vulnerable time. PvP in WoW does not mean fair fights. Its highly unprobable that these numbers are derived from 1 vs 1 fair duels.

If you look at how the data is derived, its simply records your wins and losses and to which class and uploads the data to their server.

But, a site like that, given enough numbers, a pattern can be clearly established. Because out of lets say 1000 fights, fair or not, a shaman beats a Warrior 60% of the time. Chances are that the Shaman which fights a Warrior has a 60% chance of winning based on all levels of gameplay.
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If all that data was taken from 60 versus 60 exclusiveley in flagged duels, I doubt Shaman would be as dominating on the percentiles.

Shaman are excellent at the get-a-way also. Especially a Tauren with the 1 second Ghost Wolf talent.
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Well it's definately accurate in part, that i can vouch for. Shamans are complete bastards in pvp.

I sometimes can't believe they made shamans and rogues the way they are. It makes me think they are some Devs pet class that wanted nice gank power.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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If all that data was taken from 60 versus 60 exclusiveley in flagged duels, I doubt Shaman would be as dominating on the percentiles.

Shaman are excellent at the get-a-way also. Especially a Tauren with the 1 second Ghost Wolf talent.
But if you get aaway that means that no one dies, therefore it cannot be counted as a loss or win, right?

Someone needs to die in order to be recorded.

They are using a SavedVariables.lua file to record their data, so this means that this file somehow records this information.
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I call bullshit.

Where did this information come from?

Did each fight happen in a fair way? This is from "Gank Central", so I doubt it's 1 on 1 perfectly fair fight.

Level 60 vs Level 60?

What about gear? If a level 60 in shitty non purple is fighting another level 60 in purple, there could be a signifigant advantage.

Were they buffed before the fight? Did they use potions?

What if someone ran, does that count as a win?
Considering PvP is NOT duels, this information is more or less valid. In a pvp server you do not have the luxury of always being lvl60 having the best gear and knowing ahead of time of a fight.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:46 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Its only as acurate as how many PvP fights they are counting. Obviously the more numbers uploaded to their server means more acurate results.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:56 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: ...

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Those numbers are wrong vs. warrior too for a good priest vs. a warrior.

Intercept (i r fast) + Hamstring (u no run) + Mortal Strike (ouch) + Berserker Rage (no fear kekekeke) + Execute (u ded =() = byebye priest
A good priest will annihilate almost everyone, including warriors.

PvP is not 1 v 1, though, so I'm sure groups with all classes have killed priests...

As a warrior, I'm not a God on the battlefield by any means, but I do deliver a lot of killshots (go go execute)
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reminds me of another complaint, we NEED a 'Soandso Killed You', "You Killed Soandso' messages.

My damage window is too fast in pvp action to keep up w/ who's doing damage. If I could move the kill message, not 'soandso died', to a diff window, I'd screen shot every kill and host on a website
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