WoW LV60 , March 1st.

Mkopec1 · 03-02-2005, 01:37 PM

Here are the level 60 figures seperated by faction:

Horde (25269 characters)

1. Rogue (4864, 19%)
2. Shaman (4662, 18%)
3. Warrior (4271, 17%)
4. Mage (3081, 12%)
5. Hunter (2909, 12%)
6. Priest (2411, 10%)
7. Warlock (2043, 8%)
8. Druid (1028, 4%)

Alliance (37508 characters)

1. Paladin (8346, 22%)
2. Rogue (7494, 20%)
3. Hunter (5835, 16%)
4. Mage (4575, 12%)
5. Warrior (4020, 11%)
6. Priest (3165, 8%)
7. Warlock (2046, 5%)
8. Druid (2027, 5%)

Notice that the Alliance Pallies almost outnumber the hordes Hunter, Warlock, Priest and Druid combined!

Last month there was about 27K Lv60's this month that figure is now 63K and growing....

Cybsled · 03-02-2005, 01:45 PM

I'm glad warlocks are near the bottom. That means we get more buff lovings down the line, until we become so powerful people cry "OMG NERF!!".

It's no wonder alot of ex-monks play Warlocks ;O

Malakriss · 03-02-2005, 01:45 PM

Why would anyone play a druid?

Brodda Thep · 03-02-2005, 01:52 PM

Notice that the Horde Rogues almost outnumber the Alliance's Druid, Warlock, Priest and Warrior combined!

Burning_Samurai · 03-02-2005, 01:56 PM

Stop making fucking rogues! Mine!

Keltan · 03-02-2005, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brodda Thep
Notice that the Horde Rogues almost outnumber the Alliance's Druid, Warlock, Priest and Warrior combined!

Maybe in your world.

Last time I checked: 2027 + 2046 + 3165 + 4020 = 11258

That's a "bit higher" than the 4864 Horde Rogues...

*edit* I can't add either...

Dyvim · 03-02-2005, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brodda Thep
Notice that the Horde Rogues almost outnumber the Alliance's Druid, Warlock, Priest and Warrior combined!

Uh, learn how to add.

Keystone · 03-02-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by Malakriss
Why would anyone play a druid?

Perhaps because they are overpowered as fuck, if you know how to use one?!

Chaid · 03-02-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by Mkopec1
Last month there was about 27K Lv60's this month that figure is now 63K and growing....

Assuming one level-60 per account, 10% of the US customer base is at the level cap.

Maybe when it hits 30% Blizzard management can finally justify business reasons for spending resources on improving their buggy/incomplete level 60 content.

Chantado · 03-02-2005, 02:43 PM

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Perhaps because they are overpowered as fuck, if you know how to use one?!

They're great in pvp and solo / small group..but they're so watered down on raids - a problem that is evident with many classses. They often just become backup healers in places like MC (at least on the tougher mobs there) - much like other classes that lose a lot of what makes them unique from the rest in these high end zones. Want to use your druid debuffs/nukes/roots? Too bad. Warlock wants to use his awesome dots? Woops, they got kicked off the mob, or only one warlock can keep his on. Shaman? Drop the necessary totems and have fun being a backup healer.

Warlocks and shamans dont have it too bad - warlock's sustained nuke DPS is pretty good, and banish rocks; shaman's totems kick ass..but druids just buff and heal most of the time.. Perhaps the raids I go on don't have enough priests - we take about 3-4 to MC. How many are these other guilds taking?

Cybsled · 03-02-2005, 03:40 PM

The 10 debuff limit on mobs hurts warlocks the most. Unless you are a destruction build, you're basically just a 2nd rate mage who can cast soul stone and banish extra surgers...assuming the shitty LOS in MC doesnt fuck you over.

It's like they took the "mob in the wall" archery immunity bug from EQ and magnified it 1000x.

Erathlyn · 03-02-2005, 03:48 PM

restoration druid heals a fair amount better than a priest, the 50%+ crit rate with our fast heal, combat rez, innervate (it's like having a 9.5k+ mana pool every 6 minutes), and nature's swiftness are really nice. Not to mention omen of clarity in places where melee is safe. Many people are under the fallacy from other games that priest = best healer, but ignoring rez, competent druids have a clear advantage.

Brodda Thep · 03-02-2005, 04:21 PM

/sigh

I believe it is more indicative to go by percentages. Thus the statement of horde rogues vs the bottom four classes. Of course his statement said the bottom four when paladins actually only cover the bottom three for horde. While horde rogues more than cover the bottom three of alliance.

Percentages are certainly more interesting than pure numbers.

Trust me, the OMG-paladins-are-so-overpowered craze that is going on will be replaced by a paladins-are-fucking-useless-in-raids craze in the not too distant future. To use them as tanks they need to be geared as tanks, which makes them useless as healers, but not as good as a warrior. To use them as healers they need to be geared as healers, which makes them useless as a tank, but not as good as a priest/druid.

Of course we all get pushed into one set of armor in the end which makes us watered down tanks and healers neither of which can effectively be used at the same time.

Then again, paladins are pretty damn nice in groups. Blessing of protection actually becomes useful (can't use on raid members), stun becomes useful. Blessing of sacrifice is useful. Blessing of sanctuary is useful. Seal/judgement of judgement is somewhat useful.

On raids the only thing we got going for us is blessing of wisdom and blessing of kings. Dispell is too situational to be meaningful. The rest is crap. Though once raid debuff slots are increased judgement of wisdom and light will be quite useful. And don't give me that agroless heal bs. If your healers are getting agro then you have something else going wrong entirely.

Kalahad · 03-02-2005, 06:21 PM

Druids are far from watered down on raids. Four druids can keep a priest healing rotation going pretty much indefinately with innervate every 6 minutes. Also when battle rez is upgraded that will be invaluable as well, rez timers make it kinda pointless at times at the moment. Just a shame not many people play them.

Sandiriaa · 03-02-2005, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chantado
..but druids just buff and heal most of the time.. Perhaps the raids I go on don't have enough priests - we take about 3-4 to MC.

The scenary may change, but the raid dynamics never do.

03-02-2005, 01:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mkopec1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 5,093	WoW LV60 , March 1st. Here are the level 60 figures seperated by faction: Horde (25269 characters) 1. Rogue (4864, 19%) 2. Shaman (4662, 18%) 3. Warrior (4271, 17%) 4. Mage (3081, 12%) 5. Hunter (2909, 12%) 6. Priest (2411, 10%) 7. Warlock (2043, 8%) 8. Druid (1028, 4%) Alliance (37508 characters) 1. Paladin (8346, 22%) 2. Rogue (7494, 20%) 3. Hunter (5835, 16%) 4. Mage (4575, 12%) 5. Warrior (4020, 11%) 6. Priest (3165, 8%) 7. Warlock (2046, 5%) 8. Druid (2027, 5%) Notice that the Alliance Pallies almost outnumber the hordes Hunter, Warlock, Priest and Druid combined! Last month there was about 27K Lv60's this month that figure is now 63K and growing.... __________________ When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I only think about how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong.

03-02-2005, 01:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,215 +14 Internets	I'm glad warlocks are near the bottom. That means we get more buff lovings down the line, until we become so powerful people cry "OMG NERF!!". It's no wonder alot of ex-monks play Warlocks ;O __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

03-02-2005, 01:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Burning_Samurai Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 408 +0 Internets	Stop making fucking rogues! Mine! __________________

03-02-2005, 03:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,215 +14 Internets	The 10 debuff limit on mobs hurts warlocks the most. Unless you are a destruction build, you're basically just a 2nd rate mage who can cast soul stone and banish extra surgers...assuming the shitty LOS in MC doesnt fuck you over. It's like they took the "mob in the wall" archery immunity bug from EQ and magnified it 1000x. __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

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03-02-2005, 01:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Malakriss Your lack of intelligence is an insult to humanity. Get a fucking clue Join Date: May 2002 Location: Obviousville Posts: 2,644	Why would anyone play a druid?

03-02-2005, 01:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
Brodda Thep Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 370 -1 Internets	Notice that the Horde Rogues almost outnumber the Alliance's Druid, Warlock, Priest and Warrior combined!

03-02-2005, 03:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
Erathlyn Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 103 +0 Internets	restoration druid heals a fair amount better than a priest, the 50%+ crit rate with our fast heal, combat rez, innervate (it's like having a 9.5k+ mana pool every 6 minutes), and nature's swiftness are really nice. Not to mention omen of clarity in places where melee is safe. Many people are under the fallacy from other games that priest = best healer, but ignoring rez, competent druids have a clear advantage.

03-02-2005, 04:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
Brodda Thep Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 370 -1 Internets	/sigh I believe it is more indicative to go by percentages. Thus the statement of horde rogues vs the bottom four classes. Of course his statement said the bottom four when paladins actually only cover the bottom three for horde. While horde rogues more than cover the bottom three of alliance. Percentages are certainly more interesting than pure numbers. Trust me, the OMG-paladins-are-so-overpowered craze that is going on will be replaced by a paladins-are-fucking-useless-in-raids craze in the not too distant future. To use them as tanks they need to be geared as tanks, which makes them useless as healers, but not as good as a warrior. To use them as healers they need to be geared as healers, which makes them useless as a tank, but not as good as a priest/druid. Of course we all get pushed into one set of armor in the end which makes us watered down tanks and healers neither of which can effectively be used at the same time. Then again, paladins are pretty damn nice in groups. Blessing of protection actually becomes useful (can't use on raid members), stun becomes useful. Blessing of sacrifice is useful. Blessing of sanctuary is useful. Seal/judgement of judgement is somewhat useful. On raids the only thing we got going for us is blessing of wisdom and blessing of kings. Dispell is too situational to be meaningful. The rest is crap. Though once raid debuff slots are increased judgement of wisdom and light will be quite useful. And don't give me that agroless heal bs. If your healers are getting agro then you have something else going wrong entirely.

03-02-2005, 06:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
Kalahad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 178 -2 Internets	Druids are far from watered down on raids. Four druids can keep a priest healing rotation going pretty much indefinately with innervate every 6 minutes. Also when battle rez is upgraded that will be invaluable as well, rez timers make it kinda pointless at times at the moment. Just a shame not many people play them.