Initial end-game content - EQ vs WoW - Page 2

Goofy · 02-20-2005, 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by xlurkerx
I think the main problem with putting large raid areas not instanced is the pvp aspect. Nothing like getting your dragon down to 10% only to have a group of 5-10 horde take down all your healers while everyone is busy beating on the dragon.

I think that would be pretty damn fun.

Lenaldo · 02-20-2005, 08:00 AM

Imagine having a group to kill the dragon and then a PVP group to protect the raid incase shit hits the fan. Hell, you could even have guilds that act as guardians. Pay a price for their protection during your raid. I think that would bring a littel bit of spark to a dull pvp system.

Mkopec1 · 02-20-2005, 08:23 AM

Sweet! Were back to 70+ man raid groups! 40 for the raid and another 30 to protect them!

I guess we need to get back to 150+ man guilds where your all such a tight knit family.

Not only that, you just cut your loot margin by 1/2.

kudos · 02-20-2005, 08:24 AM

I remember when people would ask if you'd play EQ if it was just your guild on the server; 90% or so said they wouldnt because they enjoyed racing other guilds and the community would suck. WoW is evidence enough that the community would suck.

And I'm using instances as an example of being the only one on server, since you basically ARE alone while in the instance. You didnt have to race anybody.

Dolalin · 02-20-2005, 08:29 AM

Racing was only fun when you won.

I'd like to see a form of inter-guild competition that doesn't involve a simple who-is-there-first.

Maybe a PvP fight or something before the encounter.

kudos · 02-20-2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by Dolalin
Racing was only fun when you won.

I'd like to see a form of inter-guild competition that doesn't involve a simple who-is-there-first.

Maybe a PvP fight or something before the encounter.

Racing also slowed down end game progression. Because only one guild would be doing it on a server. The others would bottom feed on whatever was left.

Mkopec1 · 02-20-2005, 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by kudos
Racing also slowed down end game progression. Because only one guild would be doing it on a server. The others would bottom feed on whatever was left.

Thats retarded. Lets get back to the fucking eletist dick wavers who kept all the end game content to themselves.

You people are really stupid sometimes.

The community is borked in WoW not because of instancing, its because THE GAME IS A FUCKING SOLO GAME 1-60!

Uber Uberest ~Rathe · 02-20-2005, 08:46 AM

I have to disagree. Instances are crippling any kind of community in game. Theres no beef, no drama, nothing. Beef and drama add to the entertainment of the game greatly. The best drama weve had so far is a suspension. Pretty fuckin gay.

kudos · 02-20-2005, 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by Mkopec1
Thats retarded. Lets get back to the fucking eletist dick wavers who kept all the end game content to themselves.

So you want retards who only devote 3 nights a week(or whenever instances reset) to accomplish the same as those who can devote more. I see. I'm sorry if I do not agree with the fact people who dont play as much should get the same reward.

Mkopec1 · 02-20-2005, 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by Uber Uberest ~Rathe
I have to disagree. Instances are crippling any kind of community in game. Theres no beef, no drama, nothing. Beef and drama add to the entertainment of the game greatly. The best drama weve had so far is a suspension. Pretty fuckin gay.

The drama in this game is fucking PvP. Its when you go to do you 54th run at UBRS and get stood up by the opposing faction.

Sorry for your luck you choose a PvE server, where you can all hold each others dicks wile /dancing.

Mkopec1 · 02-20-2005, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by kudos
So you want retards who only devote 3 nights a week(or whenever instances reset) to accomplish the same as those who can devote more. I see. I'm sorry if I do not agree with the fact people who dont play as much should get the same reward.

Well if you dont see by now that this game does not cater to the 50+ hour a week peeps I think you need to slap yourself on the forehead. Sorry, this is not EQ 2.0. Its pretty fucking evident that Blizzard tried EVERYTHING not to become the agonizing life drain that EQ became.

kudos · 02-20-2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by Mkopec1
Well if you dont see by now that this game does not cater to the 50+ hour a week peeps I think you need to slap yourself on the forehead. Sorry, this is not EQ 2.0. Its pretty fucking evident that Blizzard tried EVERYTHING not to become the agonizing life drain that EQ became.

I agree. And now look at the end product. A game that the "community" around it is getting fed up with.

The Bog · 02-20-2005, 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by Mkopec1
The drama in this game is fucking PvP. Its when you go to do you 54th run at UBRS and get stood up by the opposing faction.

Sorry for your luck you choose a PvE server, where you can all hold each others dicks wile /dancing.

Woah woah woah.
You just a minute ago criticised elitist dickwavers.
You then said the classic PVP line about PVE players being pussies.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's a tad hypocritical.

Mkopec1 · 02-20-2005, 09:09 AM

If you want conflict in WoW you need to go to a PVP server.

Its as simple as that.

kudos · 02-20-2005, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by Mkopec1
If you want conflict in WoW you need to go to a PVP server.

Its as simple as that.

I was on a pvp server and the only conflict I saw was the same raid on southshore every night. woohoo that doesnt get old. Sorry if I dont make a thread and bitch about how I got ganked on the battle.net forums like the majority of the idiots.

02-20-2005, 08:00 AM	#17 (permalink)
Lenaldo Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 711 -5 Internets	.... Imagine having a group to kill the dragon and then a PVP group to protect the raid incase shit hits the fan. Hell, you could even have guilds that act as guardians. Pay a price for their protection during your raid. I think that would bring a littel bit of spark to a dull pvp system.

02-20-2005, 08:23 AM	#18 (permalink)
Mkopec1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 5,009	Sweet! Were back to 70+ man raid groups! 40 for the raid and another 30 to protect them! I guess we need to get back to 150+ man guilds where your all such a tight knit family. Not only that, you just cut your loot margin by 1/2. __________________ When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I only think about how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong.

02-20-2005, 08:24 AM	#19 (permalink)
kudos Y HELO THAR!!1 Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,474 -8 Internets	I remember when people would ask if you'd play EQ if it was just your guild on the server; 90% or so said they wouldnt because they enjoyed racing other guilds and the community would suck. WoW is evidence enough that the community would suck. And I'm using instances as an example of being the only one on server, since you basically ARE alone while in the instance. You didnt have to race anybody. __________________ Pissing off Everquest players since 1999-2008 Last edited by kudos : 02-20-2005 at 08:28 AM.

02-20-2005, 09:09 AM	#29 (permalink)
Mkopec1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 5,009	If you want conflict in WoW you need to go to a PVP server. Its as simple as that. __________________ When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I only think about how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong.

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02-20-2005, 08:29 AM	#20 (permalink)
Dolalin Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 53 -1 Internets	Racing was only fun when you won. I'd like to see a form of inter-guild competition that doesn't involve a simple who-is-there-first. Maybe a PvP fight or something before the encounter.

02-20-2005, 08:46 AM	#23 (permalink)
Uber Uberest ~Rathe Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 1,710 +0 Internets	I have to disagree. Instances are crippling any kind of community in game. Theres no beef, no drama, nothing. Beef and drama add to the entertainment of the game greatly. The best drama weve had so far is a suspension. Pretty fuckin gay.