Battlegounds: Disappointed you chose a PVP server?

0hz · 01-14-2005, 09:52 AM

Are you upset that you chose to play on a PVP server now that what's coming with BG has been fleshed out a bit more? I've heard numerous people on my (PVP) server say that they only played PVP due to the expectation that BG would be little more than an arena.

???

Bizanich · 01-14-2005, 10:03 AM

No, I can kill people virtually anywhere, which is why I chose a PvP server. Battlegrounds doesn't negate this at all.

That and Battlegrounds might be more largescale fights, which are fun and awesome in their own right....but I also like coming up to Blackrock mountain in a group of 5, seeing a group of 5 Alliance, and going at it in a 5 on 5.

That won't happen s'much in Battlegrounds.

Tuco · 01-14-2005, 10:14 AM

Battlegrounds sounds fun, but what about when it's not feasible to get a battlegrounds event going?

I can go PVP with my rogue buddy and we can tear shit up. I personally like standing outside a city like Grom'Gol and waiting for them to oppose me!

PVE servers are Warcraft Lite.

Mkopec1 · 01-14-2005, 10:20 AM

Yeah, the PvP servers add that extra uncertainty and excitement which the PvE servers lack.

As Biz before me said, you will never have the 1vs1, 2vs1 3vs3 or any of the other combinations of small scale conflicts as you do on a PvP server.

Ill tell you the truth, I was never for PvP, but in this game it just seems like the whole core of the game all relates to PvP conflicts.

On a PvE server you just enter a contested zone, go seek out your quest targets and all in a predictable fashion preceed to complete the quest with absolutely no regard for what the other side is doing, where they are at and what they are planning.

The PvP servers add another dmension ontop of the easy and predictable PvE action.

xlurkerx · 01-14-2005, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Bizanich
but I also like coming up to Blackrock mountain in a group of 5, seeing a group of 5 Alliance, and going at it in a 5 on 5.

Or when your raid is heading to spire and you meet another raid. That's fun

Clericnon2boxed · 01-14-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by xlurkerx
Or when your raid is heading to spire and you meet another raid. That's fun

I wonder how the progression curve of PVP vs PVE servers will look like in WoW.

Larconzor · 01-14-2005, 11:04 AM

I don't regret it at all at this point. Having random conflicts running around keeps it a bit more fun for me.

And as someone above said, running into another group of alliance on the way to BRS or BRD etc and duking it out is always a blast.

Burning_Samurai · 01-14-2005, 11:07 AM

Any word as to when we will see battlegrounds other then "In the next year"?

Tripamang · 01-14-2005, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by Larconzor
I don't regret it at all at this point. Having random conflicts running around keeps it a bit more fun for me.

And as someone above said, running into another group of alliance on the way to BRS or BRD etc and duking it out is always a blast.

This is always a blast, last night we had about 10 people on the way to BRS to do upper and there was a raid of about 30 alliance sitting outside waiting for people.. we totally obliterated all 30. Probably one of the most fun PvP battles I've had in a long time.

frott · 01-14-2005, 12:54 PM

Heh, was on the way with a full guild raid to BRD (lotta lowbies) and we approached another guild, sorta sized each other up but then we saw some elite off in the distance.... god, it was a mess. I just recall mind controlling people squatting at the mob and running them away repeatedly.

xlurkerx · 01-14-2005, 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by frott
Heh, was on the way with a full guild raid to BRD (lotta lowbies) and we approached another guild, sorta sized each other up but then we saw some elite off in the distance.... god, it was a mess. I just recall mind controlling people squatting at the mob and running them away repeatedly.

Try fighting on the ring around the lava. Mind control = into lava you go!

3D_BotS · 01-14-2005, 02:28 PM

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Are you upset that you chose to play on a PVP server now that what's coming with BG has been fleshed out a bit more?

Rofl not at all, I can kill horde virtually whenever I want. I don't have to wait for them to put there pvp flag up like you do, I don't have to go to an instanced zone just to have a all out pvp battle with people like you do, it's not like we won't have the battle grounds and only pve will, pvp will have it and more. PvP > PvE.
Yes lets play a game based on war between two sides so we can be happy happy together. Give me a break.

Cybsled · 01-14-2005, 02:33 PM

Heh some newbs on the boards are crying about that pvp strat.

"Omg I cant counter teh lavaz!!!"

Bizanich · 01-14-2005, 02:35 PM

You know, I was thinking (thread derailment inc)....

One of the reasons some warriors might see their lives as so crappy compared to other warriors who just see it as hard might be due to PvE vs PvP servers.

Before someone goes into /outrage mode, I don't mean player skill levels at all. I was referring to the fact that Warriors on PvE servers can't easily get the jump on people and typically won't be able to use their charge to gain rage on people (or catch them by surprise, period). This leads to the warrior being at an automatic disadvantage.

I, on the other hand, don't have that problem, and can catch people by surprise and/or get the initial charge off instead of waiting for their flag to drop.

I can cause people to panic simply by coming out of nowhere, whereas say Fulorian (to use a FoH Warrior on a PvE server) has the annoyance of having to wait.

I don't envy that position at all

.

But, anyways, bring on Battlegrounds!

Neferata · 01-14-2005, 02:37 PM

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PvP > PvE.

Why is there always some ignorant dipshit that brings this up in every other thread?

"OMG P3ANUT M&MS > CHOCOLAET M&MS B/C TH3Y HAEV P3ANUTS IN TH3M"

01-14-2005, 09:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
0hz Bigger, better, blacker. Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 364 +0 Internets	Battlegounds: Disappointed you chose a PVP server? Are you upset that you chose to play on a PVP server now that what's coming with BG has been fleshed out a bit more? I've heard numerous people on my (PVP) server say that they only played PVP due to the expectation that BG would be little more than an arena. ???

01-14-2005, 10:20 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mkopec1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 5,009	Yeah, the PvP servers add that extra uncertainty and excitement which the PvE servers lack. As Biz before me said, you will never have the 1vs1, 2vs1 3vs3 or any of the other combinations of small scale conflicts as you do on a PvP server. Ill tell you the truth, I was never for PvP, but in this game it just seems like the whole core of the game all relates to PvP conflicts. On a PvE server you just enter a contested zone, go seek out your quest targets and all in a predictable fashion preceed to complete the quest with absolutely no regard for what the other side is doing, where they are at and what they are planning. The PvP servers add another dmension ontop of the easy and predictable PvE action. __________________ When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I only think about how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong.

01-14-2005, 11:07 AM	#8 (permalink)
Burning_Samurai Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 371 +1 Internets	Any word as to when we will see battlegrounds other then "In the next year"? __________________ "I'm just watching a bad dream I never wake up from." -Spike, CowBoy Bebop

01-14-2005, 02:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,008	Heh some newbs on the boards are crying about that pvp strat. "Omg I cant counter teh lavaz!!!" __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

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01-14-2005, 10:03 AM	#2 (permalink)
Bizanich Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,481 +2 Internets	No, I can kill people virtually anywhere, which is why I chose a PvP server. Battlegrounds doesn't negate this at all. That and Battlegrounds might be more largescale fights, which are fun and awesome in their own right....but I also like coming up to Blackrock mountain in a group of 5, seeing a group of 5 Alliance, and going at it in a 5 on 5. That won't happen s'much in Battlegrounds.

01-14-2005, 10:14 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tuco Forum Janitor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 8,080 +14 Internets	Battlegrounds sounds fun, but what about when it's not feasible to get a battlegrounds event going? I can go PVP with my rogue buddy and we can tear shit up. I personally like standing outside a city like Grom'Gol and waiting for them to oppose me! PVE servers are Warcraft Lite.

01-14-2005, 11:04 AM	#7 (permalink)
Larconzor Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 44 -1 Internets	I don't regret it at all at this point. Having random conflicts running around keeps it a bit more fun for me. And as someone above said, running into another group of alliance on the way to BRS or BRD etc and duking it out is always a blast.

01-14-2005, 12:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
frott Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,390 +0 Internets	Heh, was on the way with a full guild raid to BRD (lotta lowbies) and we approached another guild, sorta sized each other up but then we saw some elite off in the distance.... god, it was a mess. I just recall mind controlling people squatting at the mob and running them away repeatedly.

01-14-2005, 02:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
Bizanich Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 2,481 +2 Internets	You know, I was thinking (thread derailment inc).... One of the reasons some warriors might see their lives as so crappy compared to other warriors who just see it as hard might be due to PvE vs PvP servers. Before someone goes into /outrage mode, I don't mean player skill levels at all. I was referring to the fact that Warriors on PvE servers can't easily get the jump on people and typically won't be able to use their charge to gain rage on people (or catch them by surprise, period). This leads to the warrior being at an automatic disadvantage. I, on the other hand, don't have that problem, and can catch people by surprise and/or get the initial charge off instead of waiting for their flag to drop. I can cause people to panic simply by coming out of nowhere, whereas say Fulorian (to use a FoH Warrior on a PvE server) has the annoyance of having to wait. I don't envy that position at all . But, anyways, bring on Battlegrounds!