Anyone getting bored yet?

[Duppin]

Time to ask an unpopular question, but here goes.

Anyone else getting bored with WoW?

Maybe it's just being jaded, maybe it's that I'm not really in the right mindset for these sorts of games anymore. I donno.

But I'm finding it harder and harder to get motivated to log in to WoW.

I think there might be a few reasons for this.

1) The incentives to level aren't very good. Sure, there's increases in hp/mana/less resist rate on spells, but it doesn't feel like my character changes significantly with each level. I get an upgrade to one of my heals maybe, or a better Mind Blast, but it's not really any 'different' than the last rank I had. I don't think there's enough skills/spells in WoW at this point, there's nothing really /new/ once you pass 30 or so.

2) This kinda ties into my first point, but there's very little joy in getting gear upgrades. I think this is because gear is just replaced so rapidly in WoW; the longest I've ever kept any item was my staff from WC that I kept for about 10 levels. Everything else I replaced at least twice in that amount of time. Theres no real attachment to your existing gear, so there's very little excitement when you get a new BP or hat or whatever. It doesn't really compare to, say, getting your first piece of Ravenscale.


3) The game is so heavily slanted towards soloing until you get up to the very top, that there's very limited interaction with other people. Every class can solo, basically and most of them can solo well, and with the gimpy group XP model, you're usually penalizing yourself if you group for anything other than elite quests/instances. I end up BSing with people in chat channels or in tells but it's pretty superficial and there's not a lot of community. Don't get me wrong, I love being able to solo, but I think they went too far in making it /preferable/ to solo rather than just possible.

I know that these are somewhat problematic with all MMORPGs, but it seems like they all come together in WoW in a way that's sucking my desire to login.

And yes, I'm willing to admit this might just be me, but I'm curious as to other people's thoughts.

edit: punctuation

[Heh]

Level 24 NE rogue already bored. Need to make an alt for a while or something, I want to mine shit.

[Warrik]

I have found that the people who get bored, are the people who play by themselves almost exclusively.

[Samus Aran]

I am kinda getting tired. But I think it is due to a couple of things:


1. I was pretty sick and didn't get to play for about a week, and I haven't been able to get back into the grind.

2. My server (Lothar) is towards the lower-end of the pop. spectrum, and it's hard for even me, a priest, to find a group.

I may start up on another server (Hyjal? Maybeh~) if I get too bored.

There's also a third possibility... it could be that I just can't play MMO's after my EQ stint, none of them (not even WoW) has that feeling to them anymore.

[Duppin]

Originally posted by Warrik
I have found that the people who get bored, are the people who play by themselves almost exclusively.

This is definitely part of it, but really, what are you going to group for? Instances constantly? Once you do them a few times, you generally have what you want from them and it gets boring to go through them again and again. And if you group for non-elite quests or grinding, you're generally gimping yourself XP wise.

Getting a guild would probably help somewhat but a lot of the guilds on Hyjal at least, excepting our hosts, are glorified chat channels so it doesn't really make much of a difference.

[Sean]

Originally posted by Duppin
[b]Time to ask an unpopular question, but here goes.

Anyone else getting bored with WoW?

Not yet.

1) The incentives to level aren't very good. Sure, there's increases in hp/mana/less resist rate on spells, but it doesn't feel like my character changes significantly with each level.

You're wrong. You get talent points every level (starting at 10) - talents can change/enhance your class more significantly than anything.

2) This kinda ties into my first point, but there's very little joy in getting gear upgrades.

Opinion, and I disagree. I'm pretty happy every time I upgrade a piece of gear.

3) The game is so heavily slanted towards soloing until you get up to the very top, that there's very limited interaction with other people. Every class can solo, basically and most of them can solo well, and with the gimpy group XP model, you're usually penalizing yourself if you group for anything other than elite quests/instances. I end up BSing with people in chat channels or in tells but it's pretty superficial and there's not a lot of community. Don't get me wrong, I love being able to solo, but I think they went too far in making it /preferable/ to solo rather than just possible.

I prefer it the way it is, I'd rather go at my own pace and not be forced to rely on other people until the "end game" and higher end dungeons. Which is pretty much what I did. Though once you hit the mid 50's, I think it's faster/better to group because most of the quests involve the instanced dungeons.

[Vaclav]

I agree with Warrik 100% there - playing the game duo in final with my lady is 100 times funner than when I was playing it mostly solo during beta.

I'm not sure yet, but it's feeling alot funner than EQ2 for me now that I've gotten away from soloing - but then again I'm still in the honeymoon phase since I never played too much in beta and just recently started in final.

[The Bog]

I play purely to follow Sean and /gasp at him.

[Designz]

Yes, everything feels so repetitive now (played game for about 10 game days). Since the game is fast paced, you basically do the same thing for every mob, and it just get a little more exciting when you get more than one. It was fun when I duo'ed with a friend, but our hours ended up not matching so we broke up. Now, all the groups I join last for about 10 minutes except for instance groups where I fight for 2 hours and then someone leaves, causing the party to break. It's so painful to do instances over and over again because you fight the same thing over and over again using the same abilities and strategies. When there are adds, the adrenaline rush you get from other mmorpgs is almost nonexistant since it isn't as hard to kill them (even one add in EQ or FFXI can kill your group).

[Sean]

My pants grow three sizes each time Bog passes.

[Zehn - Vhex]

You don't have to 'group' to socialize. I fucking hate that concept and I wish I could shoot every mother fucker who thinks it.

You do realize that whether my avatar is standing next to you, or I'm 13 zones away that I'm still sitting here in my underwear eating popcorn, watching Silence of the Lambs for the 8th time...right?

Anyways, I've been 60 since November and I'm still not getting bored. I lead my own guild though, and I'm just waiting for a couple friends to get home from the holiday shit so we can start pharming lower BRS.

WoW, EQ2, FFxi...whatever your flavor....they're all just glorified chat rooms.

[ZamEq]

I'm bored for a few reasons aside from the important ones you mentioned.

At lvl 60, there's not much to do besides a few dungeons and pvp (til raids) and they get boring fast. I'm not sure why either, when most of us spent weeks and weeks in spots like Sebilis and didn't really mind.

With WoW dungeons I find they look cooler than anything I've ever seen in a game and are designed masterfully, but after beating them once I'd choose to never go back if it weren't for a couple drops my group needs. As a melee it's just the same routine in every dungeon of fighting 3-5 mobs with trash adds every single pull and it doesn't seem to ever change. I'd love some variety here, but after seeing Maraudon, the newest dungeon, it doesn't seem like they have any intention of making group fights different.

Also due to WoW's fast pace, unless you started up with a guild from the get go, in WoW you never really get a chance to stop and chat and meet people since you plow through areas like it's D2 when solo, and even when grouped in the top dungeons. I'm not saying I enjoyed downtime or slower fights, but it did seem to leave a lot more time to actually talk to people and bullshit with em. EQ is turnbased by comparison..

Then there's loot. I don't even honestly see a point in gearing up when everything is trivial already. There's no joy in getting a new weapon to do a little more dmg when you already owned stuff so hard before. I'm sure with raid loot you'll become gods, but at what cost?

Experience - shoot me down if you will, I hated AA too, but something about never getting xp again makes WoW incredibly unfun. I wish there was some way to keep getting xp for something right now, even if it was just a small boon and not something as required as AA points. Perhaps Hero Classes will help alleviate this problem in some way, who knows.

Lastly, when raids do become the main focus. Do we really want to go through the exact same thing we did in EQ and keep gearing up for that next encounter with no end? I may be jaded, but I can't picture myself doing this same routine again. It doesn't even sound remotely fun after doing it in EQ for 5 years unless there's some serious changes in how high end content is implemented. Right now PVP is a lot more fun imho than ever going through that again, which is sad, because I hate PVP.

Bottom line.. I think WoW is a terrific game, but once you hit 60 it feels like you're repeating EQ all over again. I desire change however, so I guess WoW is not the game for me after all. At this point in my life I think what I'm looking for will be a game more like Guildwars, where I can jump right in whenever I want with a few friends and have fun for a few hrs and not be on some endless carrot chasing adventure.

For people who don't mind though, I'm sure WoW will keep them occupied for quite a long time, and I'm sure there will be lots of fun things to do in the future.

[Iannis]

I think it is that a lot of more time-matured players are getting bored faster in MMOs these days.

WoW has some of the CoH problems (fast combat, the brick wall, not as much of that feeling of "progress" EQ levels/gear gave you), but it has various things to distract you while CoH doesn't intend to implement out of combat skills for another number of months.

ergh, i can't think straight right now. i'll edit in more later..

[xilsharn]

Originally posted by potam
I am kinda getting tired. But I think it is due to a couple of things:


1. I was pretty sick and didn't get to play for about a week, and I haven't been able to get back into the grind.

2. My server (Lothar) is towards the lower-end of the pop. spectrum, and it's hard for even me, a priest, to find a group.

I may start up on another server (Hyjal? Maybeh~) if I get too bored.

There's also a third possibility... it could be that I just can't play MMO's after my EQ stint, none of them (not even WoW) has that feeling to them anymore.

Who's your character on Lothar?

[ZamEq]

Well I'll be the first to admit that a large part of my problems I listed are the fact that I went through WoW like it's EQ and that's simply not the way to play this game. It's much more fun and rewarding if you just play a few hours a day instead of hardcoring it, but some people (me) seem incapable of doing this. If I have the free time to play, it just happens.

For this I can't fault WoW for not catering to 2 % of people - it's the players fault. I fully accept this and this is why I'm not saying "WOW SUXORZ OMG" because I still think it's a great game despite my gripes. I just wish there was more of it.. or it moved much slower.