What happens when you gut the rest state...

[Brodda Thep]

Best exp is grinding while questing. Kill everything you see while questing.

[Sampo]

In many cases grinding is more efficient. not all

[Mkopec1]

You asshats are forgetting one thing though....

The way quest exp was in the past everyone was soloing quests, only grouping for the times when you had to kill stuff at a camp.

So in essence your fucking soloing , grinding quests.

Quests are all neato and cool if you like that kind of shit.

Some of us wanna log in, kill some shit for a while and advance that way. fuck the gay ass "Take this letter to General Dickhead in BFE" bullshit.

So many people all over diffrent forums are complaining that as this game is with the quest BS its soloquest. Fuck that!

So lets raise the exp for quests? Sweet! Now I can grind away at quests untill my eyes hurt and I wanna throw something at the monitor and say Fuck Blizzard, next game please......

[Khalikryst]

Originally posted by Mkopec1
You asshats are forgetting one thing though....

The way quest exp was in the past everyone was soloing quests, only grouping for the times when you had to kill stuff at a camp.

So in essence your fucking soloing , grinding quests.

Quests are all neato and cool if you like that kind of shit.

Some of us wanna log in, kill some shit for a while and advance that way. fuck the gay ass "Take this letter to General Dickhead in BFE" bullshit.

So many people all over diffrent forums are complaining that as this game is with the quest BS its soloquest. Fuck that!

So lets raise the exp for quests? Sweet! Now I can grind away at quests untill my eyes hurt and I wanna throw something at the monitor and say Fuck Blizzard, next game please......

I read this post but I refuse to try to digest it. This post is basically just like that "if it wasn't for my horse I wouldn't have gone to college" line Lewis Black likes to rant about and if you focus on it too long you're brain is sure to explode.

[Hardcore Cracka]

Originally posted by Mkopec1
You asshats are forgetting one thing though....

The way quest exp was in the past everyone was soloing quests, only grouping for the times when you had to kill stuff at a camp.

So in essence your fucking soloing , grinding quests.

Quests are all neato and cool if you like that kind of shit.

Some of us wanna log in, kill some shit for a while and advance that way. fuck the gay ass "Take this letter to General Dickhead in BFE" bullshit.

So many people all over diffrent forums are complaining that as this game is with the quest BS its soloquest. Fuck that!

So lets raise the exp for quests? Sweet! Now I can grind away at quests untill my eyes hurt and I wanna throw something at the monitor and say Fuck Blizzard, next game please......

Here's an idea:

DON'T PLAY THIS GAME LIKE EVERQUEST YOU FUCKING TOOL.

Anyhow. I'm currently lvl 45, and the only time I've ever grinded shit is when I'm mining a particular series of caves. I guess you could call that grinding. Quests are really the way to go. Oh, and I always try to get a group (usually from my guild) for all non-collection quests. It makes shit so much easier. If you feel like this game is a boring solo quest thing, then you are probably an antisocial prick.

[emoo]

Originally posted by Mkopec1
You asshats are forgetting one thing though....

The way quest exp was in the past everyone was soloing quests, only grouping for the times when you had to kill stuff at a camp.

So in essence your fucking soloing , grinding quests.

Quests are all neato and cool if you like that kind of shit.

Some of us wanna log in, kill some shit for a while and advance that way. fuck the gay ass "Take this letter to General Dickhead in BFE" bullshit.

So many people all over diffrent forums are complaining that as this game is with the quest BS its soloquest. Fuck that!

So lets raise the exp for quests? Sweet! Now I can grind away at quests untill my eyes hurt and I wanna throw something at the monitor and say Fuck Blizzard, next game please......

ok i couldnt gather anything out of your post other than a vague disgust for WoW.

in a progression based game, you have to level. either way youre going to be repeatedly completing objectives whether its killin', tradeskillin', questin' or illin'.
so, what type of progression do you want out of a game? maybe MMORPG's arent for you?

[Noubourne]

My highest level char is 33, but I have enjoyed being able to solo for the vast majority of my XP doing quests alone.

I really like the group dynamic, but inevitably the groups I get in suck in ways I am not able to fathom. I don't want to sit around for 15 minutes because half of them need an afk, need to figure out what quests they have, and none of them have cosmos so we spend 10 minutes just trying to figure out what to do next. Questing in groups, minus the elite quests, have taken two to four times as long as just soloing the stuff myself.

Eventually I'm sure I'll find a guild with players who have a similar play style as I do, but for now the best thing to do is solo, and I'm glad that I'm able to do it effectively and all the way to the top. I venture to say I would hate this game if I was forced to group all the time because most of the players that I tend to hook up with are MMO tards for whatever reason.

I dont' see myself ever grinding except to get skill points. At this point I really don't have a need for more skill points, and except for SP I don't see much reason to grind since you might as well just get the items and cash and xp from questing rather than just sit in one spot and kill stuff ad nauseum. I personally LIKE the quests. I like reading them, I like exploring to complete them, I like the items I get from them, and I like the money too. My bags are usually full about the time I've finished a big quest anyway, so it's time to go back to town and sell at that point anyway.

[Callon]

Just curious as someone who's not in beta...

for quests how do you go about doing groups? People are talking like it's just as easy if not easier to solo the quests. So first what is your motivation to get a group beyond simply wanting to talk to people?

Second, how do you go about doing groups for your quests? Is it something where you're asking people to come help you complete your quest? What's in it for them? Can they work on the same quest at the same time and get it for everyone in the group? Or do you end up doing a quest for one person and then hopefully people stick around to do a quest for someone else, etc.?

Just trying to figure out how this system does/will work when all of us can play.

[Samus Aran]

I think some of you are missing the point of the original post, its not "what did you do to hit 50,"

its

"So really, while questing is a nice diversion, grinding is still the fastest and most profitable."

right?

[Kildace]

Originally posted by Callon
Just curious as someone who's not in beta...

for quests how do you go about doing groups? People are talking like it's just as easy if not easier to solo the quests. So first what is your motivation to get a group beyond simply wanting to talk to people?

Second, how do you go about doing groups for your quests? Is it something where you're asking people to come help you complete your quest? What's in it for them? Can they work on the same quest at the same time and get it for everyone in the group? Or do you end up doing a quest for one person and then hopefully people stick around to do a quest for someone else, etc.?

Just trying to figure out how this system does/will work when all of us can play.

Some quests are better suited for solo, some are better for groups, I'd honestly rather duo or trio a quest than solo it even if I could because I play MMOs for the social aspect.

Group questing is : you say for which quest you're lfg, then you find other people, and do a series of quests you have in common then. There is nothing for them if you do quests they don't have besides regular grinding xp.

[Mkopec1]

Originally posted by emoo
ok i couldnt gather anything out of your post other than a vague disgust for WoW.

in a progression based game, you have to level. either way youre going to be repeatedly completing objectives whether its killin', tradeskillin', questin' or illin'.
so, what type of progression do you want out of a game? maybe MMORPG's arent for you?

I thought it was rather clear. Fuck the quests, make them a part of the overall experience not THE experience.

So If I dot wanna run quests like Indiana Jones that night I might as well not play right?

Quests should be a way to level not the only way.

IT totally ruins the social aspects of the game. Everyone is soloing.

[Mazuli]

I'm level 50 and rarely ever had more than 2 bubbles of rested exp (before the latest rest changes) and found grinding to be more efficient than questing. A small part could be due to the fact that I am on the horde side where there aren't as many quests to do per zone (which means more running). Am I qualified enough to make this statement or will a non beta tester tell me I'm not?

[Khalikryst]

Originally posted by Mazuli
I'm level 50 and rarely ever had more than 2 bubbles of rested exp (before the latest rest changes) and found grinding to be more efficient than questing. A small part could be due to the fact that I am on the horde side where there aren't as many quests to do per zone (which means more running). Am I qualified enough to make this statement or will a non beta tester tell me I'm not?

Actually, this is a good point in regards to why some testers have different view points on this. Currently Horde definitely has less quests than Alliance and the devs have admitted they need to address that.

Furthermore, if you play on the PVP server this problem is even worse because you have alot of content that's basically less accessible due to the presence of the enemy.

So in terms of who can quest through the levels Alliance players on the Beta server definitely have it the easiest being able to level completely through quests while Horde players on the PvP server are having to grind to finish levels.

As for Mkopec1, you probably should just return to making those little statues you like to make out of your own poop until your handler returns with your medication tray.

[DisgruntledOrangatang]

I have a question on how quests work? What do people mean when they say they have quests left over? Can you not do quests once you are 'too high' just for the fun and the reward if you are past the level range for them?

[Cybsled]

You can do grey quests...but the reward is usually sucktastic and not worth your time

Usually...

SFK really needs to be retweaked in how the quest cons. The boss is frickin lvl 27 and the quest greens at around 20...