EQ2 retexturings

Samus Aran · 07-16-2004, 08:04 PM

I know most of you don't give a shit, but for those of you with open minds:

http://eq2players.station.sony.com/

They've released new examples of retextured models for Dark Elves, Half Elves and Humans.

They're not perfect, but they're definitely a step forward. Not very shiny any more. I do love the look of the human female, though. Excellent job on that one.

Vekruul Shuth · 07-16-2004, 08:18 PM

Well...The biggest complaint out of the EQ2 camp thus far was the character models...check to SOE.

chackle · 07-16-2004, 08:39 PM

I've got an open mind, but damn, those human and half-elf models have eyes like stoners or mongaloids....detracts from the whole thing for me.

Nanaki Ikanan · 07-16-2004, 08:49 PM

They still look like crappily-made action figures or something you'd find in the bargain bin at toys-r-us.

Dahlrek · 07-16-2004, 09:01 PM

I'm not a huge fan of some of the armor pieces, and I definitely don't like a lot of the hair, but otherwise they look pretty decent. Definitely better than before. Have to see it in motion to get a better idea though.

Neric · 07-16-2004, 09:37 PM

This case is hopeless. SoE is lacking skilled artists I am afraid. Whenever they released the Luclin models it got worse. Obviously they are trying to follow up on the mistake by insisting on it. Still, I am sure that 99% of the playerbase will agree on the fact that the original models looked best. Now you cannot use the exact same models on EQ 2 because they look technically outdated, but one could simply create high quality versions of these. When will SoE ever realize that nobody wants to drink their new formular Coke? People want EQ classic!

Samus Aran · 07-16-2004, 09:46 PM

As long as the eyes and hairstyle are customizable, I rather like the style shown in the new models.

Oh wait, god forbid that EQ2 have a different style of modeling than WoW.. Only WoW can get away with having a unique(cartoony in this case) style.

Kolle · 07-16-2004, 09:49 PM

It could be just me, but...

Aren't their bodies completely out of whack? The shapes and sizes/lengths of their heads/arms/torso/legs just don't see natural.

It's as if they took body parts from differently sized people and glued them together.

Khrath · 07-16-2004, 10:04 PM

SOE theory on models is to overkill the poly count on purpose, so that no system will be able to run it with max settings upon release.

In theory the idea they have about making the technology in the game last for years to come is great, but whoever is in charge of putting this into effect is mistaking high poly count for cutting edge graphics.

SOE won't change anything though, because they think peoples major concern is the high poly count bogging down their current systems, when in fact people just want models that look good. Hell you could halve the poly count on eq2's models, put a decent skin job on them, and have an awesome game for years to come.

Coraniz · 07-16-2004, 10:14 PM

They still look plastic to me. God damn look at the hair.

Chantado · 07-16-2004, 11:30 PM

http://everquest2.station.sony.com//...an/human03.jpg

.....wtf this looks like shit.

Kiksar · 07-16-2004, 11:31 PM

I won't even start

Neric · 07-17-2004, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kolle
It could be just me, but...

Aren't their bodies completely out of whack? The shapes and sizes/lengths of their heads/arms/torso/legs just don't see natural.

It's as if they took body parts from differently sized people and glued them together.

That has already been the case with Luclin models. It seems they have all been designed by the same guy. This is the only guy in the company that should have been fired but kept his job, while all other talented people got kicked....

Zignor · 07-17-2004, 12:39 AM

/shrug

They look fine to me. As long as they don't move around like the half retarded Luclin models, I'd be happy if they looked that that for release. Honestly, it's a fucking video game, they don't need to look real.

And just to stir the pot... EQ2 models > WoW models.

Vekruul Shuth · 07-17-2004, 12:47 AM

Quote:

.....wtf this looks like shit.

That model looks better than any WOW model I have seen.

07-16-2004, 08:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Samus Aran Sons of the Storm Heal Bitch Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 771 +1 Internets	EQ2 retexturings I know most of you don't give a shit, but for those of you with open minds: http://eq2players.station.sony.com/ They've released new examples of retextured models for Dark Elves, Half Elves and Humans. They're not perfect, but they're definitely a step forward. Not very shiny any more. I do love the look of the human female, though. Excellent job on that one.

07-16-2004, 09:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Neric <insert funny comment here> Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,934 -2 Internets	This case is hopeless. SoE is lacking skilled artists I am afraid. Whenever they released the Luclin models it got worse. Obviously they are trying to follow up on the mistake by insisting on it. Still, I am sure that 99% of the playerbase will agree on the fact that the original models looked best. Now you cannot use the exact same models on EQ 2 because they look technically outdated, but one could simply create high quality versions of these. When will SoE ever realize that nobody wants to drink their new formular Coke? People want EQ classic! __________________ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident - Arthur Schopenhauer

07-16-2004, 11:31 PM	#12 (permalink)
Kiksar X-D Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 815 +3 Internets	I won't even start __________________

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07-16-2004, 08:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
Vekruul Shuth Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 605 -3 Internets	Well...The biggest complaint out of the EQ2 camp thus far was the character models...check to SOE.

07-16-2004, 08:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
chackle Heavy Breather Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 404 +0 Internets	I've got an open mind, but damn, those human and half-elf models have eyes like stoners or mongaloids....detracts from the whole thing for me.

07-16-2004, 08:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nanaki Ikanan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 459 -1 Internets	They still look like crappily-made action figures or something you'd find in the bargain bin at toys-r-us.

07-16-2004, 09:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dahlrek Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 154 -1 Internets	I'm not a huge fan of some of the armor pieces, and I definitely don't like a lot of the hair, but otherwise they look pretty decent. Definitely better than before. Have to see it in motion to get a better idea though.

07-16-2004, 09:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
Samus Aran Sons of the Storm Heal Bitch Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 771 +1 Internets	As long as the eyes and hairstyle are customizable, I rather like the style shown in the new models. Oh wait, god forbid that EQ2 have a different style of modeling than WoW.. Only WoW can get away with having a unique(cartoony in this case) style.

07-16-2004, 09:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kolle Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 4,879 -26 Internets	It could be just me, but... Aren't their bodies completely out of whack? The shapes and sizes/lengths of their heads/arms/torso/legs just don't see natural. It's as if they took body parts from differently sized people and glued them together.

07-16-2004, 10:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
Khrath Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5 +0 Internets	SOE theory on models is to overkill the poly count on purpose, so that no system will be able to run it with max settings upon release. In theory the idea they have about making the technology in the game last for years to come is great, but whoever is in charge of putting this into effect is mistaking high poly count for cutting edge graphics. SOE won't change anything though, because they think peoples major concern is the high poly count bogging down their current systems, when in fact people just want models that look good. Hell you could halve the poly count on eq2's models, put a decent skin job on them, and have an awesome game for years to come.

07-16-2004, 10:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
Coraniz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 213 -1 Internets	They still look plastic to me. God damn look at the hair.

07-16-2004, 11:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
Chantado Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 198 +0 Internets	http://everquest2.station.sony.com//...an/human03.jpg .....wtf this looks like shit.

07-17-2004, 12:39 AM	#14 (permalink)
Zignor Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 196 -1 Internets	/shrug They look fine to me. As long as they don't move around like the half retarded Luclin models, I'd be happy if they looked that that for release. Honestly, it's a fucking video game, they don't need to look real. And just to stir the pot... EQ2 models > WoW models.