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Old 04-06-2004, 10:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Matrix Online (from revolutions DVD)

Anyone watched the "bonus feature" about the Matrix online game?

If they somehow manage to pull off everything they are claiming it seems fairly impressive.

Seemless world with ever room in every building being explorable, martial arts combat with "matrix super abilities," and as all new games claim: "a constantly changing and evolving world."

Anyone following this closely that knows more? Or do people think they can actually pull it off?
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Old 04-06-2004, 10:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 04-06-2004, 10:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Didn't ubi drop as the publisher for this game? It sounds sort of interesting, but not something I'd pay for.
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Old 04-06-2004, 10:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
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See, what bothers me about this game, and in particular Middle Earth Online, is the time frame chosen for the game to take place in. I'm not positive when in the Matrix universe the game will be taking place, but, my guess would that they would try to squeeze it in between the first and second movies, so that they can satisfy the less hardcore Matrix fans ("Omgz hi Neo!!!!") and because there's a really indefinate period of time there that they can kind of squeeze a game into so the continuity, or what there is of one, doesn't get messed up.

But even if they do manage to make it fit, like in Middle Earth Online, there is still sort of a limited time frame that events can occur in. If it's a "constantly changing world" like it claims to be, then the changes must be pretty superficial unless they want to seriously mess with the story line. And you can only have so many expansions, as well, though how they would even begin to make an expansion for the Matrix baffles me.

Besides, can you even imagine all the lamers that will try to make a name that sounds/looks like "The One?"
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Old 04-06-2004, 10:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Besides, can you even imagine all the lamers that will try to make a name that sounds/looks like "The One?"
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Old 04-06-2004, 11:00 AM   #6 (permalink)
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the game is supposed to take place Post-Revolutions FYI, so they can develop the world in pretty much any way they see fit.
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Old 04-06-2004, 11:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Or keeping with the original matrix film (not the one that somewhat sucked after), the timeframe you are in could be resumed by telling nothing about it. Basically the player will of course meta-analyze his character situation and know that he is in the "matrix", but the character has no idea till he find information in game via quest, etc.

What you should also not know and should have a very hard time finding is when exactly are you in term of the films? This should be left unclear the longest possible time. Are you before the 6th Neo? Before the 1st and Zion? etc.

And secondly, they really have to make it possible for the game to not follow the film path in term of storyline. How can you even have a matrix like story if you already know the end? It needs to be open to other stuff.

Personnaly I'm really looking forward for the uber cyberbunk like futurist game that may or may not eventually come out, but I'm not really holding my breath on this one.

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Old 04-06-2004, 11:11 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Wait, wait, wait...POST revolutions?

I'm sorry, didn't the war between man and machine, y'know, END at the end of that sorry film? So what are they going to say?

"Uhm, yeah, the war is ended, but...uh...the robots decided to continue harvesting humans for their natural body heat, and the people from Zion decided to keep trying to free them...and...actually, no, the war didn't end. Neo was a hoax, yeah, that's the ticket. A hoax. Now sleeep...and buy our game...and our other merchandise...that's right...now bend over, ever so slightly. You might feel a pinch. AH, there we go. That's right. Take it up the ass, you gullible swine, you."
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Old 04-06-2004, 11:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 04-06-2004, 11:24 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Well, not to argue retarded stuff but they made it very clear at the end of revolution that the humans are mostly staying in the machine for now. Basically they could not all survive the shock of living normally. And living where? There is no sun, the world is mostly destroyed.

Not that I would put the game in that period, but not like it's over.

It's a bit like Return of the Jedi, the Emperor is dead, but then if you really care you realise that the Empire is huge and the rebels have only put a small dent in there and it's far from over. Thus the 12980-2139879182380 01923080123980128903980129830 (mostly worthless) books on the subjets afterwards.

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Old 04-06-2004, 11:35 AM   #11 (permalink)
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aye, all the machines agreed to do was allow people to make the choice to leave (wether conciously or sub-conciously I'm not sure... more fancy Matrix stuff ).

Either way, the matrix still exists and continues to run, just with a "cease-fire" between humans and machines.
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Old 04-06-2004, 11:39 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure it has to do between a battle between humans that want mankind to stay plugged into the matrix after the war and those that want to free mankind from it to enter the "real" world. Been awhile since i looked at anything from that game but that's what it was months ago...
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Old 04-06-2004, 11:45 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Except Luke didn't sacrifice himself at the end of RotJ to save the rebellion, he severed the head of the Empire. Neo pulled a Christ in the attempt to solve all the major issues, like, the pesky Mr. Smith infestation, and, if I recall, the bargain he made with the creepy baby-face was to end the war if he could get rid of Mr. Smith. So, if the war is over, where is the conflict? I'm sorry, but a story without conflict is dull dull dull, and a game without conflict is more akin to watching a cartoon about paint drying than anything else.

In conclusion, I still stand by my ass-rape statement.

[edit: Sorry, others got in before I did. If the conflict is now human vs. human, I can see a better potential there, but I'd still prefer if the game took place well before Neo ever came into the equation.]
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What really gets me about the Matrix Online is I have no idea what the hell are they going to use as a game play mechanize. Think about it, the only person who ever really fought against anything or got into any fights at all where handful of ‘special’ characters (Neo being the One, Trinity having a ‘destiny’, etc.) and even then most of the fighting was handled by one guy alone, who you know happened to be god-like.

If they turn The Matrix Online into an exp fest (a la Ever Quest) where you spend all your time fighting something, perhaps a bunch of smiths or rouge programs (again remember only one character was really able to deal with either of these enemy’s) I’ll be sick.

I just don’t see how they plan to translate a movie, that was based around one character being like god and every other character reacting to the fact god is alive and walking among them/fighting to save them, into a MMORPG. It just vexes me.
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Old 04-06-2004, 12:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The point of conflict could be...

rogue programs, other humans, rogue machines...the most logical assumption would be a conflict between men.
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