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Old 01-09-2004, 10:29 AM   #16 (permalink)
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lotr3 is predicted to hit a billion^^
rotk has been out 3 weeks and its already 18th on the all-time list.

http://movies.go.com/boxoffice/Alltime.html

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Old 01-09-2004, 11:02 AM   #17 (permalink)
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got some Damn good movies in that top 20 list......

while i don't think returnof the king will beat titanic domestic, i bet it comes close world wide(titanic is 1.8 billion world wide)
i i think return of the king will end up around the 400 million mark though domestic.

most of my favorite moves are on that list,

the sixth sense wow never knew it made that much, a very GOOD movie one of my favorite movies.
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Old 01-09-2004, 11:05 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Negative. Cant touch the numbers Titanic put up. Nothign has.
Depending on how you define "most succesful ever" Gone with the Wind begs to differ....
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Old 01-09-2004, 11:15 AM   #19 (permalink)
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yup, ffxi lost more people because of the japs having such a huge head start than anything I think, its just not fun to be so far behind people and then on top of that be forced to play with them when you cant even understand them.

Heh, I'm damn glad I got on a year late. There has been a year of testing and patchs (although it didn't need it anything like EQ did and still does), there are high level people to help you with quests (and they do) there are high level crafters to make useful items, there are people that have done the high level quests for items and spells so you have the option of simply buying instead of spending the time to do it yourself, and when you go auction some stuff there are people with money to actually buy it.

You're not "behind" anyone, the game isn't a race to the level cap in order to show you have the biggest MMORPG dick (and lack of a real life.)
ya its much better to get everything handed to you on a silver platter and not have to work or be the first to try something, after the point of a game is get to the end with a little work as possible so using as many strat guides and cheat codes as you can find is almost always sure to give you a better overall experience.. oh wait.. thats not true at all! And how can you not be behind people, you play a communist version of the game where everyone is equal no matter their abilities, the lvl 1 white mage isnt behind the lvl 70 one at all right? bull
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Old 01-09-2004, 11:32 AM   #20 (permalink)
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ya its much better to get everything handed to you on a silver platter and not have to work or be the first to try something, after the point of a game is get to the end with a little work as possible so using as many strat guides and cheat codes as you can find is almost always sure to give you a better overall experience.. oh wait.. thats not true at all! And how can you not be behind people, you play a communist version of the game where everyone is equal no matter their abilities, the lvl 1 white mage isnt behind the lvl 70 one at all right? bull

You're making no sense, Square isn't forcing you to read cheat guides or accept help from higher level players. If the fact that someone else has a higher level character in a game than you do pisses you off, it's time to quit video games and go see a shrink.
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Old 01-09-2004, 11:52 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I feel the same way about FFXI being released late here, i'll just express it differently.

If i'm playing some single player game or a small scale multi-player (diablo for example), then i could care less if someone is already beaten the game or gotten ahead of me. i'm playing the game for fun.

something on the scale of EQ or FFXI is different. I'm playing with thousands of other ppl. I want to be one of the best and one of the firsts to kill or accomplish what the game has to offer. That's how i enjoy a mmorpg. If you question that, then you must also question your own reasons, because i will not condemn anyone for playing mmorpg's simply for fun or as a hobby.

FFXI already being played for 1 year was a big factor in me not buying it. There are other reasons, but had it been released in the states at the same time, I might have bought it.

If i want to play a game for fun that thousands of ppl have probably beaten already, i'll go buy a ps2 game. That's why i have one sitting next to my tv.

For me mmorpg is a competition. Getting to the top content first and becoming the most powerful player of a particular class are my goals. They don't have to be yours, but they are mine.
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Old 01-09-2004, 03:30 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Inflation adjusted, Titanic comes in 6th:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted/
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Adjusted to the estimated 2003 average ticket price of $6.03. Inflation-adjustment is mostly done by multiplying estimated admissions by the latest average ticket price. Where admissions are unavailable, adjustment is based on the average ticket price for when each movie was released (taking in to account re-releases where applicable).


This is the WRONG way of doing this in SO MANY WAYS.

First off, recessions, depressions, gluts and booms sculpt the economy, altering budgets of people before they even decide to go see a movie or not. Setting some "average ticket price" is ridiculous. Inflation doesn't scale LINEARLY. Last I checked, movie ticket prices aren't locked to the economy and they aren't traded on the commodities exchanges.

This method clearly makes older films worth more, and newer films worth less. Back when gone with the wind was #1 tickets were a fraction of $6.03, whereas I know people who've paid $20 to see matrix on an IMAX screen.

Besides, this ignores DVD/VHS and merch sales. Something tells me noone went out and bought the Gone With the Wind PS2 game.

What we need are the numbers of admissions scaled to today, with the numbers of any merch scaled to today, and I assure you that Titanic, Matrix, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars will come on top easily.

I'm just assuming, but just from figuring the # of tickets purchased from that lame chart, you can then see that "most popular" movie and "most $ grossing film at the box office" are not the same film.

As soon as you boil the numbers enough, it becomes less about the most money making film and the blelbelbealbaleblaebllaeb
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Old 01-09-2004, 04:52 PM   #23 (permalink)
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It was also a controversal movie, because they said "I dont give a damn" in it! THE HORROR!!!!
The scene with Vivien Leigh being in under garments was considered the most shocking thing ever. It is amazing how much society can change in 70 years. Thank you Hugh Heffner.
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Old 01-11-2004, 12:50 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Lineage doesn't count as the biggest MMOG.. But this does.(700k simultaneous conn)

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http://www.wemade.com/english/history/main01.html

Lineage doesn't really count in terms of accounts since it's all cybercafe based(been rehashed repeatedly). But this game is a direct account based game.. They hit 700k simultaneous users over a year ago. I heard of this for the first time today.. Fucking Chinese. jesus :P
China is cybercafe based too.
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Old 01-11-2004, 01:19 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Funny that the original Matrix is only ranked 82.
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Old 01-11-2004, 07:25 PM   #26 (permalink)
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China may be Cafe based for many accounts but they are all still individual paid accounts. It doesnt matter where they play...

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Old 01-12-2004, 05:55 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Old 01-12-2004, 07:38 AM   #28 (permalink)
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China may be Cafe based for many accounts but they are all still individual paid accounts. It doesnt matter where they play...

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so lineage is free?
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Old 01-12-2004, 03:16 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Lineage is "indirect pay". The PC-Baang (the Taiwanese Cybercafes) pay a flat fee to allow their IP address to play the game. Anyone playing from one of these cybers can play without having to subscribe. Instead, they pay the per-hour fee of the baang, and that's all from their PoV.

The Baang pay their global fee to attract customers. If their customers can't play Lineage (or any of the similar priced games) there, they're going to go somewhere else.

If you aren't playing at a registered baang, then you do need to pay for your account (which will work anywhere then, even in the baangs... where you pay twice, in fact).
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Old 01-12-2004, 08:41 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Gone with teh wind numbers are also overinflated

think about this..it was probably th ONLY decision for a movie that week

timing was all it was there
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