Sons of Anarchy (Season 2) - Page 5

Chanur · 10-10-2009, 11:17 PM

I think she will side with Clay again.

Heylel Teomim · 10-13-2009, 09:01 PM

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Chanur · 10-13-2009, 09:03 PM

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Heylel Teomim · 10-13-2009, 09:07 PM

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Chanur · 10-13-2009, 09:13 PM

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kcxiv · 10-22-2009, 02:32 PM

Very very intersting episode. The fight in jail was needed. The bathroom scene had me laughing.

This show beat Jay Leno and Forgotten in the ratings. Did it all while being on FX.

Adam12 · 10-22-2009, 02:35 PM

So when the guards let Clay back into the cell, and called for Jax, wtf happened? How did that fight happen w/o the guards breaking it up? Were they on orders from Whatsherface?

Chanur · 10-22-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam12

So when the guards let Clay back into the cell, and called for Jax, wtf happened? How did that fight happen w/o the guards breaking it up? Were they on orders from Whatsherface?

Well they said

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As for the guards letting them fight, i'm sure that happens all the time for entertainment, specially if the guards are on the take.

I was also happy to see Clay getting smacked around a little, he needs his head pulled out.

Heylel Teomim · 10-22-2009, 02:45 PM

Probably, yes. She deliberately set him off so he'd go after Jax, hoping that it would anger Jax long enough for her to make a deal with him. Problem is, Jax isn't the same kind of hothead he was at the start of season 1, nor was he ever as reactionary as Clay. Now she knows it.

Jax opened a can of worms by mentioning Cohn though. That was a significant error, and it's going to end up biting him in the ass somehow. If nothing else, now FBI girl knows to dig around.

edit: Yeah, Clay is going to be ten times worse now because he didn't just outright mop the floor with Jax. I think he expected to dominate, and that just didn't happen. He'll never back down though, and despite Clay starting the fight it's going to cost Jax a ton of influence in the club. Other charters are going to take notice once they hear about it.

Lleauaric~EW · 10-22-2009, 03:42 PM

As far as the guards letting them fight: Its a holding cell with 30+ dudes in it. Think about it.

Chanur · 10-22-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Heylel Teomim

Probably, yes. She deliberately set him off so he'd go after Jax, hoping that it would anger Jax long enough for her to make a deal with him. Problem is, Jax isn't the same kind of hothead he was at the start of season 1, nor was he ever as reactionary as Clay. Now she knows it.

Jax opened a can of worms by mentioning Cohn though. That was a significant error, and it's going to end up biting him in the ass somehow. If nothing else, now FBI girl knows to dig around.

edit: Yeah, Clay is going to be ten times worse now because he didn't just outright mop the floor with Jax. I think he expected to dominate, and that just didn't happen. He'll never back down though, and despite Clay starting the fight it's going to cost Jax a ton of influence in the club. Other charters are going to take notice once they hear about it.

I pretty much agree. I also think Clay killed Jax's dad. I am wondering if that will ever come out. If it does...oh fuck.

I'm wondering if Jax is gonna bury his beef for the good of the club.

Heylel Teomim · 10-22-2009, 10:06 PM

It's Hamlet, of course he did. Clay and Gemma conspired in some way to have John Teller offed, we just don't know how or why yet. Almost certainly it had to do with his choice to lead the Sons away from a life of crime. We should find out as the series progresses.

That reminds me, the most interesting part of the episode to me wasn't the fight, or any of the jail stuff. It's the fact that Elliot Oswald actually ponied up 300k against 3 million in property to get the man who blackmailed him out of jail. It's clear from the way the scene plays out that Elliot and Gemma have some history we don't know about, and it must be something pretty big for that kind of cash.

My pet theory is that Gemma is an Oswald by birth, or related in some way. We know she grew up in Charming and then ran away, and we know the Sons came to Charming with her guidance when she returned on the arm of John Teller. Elliot says in s1 that the Oswalds have been in Charming since before the Sons, and Clay obviously has some unresolved issues with him. I'm thinking her roots in Charming go a lot deeper than we know. Either she's a relative, or she has some personal history with Elliot. Nothing else explains that kind of favor, not even helping Elliot's daughter get over her trauma.

Brutul Tarew Marr · 10-23-2009, 07:59 AM

Hale said something about caring about "people you grew up with" referring to Gemma.

Heylel Teomim · 10-23-2009, 08:30 AM

I care a lot about people I grew up with too, but I wouldn't put up 3 million in assets for em. I would for my sister.

Necrath Evilcraft · 10-23-2009, 12:18 PM

This might be a play to get his blackmail evidence that SamCro has on him destroyed.

10-13-2009, 09:01 PM	#62 (permalink)
Heylel Teomim The Educated Fool Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,989 +19 Internets	Spoiler Alert, click show to read: Great episode. Once Gemma finds out they're arrested she's really going to hit bottom. Hopefully the arrest will cause people to start realizing Clay is pushing things too far, and Jax won't be quite so far out in the cold.

10-13-2009, 09:03 PM	#63 (permalink)
Chanur Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 1,356 -19 Internets	Spoiler Alert, click show to read: Should have listened to Jaxx. Really fucking things up. Also fuck Opie, way to turn on your best friend. What a bitch.

10-13-2009, 09:07 PM	#64 (permalink)
Heylel Teomim The Educated Fool Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,989 +19 Internets	Spoiler Alert, click show to read: Opie is in hell right now, and he's throwing himself into the most violence possible. If he had any clue of what Clay's involvement with Donna's death was, he'd have cut his heart out long ago.

10-13-2009, 09:13 PM	#65 (permalink)
Chanur Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 1,356 -19 Internets	Spoiler Alert, click show to read: He threatened to kill Jax right to his face. There is a lot more going on with him and Jax than just shit.

10-22-2009, 02:32 PM	#66 (permalink)
kcxiv Sim Join Date: May 2002 Location: Central Valley, Cali Posts: 4,160 -1 Internets	Very very intersting episode. The fight in jail was needed. The bathroom scene had me laughing. This show beat Jay Leno and Forgotten in the ratings. Did it all while being on FX. __________________ Kcxiv

10-10-2009, 11:17 PM	#61 (permalink)
Chanur Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 1,356 -19 Internets	I think she will side with Clay again.

10-22-2009, 02:35 PM	#67 (permalink)
Adam12 Hobophobic Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,317 +26 Internets	So when the guards let Clay back into the cell, and called for Jax, wtf happened? How did that fight happen w/o the guards breaking it up? Were they on orders from Whatsherface?

10-22-2009, 02:45 PM	#69 (permalink)
Heylel Teomim The Educated Fool Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,989 +19 Internets	Probably, yes. She deliberately set him off so he'd go after Jax, hoping that it would anger Jax long enough for her to make a deal with him. Problem is, Jax isn't the same kind of hothead he was at the start of season 1, nor was he ever as reactionary as Clay. Now she knows it. Jax opened a can of worms by mentioning Cohn though. That was a significant error, and it's going to end up biting him in the ass somehow. If nothing else, now FBI girl knows to dig around. edit: Yeah, Clay is going to be ten times worse now because he didn't just outright mop the floor with Jax. I think he expected to dominate, and that just didn't happen. He'll never back down though, and despite Clay starting the fight it's going to cost Jax a ton of influence in the club. Other charters are going to take notice once they hear about it.

10-22-2009, 03:42 PM	#70 (permalink)
Lleauaric~EW "Hamburgers, the cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast" Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,594 +52 Internets	As far as the guards letting them fight: Its a holding cell with 30+ dudes in it. Think about it. __________________ Ask yourself....

10-22-2009, 10:06 PM	#72 (permalink)
Heylel Teomim The Educated Fool Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,989 +19 Internets	It's Hamlet, of course he did. Clay and Gemma conspired in some way to have John Teller offed, we just don't know how or why yet. Almost certainly it had to do with his choice to lead the Sons away from a life of crime. We should find out as the series progresses. That reminds me, the most interesting part of the episode to me wasn't the fight, or any of the jail stuff. It's the fact that Elliot Oswald actually ponied up 300k against 3 million in property to get the man who blackmailed him out of jail. It's clear from the way the scene plays out that Elliot and Gemma have some history we don't know about, and it must be something pretty big for that kind of cash. My pet theory is that Gemma is an Oswald by birth, or related in some way. We know she grew up in Charming and then ran away, and we know the Sons came to Charming with her guidance when she returned on the arm of John Teller. Elliot says in s1 that the Oswalds have been in Charming since before the Sons, and Clay obviously has some unresolved issues with him. I'm thinking her roots in Charming go a lot deeper than we know. Either she's a relative, or she has some personal history with Elliot. Nothing else explains that kind of favor, not even helping Elliot's daughter get over her trauma.

10-23-2009, 07:59 AM	#73 (permalink)
Brutul Tarew Marr Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun. Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,237 -1 Internets	Hale said something about caring about "people you grew up with" referring to Gemma.

10-23-2009, 08:30 AM	#74 (permalink)
Heylel Teomim The Educated Fool Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,989 +19 Internets	I care a lot about people I grew up with too, but I wouldn't put up 3 million in assets for em. I would for my sister.

10-23-2009, 12:18 PM	#75 (permalink)
Necrath Evilcraft Worthless Incarnate Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 508	This might be a play to get his blackmail evidence that SamCro has on him destroyed. __________________

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