Dexter (Season 4)

[Surlok TP]

Arthur said in an earlier episode, who knows which they all meld so well, that he had some serious issues and what not, one of his early meetings with "Kyle" and that until he met who is his current wife he was adrift. Which is to say past relationships are not out of the question, especially considering reporters ethnicity which the writers of the show would not overlook.

She wasn't at Thanksgiving because she doesn't exist to Arthur's family. Arthur went to her house because of her article on the bludgeoning which he was shown reading early in the episode, a murder he committed that she is reporting about, that the police by the way are currently not focused on which is all the more reason to not be bringing it up in the headlines. This is why he was upset when "Kyle" arrived because he read the article that morning and was stewing over it and his inability to immediately address the issue since he was tied to the home that day because of his strict adherence to tradition which is a fancy way of saying code. Nothing seems to piss Arthur off more than a loss of control especially when it comes to his family.

I don't think he knows she murdered Lundy honestly. I also don't think she knows about him either, but Quinn will require some help in the trinity case, probably via finding out about people in the Teachers union and then she'll find out that way.


Kyle told Arthur he should have killed him when he had the chance, Arthur will misconceive that to mean he should have let him fall from the roof, which is what Kyle was going to do anyway. I keep saying Kyle to drive that point home, Arthur knows a troubled man by the name of Kyle Butler which will lead reporter daughter astray for the time being if he does in fact convince her to go looking for him.

Leaving Dexter to deal with his exceedingly fucked up family.

[Szlia]

They (and we!) are pretty lucky to have John Lithgow to play Trinity because he does a great great job.

As it even seems the writers will be able to wrap things up unexpectedly well, this good very well be the best season of the show.

[jcdent0n]

Originally Posted by Eyashusa

I am thinking that the reporter is going to help Trinity identify Dexter for who he really is.

Also the fact that she skipped Thanksgiving could mean she is from another relationship Trinity had and his family doesn't know about her maybe? I can't think of a reason why they would do that but it's a possibility.

I think something along those things is accurate. Along that line of thought Trinity's wife obviously doesn't give to shits about the daughter. She doesn't care if Dexter is banging her and she obviously skips over her during her "giving of thanks" at dinner. That was definitely more than a simple slip of the mind - something fishy going on there. Perhaps the daughter isn't hers or something *shrug*.

[Tortfeasor]

Originally Posted by jcdent0n

I think something along those things is accurate. Along that line of thought Trinity's wife obviously doesn't give to shits about the daughter. She doesn't care if Dexter is banging her and she obviously skips over her during her "giving of thanks" at dinner. That was definitely more than a simple slip of the mind - something fishy going on there. Perhaps the daughter isn't hers or something *shrug*.

I thought that was weird too. Maybe trinity is diddling his daughter?

Edit:
Am I remembering incorrectly or did Trinity refer to the 15-year-old as Vera (his cremated sister) at the dinner table?

[Madoc]

If you check imdb, the daughter's name is Rebecca Simmons, not Rebecca Mitchell, and the wife's name is Sally Simmons, which i think is interesting. But the son's name is listed Jonah Mitchell. Not quite sure what this means. Maybe the daughter was from the wife's past marriage?

[jcdent0n]

Originally Posted by Tortfeasor

I thought that was weird too. Maybe trinity is diddling his daughter?

Edit:
Am I remembering incorrectly or did Trinity refer to the 15-year-old as Vera (his cremated sister) at the dinner table?

Yeah. And when Jonah was yelling he said something about her not being Vera. I think it was pretty common place for Arthur to project his sister onto the daughter.

[larseny316]

Originally Posted by Surlok TP

I also don't think she knows about him either, but Quinn will require some help in the trinity case, probably via finding out about people in the Teachers union and then she'll find out that way.

Have to disagree there, if she is ignorant of her father being Trinity, then then we are back to the idiotic motive that she killed Lundy for the story. Who just coincidentally is investigating a killer, who happens to be her dad. Thats too far a stretch. It is a much more elegant package that she killed Lundy to protect her father, protecting him and possibly seeking his approval.

Overall, great episode. I definitely feel that the reporter will link Kyle/Dexter for Trinity and put them on even footing for the showdown. Responding to an earlier poster, I don't feel that Trinitys family went downhill recently, when Dexter was spying on them, he was still witnessing a show. The show the family puts on isn't just for an outsiders benefit, its for their own sake. If they don't great their father with open arms after his trip, then they end up imprisoned in their room with broken fingers. Of course they will act all loving.

[Zinke]

Anyone being all surprised that some people here correctly predicted the reporter as the shooter just don't understand basic plot devices. You have a finite number of regular characters on a show, and then they suddenly introduce 1-2 new characters.. simple process of elimination gives you a huge clue at that point.
I remember when they introduced Dexter's brother as the limb doctor in the hospital room, I immediately figured he was gonna end up being the killer. More then halfway through the season and.. oh look.. a new actor that we're giving a bunch of screen time to right away. Durrr..

That said, the twist of her relationship was unexpected, and executed very well. I do think it's a bit funny that some of the 'his whole family are all killers and just covering for him!' ended up being not too far off. The whole family would have been pretty ridiculous, but it turns out they ARE covering for him in a way.

I'm not yet convinced that there is FULL disclosure between the reporter and her father. Trinity seemed pretty sincere when he told Dexter he had never told anyone about his sister's death and such. Possibly, she found out about a portion of Trinity's killings, but not the reason behind them. I dunno, we'll see how it plays out. But, I think we're due for another plot wrinkle or two regarding the reporter and her father's relationship.

One other thing to consider, it might be a little hard for Dexter to actually kill Trinity at this point without leaving too many clues behind. His family may seem to hate him, but who is to say one of them won't rat out Dexter when he disappears. Having himself as a prime suspect when someone suddenly disappears isn't exactly following Harry's code. So, what if he ends up leaving clues for Deborah to find Trinity or the reporter (and her link to Trinity via DNA) first, then kills the other one. That way, the one 'disappearing' looks like they are just on the run.

[Szlia]

Wild guess: Trinity will die by the hand of the reporter. The reporter will die by the hand of Dexter.

[Arbuste]

The most hilarious thing so far is that Astrocreep needs to have every single scene explained to him. And he still argues.

Originally Posted by Heylel Teomim

His son doesn't know he's a real murderer.

I don't think he does either, but it's the kind of thing you can't be sure of. Double entendre is used a lot in that show.

The ending twist was awesome. But the best scene by far is "Kyle" flipping out. It's good that they show Dexter sometimes making mistakes. And I'd rather he acted like a psycho than like a sloppy idiot.
Nothing about Trinity's relationship with the journalist can be certain so far, but it'd be weird that she killed Lundy with no knowledge of her father's activities. And if she knows he is the Trinity killer, why didn't she tell him about the DNA sweeps? She knew and Trinity apparently didn't.
The only theory I can think of is that Trinity never talked to her. But she is a psycho (because of her upbringing) and a reporter. She investigated her father (as Dexter did) and knows more about him that he'd like. Love/Hate, she doesn't know if she wants to help him or get him caught. For now, she just openly fucks with him. She tries to provoke him and finally got a reaction.

I'm not sure where they're going with Rita's "affair" though. And Masuka needed more awkward time on screen. Do we know what he saw in the trash? I guess I missed it. Although I don't think Dexter would leave anything incriminating in his own trashcan.

[Gwen Rockpounder]

Originally Posted by Arbuste

And Masuka needed more awkward time on screen. Do we know what he saw in the trash? I guess I missed it. Although I don't think Dexter would leave anything incriminating in his own trashcan.

Wasn't it just him looking at his own lava cakes in sorrow that he'd dumped them after seeing the kiss through the door?

[Adere]

Originally Posted by Arbuste

Do we know what he saw in the trash? I guess I missed it. Although I don't think Dexter would leave anything incriminating in his own trashcan.

He just tossed the molten lava cakes he was going bake into the trash after seeing the neighbor kissing Rita. I dont think he saw anything in the trash.

[Erumaron]

Originally Posted by Arbuste

The most hilarious thing so far is that Astrocreep needs to have every single scene explained to him. And he still argues.


I don't think he does either, but it's the kind of thing you can't be sure of. Double entendre is used a lot in that show.

The ending twist was awesome. But the best scene by far is "Kyle" flipping out. It's good that they show Dexter sometimes making mistakes. And I'd rather he acted like a psycho than like a sloppy idiot.
Nothing about Trinity's relationship with the journalist can be certain so far, but it'd be weird that she killed Lundy with no knowledge of her father's activities. And if she knows he is the Trinity killer, why didn't she tell him about the DNA sweeps? She knew and Trinity apparently didn't.
The only theory I can think of is that Trinity never talked to her. But she is a psycho (because of her upbringing) and a reporter. She investigated her father (as Dexter did) and knows more about him that he'd like. Love/Hate, she doesn't know if she wants to help him or get him caught. For now, she just openly fucks with him. She tries to provoke him and finally got a reaction.

I'm not sure where they're going with Rita's "affair" though. And Masuka needed more awkward time on screen. Do we know what he saw in the trash? I guess I missed it. Although I don't think Dexter would leave anything incriminating in his own trashcan.

Masuka was just going over to the neighbors to heat up / cook his dish. The trash was near the window where he saw the kiss go down and he threw away the dish and was just going to leave but Deb begged him not to.

[Arbuste]

Originally Posted by Adere

He just tossed the molten lava cakes he was going bake into the trash after seeing the neighbor kissing Rita. I dont think he saw anything in the trash.

OK, thanks (x3). I spaced out for a minute I guess. Having seen that is going to eat at him. It should be fun.

[McCheese]

But the best scene by far is "Kyle" flipping out.

This. Dexter is the hero of the show and is usually so calm and collected that it's easy to forget he's actually a cold-blooded monster.

When he took off his belt and went after Trinity my reaction was a combination of "Hell yeah!!!" and "Oh shit." This is one of the very few times in the show that Dexter's inner monster has been fully let out, and it is a damn scary sight.

In one way, it shows how similar Dexter is to Trinity, in that he is just as vicious inside. But on the other hand, the fact that Dexter let that part of him out ONLY because he was defending a helpless victim, shows how different he really is from your standard killer.

P.S Harry (i.e Dexter's inner monologue/Dark Passenger) is an asshole.