BSG: Season 4 - Page 106

Arative · 03-20-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rukidding

Was it really the technology that caused the problems? I'd prefer the Lord of Kobol leaving a memo, "Hey, 12 colonies. If you create Cylons, they will someday revolt and try to destroy you."

Creating life that destroys you is a problem. It happened on Kobol, it happened on the 13th colony, it happened in the 12 colonies. At the very end, Head 6 and Baltar seemed to think that it might happen again here on Earth but maybe it won't happen this time.

Arative · 03-20-2009, 09:37 PM

Interesting Q&A

Manatra · 03-20-2009, 09:50 PM

I honestly have to say they couldn't have ended the show much better, and I get what RDM meant by when he said, "It's the characters, stupid."

meStevo · 03-20-2009, 10:32 PM

I don't care enough to go back and check, but it seemed like they added the extra 11 minutes to add about 7 more in commercials.

This was better the 2nd run through, if you have a chance, or a loved one who hasn't seen it yet to watch it with (wife will be sniffly for an hour i bet), do watch it again.

Arative · 03-20-2009, 10:42 PM

Watcher interview, always worth a read

Phoenix · 03-20-2009, 11:23 PM

I think the problem is the fact that 8 of the past 10 episodes where complete filler with no action or anything going on. That and the fact they never properly planned this thing out. I mean, wasnt their dozens and dozens of Cylon baseships out there? What happened to them? What happend to Kera being the "harrold of the apocalypse"? What happened to Hera being the savior of the cylons and humans?

Too many questions left unanswered for my taste. I know they where shooting for closure on the characters themselves instead of the story, but even there they had some blank spots.

Agraza · 03-20-2009, 11:30 PM

The ending was weak. The firefight was great, but the lack of answers on several topics was a flat cop-out. They can scream characters at the top of their lungs, but they left a lot of loose ends about their glorious characters. And I've never liked the religious tie in, ever. It never means anything other than to provide for unexplained miracles steering the crew in the right direction. The sci fi genre doesn't need religion coming in and saying magic is OK.

The whole episode with Starbuck playing the piano was fantastic. They could have taken that somewhere, but they let it fizzle. It's a pointless speedbump in the story. They didn't want to answer the many questions revolving the show and think being mysterious about it looks good. They're called plot holes, and they inhabit bad stories. I think they put a dent in their legacy with this syrupy goodness of a prolonged happy ending.

Nebuchadnezzar · 03-20-2009, 11:32 PM

Urgh. Kara disappearing, just urgh. Wasn't really a fan of the finale, a lot of it was very stilted stuff and the only real moment that I "gave a shit" was when Baltar mentioned he knows about farming.

Araxen · 03-20-2009, 11:38 PM

How the fuck did they know the name of the sun when they haven't even named earth yet. They should have referenced it as a star. /boggle

The last 40 minutes dragged for me. Rest of the episode was phenomenal. Tying everything up felt like a Family Guy episode where they just come up with something stupid to end the episode in 2 minutes they have left. Hai Guys! It's all cause of God that this shit happened! Bye!

Ionsniper · 03-20-2009, 11:47 PM

Kara ending was weak.

Cavil offing himself was weak and pointless and a complete 180 on his charachter.

While the firefight and Galactica kicking ass and taking names was great, it felt like it was the only part that did. Everything else felt so rushed and left so many loose ends to tie up that it was "ok" but it could have been great.

Snugglebear · 03-20-2009, 11:47 PM

The whole mitochondrial eve thing requires that the woman have two daughters and the line survive. So maybe the other 38,000 people (half of whom are women, possibly?) didn't have lines that survived because eventually their daughters died? Over 150,000 years it is possible. I often wonder what beautiful variations on the human race died out during harsh times by random chance, leaving us with the current variety of blacks, crackers, and chinks.

I still cannot wrap my head around it. Hey, we just survived the big battle and a 4 year journey looking for a suitable planet... let's give up hot showers and medicine and go on a permanent camping trip and fuck some cavemen? I've never been on a spaceship for an extended period of time, but I don't think the sudden influx of fresh air and sunshine would make me go hippie in a snap.

Araxen · 03-20-2009, 11:50 PM

Add to the fact there's an entire set of disease they aren't immune too. That 38,000 would dwindle to almost nothing very quickly.

ex-genj · 03-20-2009, 11:58 PM

surely -internets incoming for me but one of the worst collapses of a season of a television show I've ever seen. The best analogy I can think of is this season 4 of a show felt like it was season 10. Horrible season, horrible conclusion to a show I enjoyed until now. The Kara "ending" was insultingly bad.

Menion · 03-21-2009, 12:08 AM

So, 150,000 years later they find Hera's bones but nobody in those 150k years found 1 Raptor, Viper or shuttle that they used to land on the planet?

Tabris · 03-21-2009, 12:16 AM

As I said earlier: Anyone who liked this ending is retarded. You have bad taste. You are attempting to deceive yourself. This shit was bad.

03-20-2009, 11:23 PM	#1581 (permalink)
Phoenix AVATARD Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: you cant keep me down Posts: 6,435 -139 Internets	I think the problem is the fact that 8 of the past 10 episodes where complete filler with no action or anything going on. That and the fact they never properly planned this thing out. I mean, wasnt their dozens and dozens of Cylon baseships out there? What happened to them? What happend to Kera being the "harrold of the apocalypse"? What happened to Hera being the savior of the cylons and humans? Too many questions left unanswered for my taste. I know they where shooting for closure on the characters themselves instead of the story, but even there they had some blank spots. __________________

03-20-2009, 11:30 PM	#1582 (permalink)
Agraza Issh good, no? Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,435	The ending was weak. The firefight was great, but the lack of answers on several topics was a flat cop-out. They can scream characters at the top of their lungs, but they left a lot of loose ends about their glorious characters. And I've never liked the religious tie in, ever. It never means anything other than to provide for unexplained miracles steering the crew in the right direction. The sci fi genre doesn't need religion coming in and saying magic is OK. The whole episode with Starbuck playing the piano was fantastic. They could have taken that somewhere, but they let it fizzle. It's a pointless speedbump in the story. They didn't want to answer the many questions revolving the show and think being mysterious about it looks good. They're called plot holes, and they inhabit bad stories. I think they put a dent in their legacy with this syrupy goodness of a prolonged happy ending. __________________ Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

03-20-2009, 11:32 PM	#1583 (permalink)
Nebuchadnezzar Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,714 +12 Internets	Urgh. Kara disappearing, just urgh. Wasn't really a fan of the finale, a lot of it was very stilted stuff and the only real moment that I "gave a shit" was when Baltar mentioned he knows about farming. __________________ I eat grass like an ox and shat like a fox.

03-20-2009, 11:38 PM	#1584 (permalink)
Araxen A Bearded Gnome Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 6,697	How the fuck did they know the name of the sun when they haven't even named earth yet. They should have referenced it as a star. /boggle The last 40 minutes dragged for me. Rest of the episode was phenomenal. Tying everything up felt like a Family Guy episode where they just come up with something stupid to end the episode in 2 minutes they have left. Hai Guys! It's all cause of God that this shit happened! Bye! __________________ PSN: Araxen - Gamertag: Araxen II Currently Playing: Eve - Talendor Vsevius(Main), Beth O(Salvage Alt)) http://www.twitter.com/araxen Last edited by Araxen; 03-20-2009 at 11:42 PM..

03-20-2009, 11:47 PM	#1585 (permalink)
Ionsniper Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,138 -13 Internets	Kara ending was weak. Cavil offing himself was weak and pointless and a complete 180 on his charachter. While the firefight and Galactica kicking ass and taking names was great, it felt like it was the only part that did. Everything else felt so rushed and left so many loose ends to tie up that it was "ok" but it could have been great. __________________ "I demand a REAL Starcraft MMO!" "but how do we-?" "I'm not the how guy! I pay you to be the how guy!"

03-20-2009, 09:37 PM	#1577 (permalink)
Arative Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MO Posts: 951 +7 Internets	Interesting Q&A

03-20-2009, 09:50 PM	#1578 (permalink)
Manatra Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 647	I honestly have to say they couldn't have ended the show much better, and I get what RDM meant by when he said, "It's the characters, stupid."

03-20-2009, 10:32 PM	#1579 (permalink)
meStevo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,914 +3 Internets	I don't care enough to go back and check, but it seemed like they added the extra 11 minutes to add about 7 more in commercials. This was better the 2nd run through, if you have a chance, or a loved one who hasn't seen it yet to watch it with (wife will be sniffly for an hour i bet), do watch it again.

03-20-2009, 10:42 PM	#1580 (permalink)
Arative Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: MO Posts: 951 +7 Internets	Watcher interview, always worth a read

03-20-2009, 11:47 PM	#1586 (permalink)
Snugglebear Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,493 -34 Internets	The whole mitochondrial eve thing requires that the woman have two daughters and the line survive. So maybe the other 38,000 people (half of whom are women, possibly?) didn't have lines that survived because eventually their daughters died? Over 150,000 years it is possible. I often wonder what beautiful variations on the human race died out during harsh times by random chance, leaving us with the current variety of blacks, crackers, and chinks. I still cannot wrap my head around it. Hey, we just survived the big battle and a 4 year journey looking for a suitable planet... let's give up hot showers and medicine and go on a permanent camping trip and fuck some cavemen? I've never been on a spaceship for an extended period of time, but I don't think the sudden influx of fresh air and sunshine would make me go hippie in a snap.

03-20-2009, 11:50 PM	#1587 (permalink)
Araxen A Bearded Gnome Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 6,697	Add to the fact there's an entire set of disease they aren't immune too. That 38,000 would dwindle to almost nothing very quickly. __________________ PSN: Araxen - Gamertag: Araxen II Currently Playing: Eve - Talendor Vsevius(Main), Beth O(Salvage Alt)) http://www.twitter.com/araxen

03-20-2009, 11:58 PM	#1588 (permalink)
ex-genj The pelé of anal Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,096 -26 Internets	surely -internets incoming for me but one of the worst collapses of a season of a television show I've ever seen. The best analogy I can think of is this season 4 of a show felt like it was season 10. Horrible season, horrible conclusion to a show I enjoyed until now. The Kara "ending" was insultingly bad.

03-21-2009, 12:08 AM	#1589 (permalink)
Menion Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 800	So, 150,000 years later they find Hera's bones but nobody in those 150k years found 1 Raptor, Viper or shuttle that they used to land on the planet?

03-21-2009, 12:16 AM	#1590 (permalink)
Tabris Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,672 -23 Internets	As I said earlier: Anyone who liked this ending is retarded. You have bad taste. You are attempting to deceive yourself. This shit was bad.

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