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Old 05-09-2008, 02:39 PM   #196 (permalink)
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The more I think about it, how many times have I gone along with something plain ass stupid just to make my wife not pissed at me. I mean really that's all he did. I'm not saying I would have given MY idol, but 3 more days with 3 other women who probably smell to coochy-ra-ra heaven who are all stabbing me with eye lasers... not something I would want to go though...

... but then there's that whole million dollars thing... and I'd go though a lot for a million... so bring on the pissed women, smell and all
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:02 PM   #197 (permalink)
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haha fucking great episode.
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Old 05-11-2008, 01:01 AM   #198 (permalink)
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I'm still rooting for my girl Cirie, but I would be just as pleased to see Amanda win at this point. I never liked Parvati, and I enjoy Natalie for entertainment value, just not for a.. winner. It all depends on the upcoming challenge. I was surprised to see Cirie running second in the last immunity challenge (compared to Amanda). So maybe she does have a chance in a physical challenge to be crowned with the necklace.

Thinking about Erik's jury vote, I thought he'd just pick names out of a hat since they all screwed him over, but I then realized that Amanda and Parvati got away blood-free. Cirie's plan to have them flame him at tribal was a must, but it also looks bad on Nat & Cirie both.

James will no doubt vote for Amanda, no matter what. Ozzie might too
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:27 AM   #199 (permalink)
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DId you guys know that yauman was a SA goon btw
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:44 AM   #200 (permalink)
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I AM SHOCKED THAT PARV WON!!! Never in a million years did I think she would win. I thought Amanda had it locked up. Amanda just sucks in the finals. She got owned by Todd and it seemed like Parv owned her this time, espcially since Ozzy and James's votes were locks. At one point, 4-3 for parv with 1 vote left, I thought it would be a tie, cause Parv was no way gonna win but she won! BTW, what would have happened if it was a tie? They split $1 mill? Revote? I am very curious.

Few things, I liked the twist where they thought it would be a final 3 and it wasn't. hehe threw em for a loop.

It also seemed that a lot of the girls in Survivor always seem to put on a bunch of weight at the reunion show, and I know that they lose tons of weight playing Survivor but they definitely had more weight than when they started. Amanda looked so hot on the show but at the reunion she didn't look that great. All of the girls except parv seemed to put on a few extre pounts from their starting weight, which is definitely from messing up your metobalism anf gorging on foods that you missed while playing the game. The men seemed to be the same basically.


It would have been interesting to see Cirie in the finals I wanted to see her strats and everything come out. Too bad. She just sucks at challenges, I don't think she has ever won. The final 3 challenge was like her first time ever winning second place I think lol.



Grats for James winning MVP/Fan favorite. I knew he would win it he has the best lines even when he is on the jury.



Great season I can't wait for the next one in Africa and I am applying again I fucking pray that I finally get picked. Sucks that like 10 million people apply and they pick 8 guys and 8 girls.
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:34 AM   #201 (permalink)
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I'm pretty surprised Parv won as well. Apparently Natalie wants to fuck her, so she had that vote locked up and then Alexis by association. Cirie's vote definitely went to Parv, the second poor Amanda was forced to pick someone to go to the final two with her. Oddly enough, winning immunity ended up hurting Amanda in that regard.

Was an awesome season. It will be hard to top.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:46 AM   #202 (permalink)
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I watched it again. Amanda really fucked up at the end. She didn't take cradit for any power plays, instead she was all emo and used her sad pouty look. If she had let everyone know how many strat moves she made and explained she would have gotten the votes. Instead she made Parv look like the real strat player, and she even said it to Cirie in her answer to Cirie.

PS: The Ozzy I love you thing seemed so lame. Rob and Amanda seemed 100x more genuine. I think Ozzy was worried that he was being played by Amanda and was afraid to put it out there.
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:15 AM   #203 (permalink)
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Yeah, Amanda really fucked up with her answer to Cirie. She basically said, "Give Parv the million! She made all the moves!"
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Old 05-12-2008, 10:22 AM   #204 (permalink)
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Prior to her play with the HII, Amanda didn't really make many moves. I think Amanda doesn't mind being mean, but she can't stand people thinking she's mean, which is why she goes all blubbery when it comes time to own those moves.

Was Natalie trying to ask Parv if she is bisexual?

What in the hell was Erik talking about? He stood up there and bitched at Amanda and then voted for her anyway.

I agree the Ozzy thing was pretty lame. I can see how that would mess with your head though if you really fell for somebody in that environment because you can never know for sure if they were playing you or not. Of course that's always sort of true when you're dealing with women .

I thought both Parv and Amanda looked like they had gained about 20 lbs. Can't really blame them though, if I spent a month starving to death you better believe I would be pigging out for a while when I got back. I wonder how long it was between the final TC and the reunion show.

Before watching last night I would have said that Cerie was the most strategic one because she was behind the Ozzie blindside even though Parv sort of got credit for it, and she was the brains behind the Erik thing too even if Nat and Amanda were the ones that pulled it off. Thinking about it now though, I think Parvati really put on a clinic on how to play the social game in Survivor. That was an excellent point that came up in the final TC that she actually brought together a superalliance, made up of 2 mini alliances, both of which were more loyal to her than the other half of the alliance. How could you be in a better position than that? Not only was she insulated from elimination, she had multiple layers of insulation that she could bring together or play against one another as she needed to. On top of that, she had the early couple alliance and got a lot of mileage out of that as well. She was not on the chopping block at any point in the show and really the only thing that hurt her was betraying James and Ozzie. That cost her their votes but not really any others I don't think. I think 90% of the time at the final TC it's better to be seen as the power player than the nice one. I wouldn't want to be friends with Parvati, but I think that she owned this game start to finish and if I was on the jury she would have gotten my vote.

I would like to know if she purposely lost that final immunity challenge because she thought either of the other two that won it would bring her and then she wouldn't have to be in the position of choosing one and probably losing the other's vote. Probably not but if she did then I am definitely afraid of her and hoping she never finds a reason to want to manipulate me hehe.
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Old 05-12-2008, 11:17 AM   #205 (permalink)
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I'm so disappointed that Amanda didn't win.

She lost it when she took Parvarti though. She was everyone's friend, and the people she'd really pissed off (Ozzie, James) were already locks for Amanda.

So so disappointed.
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:39 PM   #206 (permalink)
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Pretty disgusted that Amanda didn't win, Parv definitely shouldn't have.
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:52 PM   #207 (permalink)
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I'm so disappointed that Amanda didn't win.

She lost it when she took Parvarti though. She was everyone's friend, and the people she'd really pissed off (Ozzie, James) were already locks for Amanda.

So so disappointed.
I dunno, I think at the time, Parv looked like the better choice.

Both Parv and Cirie played pretty strong strategic games, but Parv was more visibly cutthroat, while Cirie was able to pass off to others most of the ill will her moves should have generated. Either one would have been tough for Amanda to beat on the pure strategic value of their games, so all she could really do was hope that people would vote with their emotions and keep their hate on for Parv.

That said, Amanda just sucked at the Final Jury. She could easily have won IMO, if she'd taken more credit for playing the game hard (unlike some, I thought she played a pretty good game overall), instead of playing the "I tried to be honest and loyal, boohoo I'm sorry for everything I did" card. Most jury members, even those who got backstabbed, tend to vote in the final TC with their heads, not their hearts. But, same as last season, Parv talked circles around her, just like Todd did. Cirie would likely have done the same.

Cirie vs Parv in the final two would have been Cirie, hands down IMO. It would be interesting to know who she'd have taken with her if Cirie had won the final immunity.
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Old 05-13-2008, 01:36 AM   #208 (permalink)
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Parvati really put on a clinic on how to play the social game in Survivor. She brought together a superalliance, made up of 2 mini alliances, both of which were more loyal to her than the other half of the alliance. How could you be in a better position than that? Not only was she insulated from elimination, she had multiple layers of insulation that she could bring together or play against one another as she needed to. On top of that, she had the early couple alliance and got a lot of mileage out of that as well. She was not on the chopping block at any point in the show and really the only thing that hurt her was betraying James and Ozzie. That cost her their votes but not really any others I don't think. I think 90% of the time at the final TC it's better to be seen as the power player than the nice one. I wouldn't want to be friends with Parvati, but I think that she owned this game start to finish and if I was on the jury she would have gotten my vote.

That is exactly why Parvarti won the game in a nutshell. Great points.


Sometimes you get killed for playing both sides of the fence but Parv worked it to perfection if you think about it her girl power strat was the strat that brought the girls to the end. While it looked like Amanda was in control she was only in the position because of Parv and her bringing in Nat and Alexis. If Parv had stayed with just James, Ozzy and Amanda there is no way she would have won this game. Looking back on it Parv played the game to perfection and once you look back on it all the pieces of the puzzle fit together perfectly. Well played Parv.
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Old 05-13-2008, 07:42 AM   #209 (permalink)
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Bah I thought Amanda would be a lock to win if she got into the finals, but as we've seen this season, anything can happen in survivor. Thought maybe people would have been more pissed about the blindsides that Parv and Cirie pretty much orchestrated.

Have to give credit to Parv though for getting into the couples alliance from day one, and then forming the girls alliance which Cirie sorta just fell into.

Cirie did play a good game and did a lot of good strategic moves, but she tried flying under radar as much as possible and letting others make themselves more visible for the bad stuff, like Parv.

Anyways, was a good season overall, actually managed to watch the season longer than usual again. Hopefully there's another fans vs favorites and the new fans actually learn a damn lesson or two from this season..... well then again hopefully not, would be more entertaining seeing more dummies get outsmarted out there lol.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:53 PM   #210 (permalink)
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You all should have known Cirie and Amanda weren't going to win... seeing as they were the two I fucking wanted to.

That's how my reality TV life is. Janelle third place in Big Brother 6 & All-Stars, Rupert's losses in Pearl Islands and All-Stars, Jameka in Big Brother 7, the list goes on... lord.
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