NBC bitchslapped by Apple/iTunes - Page 2

Arbitrary · 09-01-2007, 09:08 AM

1.99 for an hour long episode of something seems reasonable. 4.99 is ridiculous.

Really, fuck 49.99 seasons of television shows. I don't need all that pretty packaging and bullshit. Just give me the show without commercials and pass the savings on.

Greedy fucks.

Twobit Whore · 09-01-2007, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Arbitrary

1.99 for an hour long episode of something seems reasonable. 4.99 is ridiculous.

Really, fuck 49.99 seasons of television shows. I don't need all that pretty packaging and bullshit. Just give me the show without commercials and pass the savings on.

Greedy fucks.

No shit. 50 bucks for a season of shows with crappy encoding and tiny resolutions?

You can buy a DVD of a season of shows for half that.

Soygen · 09-01-2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by K`Lag

I already pay for episodes :P pay giganews $25 a month and split the cost with a friend. Maxes out my current 8mpbs connection (soon to be 24mpbs but it will max that out too). Download episodes in 6-7 minutes around 3-5 hours after they aired.

Do you have a max you can d/l per month at 25 bucks?

Soriak · 09-01-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Soygen

Do you have a max you can d/l per month at 25 bucks?

No, that's for the unlimited account. It's actually pretty pricey due to the longer retention.

Newshosting is $15/month for unlimited downloading, but you're limited to 8 simultaneous connections. You get about 2.5mbit per connection, so you should max out a 20mbit line with it.

K`Lag · 09-01-2007, 11:22 AM

Yeah well I pay 12.5$ cos i share it and giganews retention is insane - its like having a torrent that got posted 150+ days ago with 200 seeders still. I've tried it at a uni computer cluster and was downloading around 3.3megabytes/sec with only 4 connections.

Plus Giganews gives you a free software license for Newsleecher - the best newsgroup software without a doubt (dunno if they still do though)

Kolle · 09-01-2007, 11:27 AM

usenet is nice. new users beware there's some fucked up shit on usenet and i don't mean porn related.

Soriak · 09-01-2007, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolle

usenet is nice. new users beware there's some fucked up shit on usenet and i don't mean porn related.

I'm intrigued... care to elaborate?

Kildace · 09-01-2007, 02:43 PM

Eh, if Hulu pricing is $4.99 / episode it's going to fail miserably, especially if the shows on the front page are an exhaustive list of what will be available.

Soygen · 09-01-2007, 05:37 PM

Soriak/K'Lag,

Do you know whether or not those two usenet services offer more groups, longer lasting posts, etc than the other? I'm looking to get a newsgroup service, but not sure which to go with.

Gwen Rockpounder · 09-01-2007, 10:50 PM

I've used Giganews for a couple of years now, the retention has always been huge compared to other services and just keeps getting longer. Its pricier than most other usenet providers but damn, if you suddenly get the urge to checkout "Random_FilmOrTVEpisode" your chances of finding it are huge. For example, someone recommended Eureka to me. I check on newzbin and find someone had posted the early season 1 episodes 60 days or so ago, 20 minutes later I'm watching episode 1 and loving it.

If you are going to start using usenet, check out Newzbin - Usenet Search for pennies a week you can get a file which will be autoloaded into newsbin or newsleecher and get all the posts that make up what you are looking for. Saves downloading 8zillion headers to find what you are looking for.

Shilling over, although I pay them, they dont pay me, doh!

Soriak · 09-02-2007, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Soygen

Soriak/K'Lag,

Do you know whether or not those two usenet services offer more groups, longer lasting posts, etc than the other? I'm looking to get a newsgroup service, but not sure which to go with.

The groups and the speed are the same and they're both extremely reliable. The difference is the retention. (ie how long posts are available)

The $15 Newshosting account is 45 days, the $20 account 70 days. Though I can download 70-80 day old files on my $15 account just fine...

Giganews is an insane 200 days. They also currently have a "Diamond" offer for $20, which is quite attractive. If I would download more than just recently released things, I'd go for that actually.

edit: nm on the diamond offer - it goes to $30 after the first month. Don't think SSL encryption is needed just yet as ISPs themselves don't seem to care what you DL.

K`Lag · 09-02-2007, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Soygen

Soriak/K'Lag,

Do you know whether or not those two usenet services offer more groups, longer lasting posts, etc than the other? I'm looking to get a newsgroup service, but not sure which to go with.

I used to use Astraweb which was nice for 15$ unlimited/month but had pretty shitty retention anything over 25 days old was usually too corrupt to bother downloading. With Giganews the retention was so good that even Newzbin (the indexing site in the post above) had to change its database to keep entries up to 200 days, just because recently Giganews updated its retention to 200 days. So yeah in April I finally decided to watch Sopranos from Season 1 to Season 6. Most of the posts were like 2-3 months old but I downloaded them all (around 45 gb) in around a week of just downloading a season a day (took me 4 hours to download a season or so) with no problems due to Giganews retention. Newzbin also has a porn subsidiary at www.newzxxx.com uses the same username/pass and credits as a normal newzbin account. Beware though the sheer volume of porn on there is unhealthy

Soriak · 09-02-2007, 09:01 AM

You can also just download the headers from alt.binaries.ijsklontje - more porn than you could ever watch. Not that I'd know first hand

Akileese · 09-02-2007, 08:40 PM

I will say this, with all the TV shows I watch/collect now, my weekly downloads are ballooning at quite a fast rate. It's up to about 8 or 9 with 3 on Sunday alone.

I wouldn't have any gripe about paying if the encode was good, but when I can get a 250 meg HDTV encode of a House episode, why should I pay for something that is ridiculously inferior in quality?

prescient63 · 09-02-2007, 11:06 PM

I have a serious question. WTF is it with germans and dubbing their porn? I really can't understand that. Granted it's all old stuff but still did anyone really think it made it better?

09-01-2007, 11:22 AM	#20 (permalink)
K`Lag Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: U.K Posts: 455	Yeah well I pay 12.5$ cos i share it and giganews retention is insane - its like having a torrent that got posted 150+ days ago with 200 seeders still. I've tried it at a uni computer cluster and was downloading around 3.3megabytes/sec with only 4 connections. Plus Giganews gives you a free software license for Newsleecher - the best newsgroup software without a doubt (dunno if they still do though) Last edited by K`Lag : 09-01-2007 at 05:08 PM.

09-01-2007, 10:50 PM	#25 (permalink)
Gwen Rockpounder Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ing-Ger-Land! Posts: 409 +4 Internets	I've used Giganews for a couple of years now, the retention has always been huge compared to other services and just keeps getting longer. Its pricier than most other usenet providers but damn, if you suddenly get the urge to checkout "Random_FilmOrTVEpisode" your chances of finding it are huge. For example, someone recommended Eureka to me. I check on newzbin and find someone had posted the early season 1 episodes 60 days or so ago, 20 minutes later I'm watching episode 1 and loving it. If you are going to start using usenet, check out Newzbin - Usenet Search for pennies a week you can get a file which will be autoloaded into newsbin or newsleecher and get all the posts that make up what you are looking for. Saves downloading 8zillion headers to find what you are looking for. Shilling over, although I pay them, they dont pay me, doh! __________________ General online ADD sufferer >.<

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09-01-2007, 11:27 AM	#21 (permalink)
Kolle Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 4,879 -25 Internets	usenet is nice. new users beware there's some fucked up shit on usenet and i don't mean porn related.

09-01-2007, 02:43 PM	#23 (permalink)
Kildace Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Paris Posts: 1,077 +0 Internets	Eh, if Hulu pricing is $4.99 / episode it's going to fail miserably, especially if the shows on the front page are an exhaustive list of what will be available.

09-01-2007, 05:37 PM	#24 (permalink)
Soygen 100% Pure Soy Monk Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 6,242 +23 Internets	Soriak/K'Lag, Do you know whether or not those two usenet services offer more groups, longer lasting posts, etc than the other? I'm looking to get a newsgroup service, but not sure which to go with.

09-02-2007, 09:01 AM	#28 (permalink)
Soriak Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 4,769 +29 Internets	You can also just download the headers from alt.binaries.ijsklontje - more porn than you could ever watch. Not that I'd know first hand

09-02-2007, 11:06 PM	#30 (permalink)
prescient63 You can't blame women for what they do wrong in the same way that you can't blame a dog for what it does wrong. Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,407 -6 Internets	I have a serious question. WTF is it with germans and dubbing their porn? I really can't understand that. Granted it's all old stuff but still did anyone really think it made it better?