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Old 10-24-2005, 04:03 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Did anyone actually see all the X-Files episodes? I got completely lost in them once Mulder wasn't in the series anymore. I know Scully had a child and all, but really... damn. I mean, if we're to stick to the general storyline involving both Mulder and Scully and not all of the (great) "filler" episodes with a random house filled with an incestous family. Stuff with The Cancer man, etc.
Actually I stopped watching X-Files shortly after Mulder disappeared from the show, and only recently accidently caught the very final episode of the series..

I was completely confused and lost for most of the episode. Mulder was back (obviously) and he had a kid with Scully, and they were an actual couple. Also, Dagget had gone from being a totally anal skeptic to believing in UFOs and aliens, and Cancer Man had become some post-Cancer (complete with hole in throat to put the smokes into) long-haired Hippie hiding in some Native American caves somewhere in the desert.

Oh also, Mulder and Scully (and Cancer Man) were being chased constantly by "Super Soldiers" who were really hybrids of aliens and humans but that were apparently attracted / allergic to a very rare ore that was mostly found in the region of these caves where Cancer Man was hiding.


Anyway, sometime before my brain snapped shut to protect me from permanent brain damage, I noticed that Cancer Man was hit in the face by a helicopter rocket...



About the show itself, I always prefered the "stand-alone" episodes a lot more than the "conspiracy" episodes.. I mean don't get me wrong, some of the former episodes sucked massive ammounts of ass and some of the conspiracy ones were pretty great, but after a few seasons of the same pattern :

1 - Mulder investigates something totally unrelated to FBI
2 - Scully says he shouldn't.
3 - Mudler finds undoubtable evidence that aliens exist.
4 - Scully doesn't see the evidence.
5 - Cancer Man deletes evidence.
6 - Go back to 1.

Well, it just got old after a few seasons.. The "movies" (not Fight the Future, but the "special episodes".. Tooms, Tunguska, Tempus Fugit, etc...) were mostly good.. though Dreamland was probably the best of all.. very funny too.

I think the first X-Files episode I ever saw was the one where they investigate about a pyromaniac, and the guy can actually create fire out of thin air (much like Pyro from X-Men).. that episode was really pretty badass and the psycho was totally evil. Good episode.

I think they should have made two separate shows of X-Files... One completely about the conspiracy... and the other consisting in many stand-alone investigations. Now THAT would have been a lot more pleasant to watch...
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Old 10-24-2005, 04:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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"Miami Vice" is number one new show.
Lol.

^^^I thought Pyro could only manipulate fire not create it, at least from the movie/Xmen Legends 1n2.

I'd have to say I don't watch many TV series but if you are goin for all types I'd throw Fastlane in there too.
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Old 10-24-2005, 04:33 PM   #33 (permalink)
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^^^I thought Pyro could only manipulate fire not create it, at least from the movie/Xmen Legends 1n2.
Yar you're correct, Pyro can only manipulate fire, and so does the fellow psycho in this episode... but I really refered to Pyro mostly for the kind of tricks he does with fire.. (leaps, rebounds, etc ...)
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Old 10-24-2005, 05:53 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Battle Star Galactica..

that's all I really watch.. and they're damn good imo.
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:44 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Oh, and the Cancer Man is inspiring.
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:00 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Millennium Season 2 , best show ever made for TV (the one written by Morgan & Wong).

Then :
Oz
Prison Break
24
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***Edit : Forgot Nip/Tuck , I started watching it, and now I want more >_<

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Old 10-25-2005, 05:58 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Oh, I remember that episode with the Cancer Man in the caves in the deserts.

But yeah, I agree - I also enjoyed the episodes which didn't involve conspiracy and the Earth being taken over by aliens a lot more. One of my first episodes, or atleast one that won't let go - is an episode where they're investigating some deaths, which I think is caused by a disease. When the human victim dies, a "huge" spike (like a coral reef) on like 25 centimeters would toss out from the human being's throat. Was very scary.
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:01 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I know you mentioned it, but it isn't said enough: last 3 seasons of DS9 are the best seasons of any TV show, not just star trek. Someone try to find episodes that even compare to "In the Pale Moonlight" or "The Siege of AR-558". Quality fucking TV. It baffles me even to this day why they haven't made a DS9 movie. Every trekkie loved the series(except this one idiotic couple I met that liked Voyager...wtf?). They could give the actors ludicrous amounts of money and the studio would still make tons of profit. It's not like they're busy...well, maybe Colm Meaney is sorta busy.
I thoroughly enjoyed both series. The Voyager episode with Fear was pure money, and shit...I don't think there has EVER been a bad DS9.
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:30 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Oh, I remember that episode with the Cancer Man in the caves in the deserts.

But yeah, I agree - I also enjoyed the episodes which didn't involve conspiracy and the Earth being taken over by aliens a lot more. One of my first episodes, or atleast one that won't let go - is an episode where they're investigating some deaths, which I think is caused by a disease. When the human victim dies, a "huge" spike (like a coral reef) on like 25 centimeters would toss out from the human being's throat. Was very scary.
Yes, that was some sort of huge fungus that would pierce from their throats to release spores and infest more hosts..

I believe the episode was called "Spores", actually.


What sucks though is that the whole "Conspiracy X-Files" had quite a great and interesting story, but it was so fragmented and so dragged out that it lost all its meaning along the line..

Before it turned into utter crap near the ending, the main plot was that Earth had been under close monitoring for ages by an alien species that we nickname "The Grays" who were planning to take over our planet through the use of the Black Oil, which is in fact the blood of these Grays and can become sentient and contaminate hosts to take them over.

But there was another alien species that was at war with the Grays, and these rebels (some of which could shape-shift, such as the reccurent assassin in the earlier seasons) had 'sealed' their eyes, nostrils and mouths so they could not be infected by the Black Oil (which makes little sense in any case since the Black Oil is clearly seen piercing through solid matter such as leather boots, glass and obviously human skin in many episodes..)..

All along the series, Cancer Man and his 'friends' dealt with the Grays, while attempting in secret to engineer a vaccine to the Black Oil, by creating hybrids of Grays and Humans. That Council came to use genetically-engineered bees to extract a certain mollecule from genetically-engineered corn and use the thus created mix to infect Humans with their stinger, thus seeding the Human with the genes that would create a Gray-Human hybrid in their innards (later to burst out in a most brutal and unpleasant fashion).

That was more or less the basics of the story, and it was told once.. then twice.. then thrice.. until most everyone lost interest and not even the characters seemed to care one way or another whether they'd survive the Black Oil or not..

Thus died a very good show.
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Old 10-25-2005, 09:38 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I thoroughly enjoyed both series. The Voyager episode with Fear was pure money, and shit...I don't think there has EVER been a bad DS9.
Agreed, Deep Space 9 was seriously awesome. Avery Brooks is ranking up there right next to Picard in my book..

I never really liked Voyager, but I do like Enterprise, though it's mostly because there's Scott Bakula in it.. but I don't really regard Enterprise as a Star Trek.. It's just a good sci-fi show with Star Trek references tossed in..
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Yeah, now that you recap the story it makes sense. Although I was never under the impression that The Grays were fighting other species. But I did get lost in all the superhumans, the one who could change appeareance and so on.
I understood that they'd been monitoring the Earth for quite a while and all the stuff with Mulder's sister or somewhat and even Scully's abduction (I suppose) was of their doing. I also remember an episode where Scully and Mulder got onto a corn field and there's these huge human made white "cubes" where all the bees you describe were. Oh, very interesting indeed.

But as you say, they dragged the story out far too much. In the end you would either lose interest or simply not just get it all. What I did like the most about the conspiracy stories were always wether the cancer man was really good, fighting for humanity and trying to cheat the aliens, same with Skinner, etc. etc.

Anyway, thanks.
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:38 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Agreed, Deep Space 9 was seriously awesome. Avery Brooks is ranking up there right next to Picard in my book..

I never really liked Voyager, but I do like Enterprise, though it's mostly because there's Scott Bakula in it.. but I don't really regard Enterprise as a Star Trek.. It's just a good sci-fi show with Star Trek references tossed in..
None of the people in my family were Star Trek fans at all but my mom and I could sit there and watch DS9 every time it came out. It was less of the usual crap that Star Trek put out and much more story driver and a bit more subtle and dark.
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