Lost....

[Ninajrr]

Not sure how much time passed, was guessing based on Jack's surgery, but either way shouldn't the helicopter, which left right after but presumably was much faster that the corpse, have gotten to the island first?

Just strange, don't think it was necessarily well thought out.

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by Dantre

Does being dead necessarily entail evil?

well what are these dead people trying to do? get people to go back to the island and do what? procreate? they all die cept for claire. This is sort of like the book needful things, they are getting their dreams made true but in the end they get fucked over and realize they sold their souls for nothing.

[ArkturusMaximus]

Originally Posted by Ninajrr

Not sure how much time passed, was guessing based on Jack's surgery, but either way shouldn't the helicopter, which left right after but presumably was much faster that the corpse, have gotten to the island first?

Just strange, don't think it was necessarily well thought out.

Because the helicopter came in on the correct bearing. Hard to think that the corpse did as well.

[Ninajrr]

I see.

So... The rocket came in on an incorrect bearing (presumably) and ended up traveling forward in time. The corpse came in on an incorrect bearing (presumably) and ended up being traveling backward in time.

That said, would it be accurate to assume the Losties and Desmond came to the island on the incorrect bearing and hence if they left on the correct bearing would create either an overlap of dual existence or an underlap of nonexistence, for a short period of time, thereby making their age, relative to the age of the world they live in and their birth certificates, incompatible?

All too weird. I hope it gets explained and, more importantly, used as a plot device.

[Tbird]

This episode seemed like a transition from old to new. I enjoyed the scene where Ben Linus and Hurley are sharing a candy bar on the log bench while waiting for Locke outside the cabin. It showed how Ben isn't really the bad guy anymore. Or how Ben said that his time as the "chosen one" are over and now its time for Locke's time to start.

Kate's teeth are starting to bother me though, get her some braces.

Also I want to see more Lt Daniels!

[Ninajrr]

I wouldn't write Ben off just yet. Hes known for acting like he isn't in control when he really is.

[Cantatus]

Originally Posted by Ninajrr

I see.

So... The rocket came in on an incorrect bearing (presumably) and ended up traveling forward in time. The corpse came in on an incorrect bearing (presumably) and ended up being traveling backward in time.

That said, would it be accurate to assume the Losties and Desmond came to the island on the incorrect bearing and hence if they left on the correct bearing would create either an overlap of dual existence or an underlap of nonexistence, for a short period of time, thereby making their age, relative to the age of the world they live in and their birth certificates, incompatible?

All too weird. I hope it gets explained and, more importantly, used as a plot device.

Maybe that explains why Desmond became unhinged while Sayid and the pilot (and presumably Michael) didn't. Perhaps Desmond didn't use the correct bearing to reach the island, but flight 815 and the helicopter did?

[Kylax]

i think that the pilot of the plane was in the loop of widmore. Ludipis was supposed to fly that plane and now because of the pilot being killed, more drastic measures have been taken to get the island back.

[chaos]

Originally Posted by Cantatus

Maybe that explains why Desmond became unhinged while Sayid and the pilot (and presumably Michael) didn't. Perhaps Desmond didn't use the correct bearing to reach the island, but flight 815 and the helicopter did?

I'm pretty sure that Desmond reacted like he did as a side effect of him turning the key and doing the whole purple sky thing. You guys are really reaching with this whole bearing thing.

[Tabris]

Originally Posted by chaos

I'm pretty sure that Desmond reacted like he did as a side effect of him turning the key and doing the whole purple sky thing. You guys are really reaching with this whole bearing thing.

Except that multiple characters have made multiple mentionings of approaching the island and leaving the island only from a specific bearing/heading...

[Talo]

I'm pretty sure the coordinates are necessary to get to and from the island. The Desmond freak-out happened for 2 reasons:

1: The exposure to high levels of magnetism caused some sort of temporal shift with him.

2: The pilot was heading in on the correct coordinates, but was shifted off because of the interference.

If he was completely off course, he probobly could not have been able to leave the territory of the island, much like Desmond couldn't leave in season 2 when he said it is like a snow globe.

Faraday mentions that people exposed to high levels of magnetism can experience problems, and Desmond already had the see the future thing. He was already split in time and needed a constant to resynch.

I think the barrier around the island has multiple time differentials depending on the vector you come in at. The rocket was only 20min off from the point where it arrived, but a body drifting would have come in at another reference point and was shifted 2 days.

[McCheese]

So what's up with Claire? I heard an interesting theory today that I don't think was mentioned here. Basically it says that Claire died when her house was exploded during the commandos' attack, but she and those around her didn't realize it. It wasn't until she saw and talked to Christian that she realized she was dead, and thus left her baby to be taken care of, knowing that she would be unable to do so.

It also explains why Miles was so interested in her when he was walking with her and Sawyer. He's a ghost-whisperer or something so he realized that she was dead before anyone else, even her.

So Claire is dead, but only she, Miles, and Christian Shepherd are aware of that fact at this point.

[Frax]

Originally Posted by Tbird

This episode seemed like a transition from old to new. I enjoyed the scene where Ben Linus and Hurley are sharing a candy bar on the log bench while waiting for Locke outside the cabin. It showed how Ben isn't really the bad guy anymore. Or how Ben said that his time as the "chosen one" are over and now its time for Locke's time to start.

Kate's teeth are starting to bother me though, get her some braces.

Also I want to see more Lt Daniels!

The scene with Ben and Hurley and the candy bar was one of the best this season, not a word was said, but you can always count on Hugo to be friendly with everyone. Too bad the dude is going to go insane!

[Astrocreep]

Originally Posted by Frax

The scene with Ben and Hurley and the candy bar was one of the best this season, not a word was said, but you can always count on Hugo to be friendly with everyone. Too bad the dude is going to go insane!

he already was insane, in fact if the series ended with hurley having imagined the whole thing while he was drooling in a rubber room, i wouldnt be a bit surprised. when they showed Libby at the mental home with him and then just so happens to have a love interest with hurley it started that idea in my head. im probably wrong but they never explained why Libby was there, one of the main reasons i was pissed they killed her character off.

[chaos]

Originally Posted by Tabris

Except that multiple characters have made multiple mentionings of approaching the island and leaving the island only from a specific bearing/heading...

Yes, I understand that, and I think the point is being overthought, with speculation that a crashing plane was somehow on the correct bearing for the island, or that bearing in has some effect on bearing out, or whatever.